usccharles
Well-known
you think his shirt was actually black? 
Sailor Ted
Well-known
I think if we hit that one a little harder it might get up and trot away.
usccharles
Well-known
Sailor Ted said:
does that mean this picture has already been discussed to death? if so, oops sorry, just noticed it myself
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
The topic itself has been beaten to death. But I've not seen one in leica's own materials - so that's funny.
R
rpsawin
Guest
How is magenta is rendered? Is it just certain black materials that are rendered wrong?
Bob
Bob
R
RML
Guest
rpsawin said:
Non-natural fabrics and dyes (as well as other plastics and paints) tend to show up purple instead of the black we see.
spersky
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Nice,
That is hilarious. Did you read the caption at the bottom. Quality control *on.
Oh the irony. Looks like I am forever destined to use a huge Canon DSLR, until a company with some idea of quality control make a digital RF camera.
That is hilarious. Did you read the caption at the bottom. Quality control *on.
Oh the irony. Looks like I am forever destined to use a huge Canon DSLR, until a company with some idea of quality control make a digital RF camera.
Sailor Ted
Well-known
spersky,
Take a look on flickr for galleries shot on the M8- the IR issue is real however not as pronounced as many would like to believe and very manageable. That it exists at all is due to the nature of technology and DRF camera design, not a lack of QC on Leica's part. That it is somewhat more pronounced then the IR shift on an R-D1 is also due to the state of technology and the fact Leica opted for much higher IQ then the Epson is capable of which in turn is due to Leica's design compromises- compromises that must be made one way or the other.
Sure the IR shift is a compromise but so too is lugging around that huge and heavy Canon or trying to use it for street photography. It's all relative but I'd rather deal with filters.
Take a look on flickr for galleries shot on the M8- the IR issue is real however not as pronounced as many would like to believe and very manageable. That it exists at all is due to the nature of technology and DRF camera design, not a lack of QC on Leica's part. That it is somewhat more pronounced then the IR shift on an R-D1 is also due to the state of technology and the fact Leica opted for much higher IQ then the Epson is capable of which in turn is due to Leica's design compromises- compromises that must be made one way or the other.
Sure the IR shift is a compromise but so too is lugging around that huge and heavy Canon or trying to use it for street photography. It's all relative but I'd rather deal with filters.
visiondr
cyclic iconoclast
Touché!
Ron
Ron
bottley1
only to feel
Just returned from a trip to egypt, and I noticed my black lowepro camera bag was decidedly maroon in bright sunlight, returning to black when behind the protection of the tinted windows of the minibus! If my eyes were seeing maroon, surely the M8 is correctly imaging the colours, and the coach windows were the IR "hot" filter? The problem is therefore obviously with the man-made materials we use? Pure Egyptian cotton anyone?
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
bottley, how was papyrus rendered by the Leica M8?
neelin
Established
>you think his shirt was actually black?
am i totally nuts? how do you get the screen to plop the histogram on the full size picture?
the first question was rhetorical, i already know the answer.
robert
am i totally nuts? how do you get the screen to plop the histogram on the full size picture?
the first question was rhetorical, i already know the answer.
robert
ywenz
Veteran
usccharles said:you think his shirt was actually black?
Don't you know? Magenta is the "in" colour in London..
I really wonder how the pipeline for this ad went.. did the image just go from the field photographer to the web designer ( whom I would assume have no idea of the magenta issue) and thus did not color correct the image for proper display? What a joke of a campaigne..
R
RML
Guest
ywenz said:
Unless, of course, when the shirt isn't black to begin with.
dnk512
Well-known
Goes to show how the expectations change with time (and cost) .
My sony f717 had some similar issues. My lowepro grey bag would record as purple in daylight. Red lips would record blood-red etc. Many noticed, a few complaint, others even liked it. For awhile I even stopped using the camera. Then, I realized that a perfect digital image requires solid post-processing skills.
Now, if only those digicams become as reliable as my film gear...
. My sony f717 had some similar issues. My lowepro grey bag would record as purple in daylight. Red lips would record blood-red etc. Many noticed, a few complaint, others even liked it
. For awhile I even stopped using the camera. Then, I realized that a perfect digital image requires solid post-processing skills. Now, if only those digicams become as reliable as my film gear...
eef
Established
neelin said:>you think his shirt was actually black?
am i totally nuts? how do you get the screen to plop the histogram on the full size picture?
the first question was rhetorical, i already know the answer.
robert
AFAIK it only will show the histogram and a full image with the initial image preview, if you have that selected. Otherwise it only comes up with the other stuff in the 'info' mode. Maybe that will change with new firmware.
Back on the main topic, it is amusing enough for folks who never touched an M8 to grumble about its inadequacies, but to go nuts over the color of a shirt that you have never seen is almost hilarious.
neelin
Established
eef said:
amazing, i guess i'm a chump for not chimping. i always have the monitor turned off (while shooting & chimp later) & therefore have never seen the screen look like this. thanks, one thing to add not that i'm trying it. the other b/w thumbnail dng "feature". if you have the b/w thumbnail in dng mode, this histogram shows on a permanently b/w preview, it does not change to colour.
robert