scanning entire film frame (35mm/6x6 on v600)

[gnome chompski]

Hello,
Apologies, Im striking out in my searches but am convinced this info exists somewhere here...


I scan 35mm/6x6 negs on my v600. The oem film holder basically slightly crops the negative so I cant get the soft edge of the negative.

Im looking for options that work to scan the entire film frame, such as a glass plate or a different holder, even possibly getting the film type in the scan and the sprocket holes as well. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I use both the epson software as well as vuescan, and occasionally when using vuescan i can adjust the crop so i get the soft edde of the film frame. I'd like a better (easier) solution if it exists.

 

[Vics]

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/models/v600.html

 

[gnome chompski]

Ive seen that. Do you just lay the glass over your negative on the flatbed scanner?

 

[Vics]

I believe the neg is sandwiched between two pieces of glass, then goes down onto the v600 in the normal way. See instructions HERE.

 

[jalLee2001]

It is a very high quality film holder (milled aluminum) with anti newton glass. Highly recommended. I have it and wish it was available for 35 MM as well.

John

 

[gnome chompski]

I hope I am explaining things right. You know when you print in the darkroom, and you would file the negative carrier edges so you could get that border on your print? I want that but cleaner. Is there a way to do this with the AN glass linked above? The problem is the existing Epson carrier, which cuts off a very small portion of the negative, so I dont see using this glass insert as a solution. Am I misunderstanding things?

 

[taemo]

something like this?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747857-REG/Lomography_399_DigitaLIZA_120_Scanning_Mask.html

theres a 35mm version too

 

[gnome chompski]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32681588@N03/24798505950/sizes/l

see how the corners round out a bit? Im looking for a negative carrier that allows for this. The Epson OEM carrier doesnt allow for this, at least very easily. I can manage with Vuescan sometimes.

 

[gnome chompski]

something like this?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747857-REG/Lomography_399_DigitaLIZA_120_Scanning_Mask.html

theres a 35mm version too

ah, yes. Basically that. Dang, not sure if I can stomach buying a Lomography product...😀

Im more interested in scanning everything and then selecting my own crop in Vuescan...

 

[johannielscom]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32681588@N03/24798505950/sizes/l

see how the corners round out a bit? Im looking for a negative carrier that allows for this. The Epson OEM carrier doesnt allow for this, at least very easily. I can manage with Vuescan sometimes.

That's an Olympus Pen-F half frame scan. The Pen-F has rounded edges in the film gate so that's not a result from the scanner or negative holder.

 

[gnome chompski]

Ok bad example. But it still illustrates what I am after. I guess that lomography carrier is the solution.

 

[plummerl]

It would seem that if your wanting to be able to scan the border surrounding the image, you will complicate the job of getting an accurate scan. By including the border, your going to be throwing off the histogram. I know that using ColorPerfect, the author emphasizes that you need to eliminate the border for processing through ColorPerfect.

 

[taemo]

Ok bad example. But it still illustrates what I am after. I guess that lomography carrier is the solution.

i no longer need mine as i use my pakon for scanning 35mm and film holders for my MF.
pm me if you want mine

 

[gnome chompski]

right on Taemo. I will pm you. Thanks.

 

[Moto-Uno]

I have the same Epson V600 scanner and for what it's worth I put the film on the scanner and then place a thin piece of glass over the negative to keep it flat and then scan the negative. You can include as much as you like when the software shows you what you can include in the scan. I've seldom found Newtonian rings in my scans, but frequently simply rescaning removes them. I've made dozens of successful scans this way.
Peter

 

[vbsoto]

Maybe this one, which is for 35mm. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747853-REG/Lomography_398_DigitaLIZA_35mm_Scanning_Mask.html

I have an Epson 4990, which I am able to get the full frame scan from, but not out to the sprocket holes, using the epson film holder and epsonscan.
The trick was to make an adjustment in the options which expanded the prescan width.

 

[vbsoto]

Here is a sample from my setup. Camera was an EOS Elan which doesn't have much rounding at the corners however.

 

[gnome chompski]

thats exactly what I am looking for. Im not interested in this for the hipster film look, more so Im just trying to get the edge of the film frame to be scanned like you have accomplished. I think it makes a pleasant looking border without having to resort to software add-on's. Maybe I should look in the software settings to see if I can fihure out how to adjust the scan area. Thanks