HHPhoto
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HHPhoto
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raid
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Andy Kibber
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HHPhoto
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raid
Dad Photographer
Thank you Andy. It is one of my favorite images.
Andy Kibber
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What era was Agfachrome RS 1000 around? A quick Google search suggests 1990s. Do you have any digitized photos you can share?
My knowledge of high-speed chrome film starts and ends with Fuji Provia 400x. I only shot a few rolls of it, but I found it to be amazing.
raid
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The Agfachrome RS 1000 was much more costly to get than the Scotch Chrome 1000.
HHPhoto
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I used it at the end of the 80s. And yes, it was available into the 90s.
No, unfortunately no scanned samples.
It is indeed:
Perfect at 400.
Almost the same quality at 800 pushed.
Still very good quality at 1600 pushed.
And even a push to 3200 is relatively good and usable.
Fortunately I still have some rolls of it....
.Cheers, Jan
Mark Wood
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There was also Fujichrome P1600D which, I think, had to be push processed to get to ISO 1600, although I never got charged any extra for processing it after exposing it at that rating. (There were boxes on the cassettes to mark the film speed you'd used.) It was grainy but with very good colour. I do however, have vivid memories of opening the baseplate of my M4-P, having forgotten to rewind an exposed roll of it at a music festival. I remember thinking, that's wound on very neatly, whilst swearing! (A handful of pictures from that roll actually did survive.)
Highway 61
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About 1. Yes it is, but Bellamy is the publisher. Nothing important here.
About 2. I don't know which world you live in, yet you seem not to get what offbeat, also called second degree, or second level, is. Under the writer's pen, and in the whole article context, "a little film production company called Ferrania" clearly means : "a well known Italian film production company called Ferrania which would grantly help 3M film dpt. to grow up further". This is more than obvious to me, although English isn't my mother's tongue. The proof is in the "3M AND FERRANIA" paragraph itself if you still need it.
Again, nothing important here, but sometimes a semantics update isn't useless.
Very nice photos Raid, I like the New Orleans' French Quarter ones the most, they remind me the movie Tightrope with Clint Eastwood, especially the first one.
rfaspen
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The sentence was worded intentionally - It was a kind of attempt at humour. It might just be a nuance that English speakers pick up more easily. That happens.
CMur12
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I really liked Agfachrome 1000 back in the day for window-light portraiture.
I never tried Scotch Chrome 1000, but, based on published photos I saw, the Agfa had softer grain and a more pleasant (less yellow) color cast.
- Murray
I never tried Scotch Chrome 1000, but, based on published photos I saw, the Agfa had softer grain and a more pleasant (less yellow) color cast.
- Murray
rfaspen
[insert pithy phrase here]
I had 1 roll of Scotch Chrome 1000. I bought it sometime in late 1980s and just never used it. I think I gave it to another RFF member who was collecting boxes of unusual or defunct film. (sara, haven't seen her on RFF lately) I think I gave her a box of Kodachrome 25, 64, and 200 as well.
Fastest slide film I remember using was Ektachrome 400. Didn't they make an Ektachrome 800 too? I seem to remember such a thing.
Fastest slide film I remember using was Ektachrome 400. Didn't they make an Ektachrome 800 too? I seem to remember such a thing.
HHPhoto
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You are right, of course, there also have been Provia 1600. I had forgotten it in my list.
But as far as I remember, that was a real ISO 1600/33° film (not one which get the speed only with pushing like Delta 3200 and T-Max 3200).
Cheers, Jan
Mooshoepork
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Provia 400X was amazing.
Also, don’t you know though can’t criticise anyone for anything? These articles are just for SEO/for his adsense account
Andy Kibber
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I'm all for fair criticism and discussion. In this thread, I learned about other high-speed chrome films, including another ISO 1000 chrome film.
Does that mean the linked article is riddled with errors and is nothing more than SEO content and dross for fashionable film dilatates? I don't think so. The one possible error pointed out in this thread to date is more of a quibble about whether there were other ISO 1000 chrome films. Which isn't inconsistent with the article:
Obviously some effort went into researching and writing the article. If nothing else, the author went through the trouble of shooting a roll of the film and sharing the results.
HHPhoto
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Well, not really:
"As a result, they produced the world’s fastest daylight-balanced color transparency film in 1983, Scotch Chrome 1000 – a milestone that was never surpassed."
That is simply wrong. That film was surpassed only a little bit later first with Agfachrome RS 1000, then later both of them were surpassed by Fuji's MS 100 / 1000 and Provia 1600 and finally by Provia 400X.
I've read many of the articles of that author and all have had severe deficits. This guy simply has only quite limited film photography knowledge.
And the owner of that webpage Bellamy Hunt is very well known for spreading huge misinformation and fake news:
1. With his own branded "Street Pan" film he said that it was freshly coated film. But the reality was that it was not new production at all, but just selling old, expired left-over Agfa-Gevaert ASP 400S / Aviphot Pan 400 film. At insanely high prices. As this left-over stock is meanwhile depleted, he is now just putting Agfa Aviphot Pan 200 in the boxes, which is the same film as Rollei Superpan 200 / Retro 400S / Infrared. But he wants about double (!!) the price of Superpan 200. That is cheating, a rip-off.
2. He has several time claimed that Fujifilm has stopped film production years ago. That are fake news. Period.
3. He has claimed that Bergger has an own film production. Again fake news. Bergger is just a tiny rebranding/distribution company, with no own production facilities at all. Their Pancro 400 film is made by Inoviscoat in Germany, their papers by Harman technology in England, and their chemistry by two German photo chemistry producers.
Cheers, Jan
KenR
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Caveat emptor
Caveat emptor
Not having a dog in this fight, I would just like to say caveat emptor - let the buyer beware. If your are buying film that is twice the price of the major brands (Kodak, Ilford, Fuji) it should be fresh, twice as good as a film by the big boys or fall into a special niche not available elsewhere. That’s why I stick to products from the big boys from a distributor that I know sells a ton of film, so I know it’s fresh (and even then I have occasionally gotten short dated film).
Caveat emptor
Not having a dog in this fight, I would just like to say caveat emptor - let the buyer beware. If your are buying film that is twice the price of the major brands (Kodak, Ilford, Fuji) it should be fresh, twice as good as a film by the big boys or fall into a special niche not available elsewhere. That’s why I stick to products from the big boys from a distributor that I know sells a ton of film, so I know it’s fresh (and even then I have occasionally gotten short dated film).
Andy Kibber
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We disagree on the meaning of the word surpassed. If I make a 1000 ISO film, and then you make a different 1000 ISO film, your film has matched, not surpassed, my film in speed.
That aside, fair points all around.