Sell Gear to buy a M9? Help

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I realized I accumulated a lot of gears and diverted from photography a lot. I also had issues with G2 so I decided to go back to mechanical system I already have M6. I didn't use much since I bought G2 but after having the issues and the lack of services for those systems I plan to sell most of the gears and have a simple inventory. Also by simplifying I will get some cash so I plan to give a try to M digital system which I avoided mainly due to prices. So I plan to sell following:

Contax G 28mm + 45mm
Contax G2 (after having it fixed by the only service left in Turkey (still he is checking so don't know how much it will cost)
C/Y mount Zeiss 50mm f1.4
Olympus OM4 + 35mm f2
Canon ltm 50mm f1.4

According to my calculations, above will ve enough for a M9 also if I sell my sony nex and ltm elmar f2.8 I can afford for a ZM 50mm f2 (because I loved how 45mm renders, I plan to have similar ZM). So my simplyfied list of equipment will be:

Leica M6 and M9 if I buy
Canon Ltm 50mm f1.2
Leica iiif
Jupiter-12 35mm f2.8
35mm f2.5 color skopar
Zm 50mm planar if I buy
What do you think?
 
Looks like a good plan to me...and those Contax G2 cameras have gone up a lot in price now. Why not the M240 though?
 
jsrockit said:
Looks like a good plan to me...and those Contax G2 cameras have gone up a lot in price now. Why not the M240 though?
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What is the difference? Since never dreamed of digital M, I never followed the technology so I am lame on the digital M series. Also there is M9 at KEH with original sensor for 1800$ aince I came up with this idea. Are all the sensors of M9 prone to corrosion? Would Leica change it for free even though it is second hand?

Edit: checked out the m240, 100g heavier, enough for me to say no. And it is probably more expensive.
 
LeicaFoReVer said:
What is the difference? Since never dreamed of digital M, I never followed the technology so I am lame on the digital M series. Also there is M9 at KEH with original sensor for 1800$ aince I came up with this idea. Are all the sensors of M9 prone to corrosion? Would Leica change it for free even though it is second hand?
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Different style of sensor... more modern sensor with high ISO abilities.

Edit: checked out the m240, 100g heavier, enough for me to say no. And it is probably more expensive.
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Ok.
 
LeicaFoReVer said:
What is the difference? Since never dreamed of digital M, I never followed the technology so I am lame on the digital M series. Also there is M9 at KEH with original sensor for 1800$ aince I came up with this idea. Are all the sensors of M9 prone to corrosion? Would Leica change it for free even though it is second hand?

Edit: checked out the m240, 100g heavier, enough for me to say no. And it is probably more expensive.
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All the original m9 sensors are prone to corrosion. Leica no longer repairs them for free, it is an expensive bill now. If you are looking at M9s get one with an upgraded sensor.

As far as the M240 it should be more responsive, have much better battery life, better higher ISO capabilities and it has liveview and the possibility of using an EVF. That can be useful for checking the RF focus of a lens and also handy if you want to shoot wide or macro. They don't have the sensor problems of the M9.

Cost wise the M240 is around the same price as a sensor replaced M9 at this point.

Shawn
 
Do not buy any of M9 series cameras with original sensor without accommodating of at least 1600 usd for sensor change in near future.
With m9 you will get batteries which will lasts only couple of hours if it is cold.
M240 is heavier for good reason it has much better battery. It is also weather sealed, none of M9 series are.
The only reason I got M-E in 2016 was because it was new, with warranty. Once in a life chance. But. Once I started to use it, corrosion developed within one year and I have to send to Leica which has longest customer service in industry.
Check recent thread about how many M9 needs new sensor. It is not even lottery. It is fact.
Here is no huge difference between M9 with new sensor and better made M240 on used market.
 
I'm always supportive of selling a bunch of gear and consolidating. The less you focus on gear and the more you can focus on shooting the better.

If you have opportunity, see if you can handle an M9 and an M240. The extra bulk might be the difference between taking it with you and leaving it home. Or it might not bother you at all.

Personally as an M9 owner, I wouldn't consider an M240. I like the images from my M9 too much. I've never had an issue with the ISO limitations. I have had sensor issues that Leica has fixed for free which was annoying because I was without my camera for several months. But even so, to me it's about the images. It's the only digital camera I've ever really loved. Images need very little post processing to look the way I want.
 
An M typ 240 is a much better camera than an M9 for many reasons. Most of the weight difference is the bigger, much more robust battery... a major plus. In the hand, I never noticed that it was heavier.

The M typ 240 has a better sensor, is much more responsive, is weather sealed, and has the ability to provide a Live View as well as use an EVF for expanded versatility. Amongst other things.

No M9 with original sensor is a safe purchase: they will all eventually need a new sensor. The 'free replacement' program for M9 sensors ended two years ago; it's now a fairly expensive service call. Only buy an M9 with an upgraded sensor ... They're not a lot cheaper, if cheaper at all, than an M typ 240.

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The film gear you are selling is going up in value, while the M9 (after enjoying a brief moment of higher prices) is falling, falling, and will continue to fall.

I was ecstatic to get someone to trade his Widelux + cash for my M9 last year and have shot more with that camera than I ever did with my M9.

Bad idea, IMO. Long live film!
 
In my opinion, the cheapest and the best digital Leica is Ricoh GXR mount A12, with LCD viewfinder VF-2.

Moreover, you can fully collapse your Leica Elmar-M 5cm f2.8 (rare early version) - do not sell it!




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Personally. I would not buy an original sensor M9 for more than $800USD. The sensor will corrode. You will have to fix it, or toss it. Current service estimate from Leica is about $1600USD. You will need to consider this fact when buying an original-sensor M9.
My personal opinion, of course ;). Others may feel differently....
 
Corran said:
The film gear you are selling is going up in value, while the M9 (after enjoying a brief moment of higher prices) is falling, falling, and will continue to fall.
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While this is true... it is never a bad idea to buy what is better for what you want to accomplish with your photography.
 
Thank you all. I didn't know those facts about M9 sensor. I suppose the the ones with replaced sensor goes above 2000$?
 
dotur said:
In my opinion, the cheapest and the best digital Leica is Ricoh GXR mount A12, with LCD viewfinder VF-2.

Moreover, you can fully collapse your Leica Elmar-M 5cm f2.8 (rare early version) - do not sell it!


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I will think again thanks, however the focus turning while changing aperture makes me use it less. I like the images from it though.
 
jsrockit said:
While this is true... it is never a bad idea to buy what is better for what you want to accomplish with your photography.
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It is current truth. Once Leica will stop supporting film M (it will happen sooner or later) it will become just another mossy fim gear, which is sold for less and less.

Plus, it is anti-photography to treat cameras as "investment".
Cameras are for taking of images, not for sitting on them and watching their prices. And any digital camera including quirky M9 is more convenient and often more reliable than film cameras.

"Do not sell this lens because it is somewhat different from others on exterior" is also questionable. Especially for 50mm lens.
 
LeicaFoReVer said:
I will think again thanks, however the focus turning while changing aperture makes me use it less. I like the images from it though.
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Depending upon how you shoot this is less of an issue on a digital Leica since you are gaining aperture priority metering as well as the potential to use auto ISO so the camera will adjust to your given aperture/shutter speeds.

The Elmar is nice to make the camera more compact when carrying it.

Shawn
 
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