Slide Duping Problem with Fuji X Cameras

[Dave Jenkins]

I have tried to dupe slides with both my X-H1 and X-T20, using the Nikon ES-1 with extension tubes and also a device from Amazon called the JCC Slide Digitizer. Whenever I try to use either of these, I get a warning in my screen that says TURN CAMERA OFF AND BACK ON AGAIN. When I do, I immediately get the same warning. My lens is the Fujinon 60mm f2.4 macro.

Does anyone have any idea what to do about this? Thanks in advance

 

[skahde]

I guess the additional weight works on the connections between camera and lens or some weak link inside the lens. Try wiggling on the lens without the adapters and see if you can provoke the same behavior.

 

[Tim Murphy]

I have tried to dupe slides with both my X-H1 and X-T20, using the Nikon ES-1 with extension tubes and also a device from Amazon called the JCC Slide Digitizer. Whenever I try to use either of these, I get a warning in my screen that says TURN CAMERA OFF AND BACK ON AGAIN. When I do, I immediately get the same warning. My lens is the Fujinon 60mm f2.4 macro.

Does anyone have any idea what to do about this? Thanks in advance

Dear Dave,

I'm not sure what is happening for you. I've used the JJC adapter with a Nikon 60mm AF-D macro on full frame Nikon DSLR's with no issues. It does require the use of extension tubes to focus though. Are you using them on your Fuji?

I'll freely admit that I know little about Fuji cameras, but is there possibly a setting to "allow a converter or attachment"? I know my Panasonic FZ300 wants me to allow a tele-converter but I never do.

That's all I got!

Regards,

Tim Murphy

Harrisburg PA 🙂

 

[skahde]

I also thought about the issue as I‘m using a Micro-Nikkor for duping too but he uses a genuine Fuji-lens just hanging some gear on its front. As I‘m writing, I think it maybe also possible that the weight is just too much for the lens to focus correctly.

Is that „extension tube“ between lens and body (the 60 mm should not need this) or between lens and duping-attachment (there you certainly need one)?

 

[armadsen]

The Fuji 60mm isn’t a true macro. It only gets to 1:2 reproduction ratio. When I was using mine for scanning film, I did need an extension tube to focus on 35mm (120 was fine without).

I agree that weight on the front of the lens could be a problem.

 

[Tim Murphy]

I also thought about the issue as I‘m using a Micro-Nikkor for duping too but he uses a genuine Fuji-lens just hanging some gear on its front. As I‘m writing, I think it maybe also possible that the weight is just too much for the lens to focus correctly.

Is that „extension tube“ between lens and body (the 60 mm should not need this) or between lens and duping-attachment (there you certainly need one)?

Dear skahde,

That's a good point about the tubes. I'll admit that I wasn't clear about them and using the term extension tube is probably not accurate.

As I understand extension tubes they go between the lens and the camera body.

Using the JJC duplicator the tubes are merely threaded cylinders of varying lengths and they go between the front filter threads of the lens you are using and the slide or film holder adapter. They increase the focal distance from the film plane/sensor of the copying camera to get the negative or slide being copied to fall within the MFD of the macro lens.

Regards,

Tim Murphy

Harrisburg PA 🙂

 

[splitimageview]

Usually that error is due to some obstruction preventing the auto focus motors from moving, so make sure the camera is in manual focus mode. If that isn't the issue then try cleaning the electrical contacts on the lens and camera body using a microfiber cloth.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

My thanks to all who offered advice. I had hoped to simplify the slide duping process by using a device that would allow me to simply insert a slide, point the device at a light source, focus, and snap away. Unfortunately, neither would work with my Fuji macro lens. It just kept hunting for focus like a hound dog with a cold in its nose.

However, the Fuji macro lens will autofocus at 1/1 with 10mm of extension. I can do the same with my old Olympus OM 50mm f3.5 macro lens with 26mm of extension, but of course, autofocus is better when it works. In any case, I will need to set up a copy stand arrangement. I made hundreds of dupe slides back in film days. I wish I had kept my old copy stand and light source when we moved to smaller quarters a few years ago.

 

[skahde]

The OM-Macro will work with a bit of extension. You do not need a copy-stand or a special light-source, though. For a long time I just put a manual flash on the camera and let it shine onto a sheet of paper in front of me where I pointed the camera at. TTL doesn't work too well but an old manual flash will. Adjust the amount of light according to the histogram with additional paper directly in front of the flash to reduce the output reaching the slide. Much easier to setup and put aside than a copy-stand which counts to me.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

I have an excellent Bogen tripod and have done the reversed center column thing, but I find it much less convenient than a copy stand. I may not have any choice, though. My best bet is to find an old enlarger somewhere and remove the head.

 

[skahde]

I used tripod/lighttable and later went on to just shoot without any tripod. As the slide/negative are connected to the camera on one single tube, shake is no issue even with longer exposures and especially with flash as the lightsource.

 

[splitimageview]

Did you determine what was triggering the notice?

 

[Dave Jenkins]

I used tripod/lighttable and later went on to just shoot without any tripod. As the slide/negative are connected to the camera on one single tube, shake is no issue even with longer exposures and especially with flash as the lightsource.

So how are you connecting the camera and slide on a single tube? That's what I've been trying to do, with no success with any of the devices I've tried.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

Did you determine what was triggering the notice?

No, still haven't figured it out.

 

[Zuiko-logist]

Is it worth covering up any exposed contacts with paper or similar? This is usually a problem on Pentax bodies and metal adaptors.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

Is it worth covering up any exposed contacts with paper or similar? This is usually a problem on Pentax bodies and metal adaptors.

The extension tubes work just fine. Whatever the problem is, it apparently isn't them.

 

[Zuiko-logist]

Does it work with the kens pointed up vertically. If not, then it is unlikely to be the weight of the lens?

 

[besk]

I have an excellent Bogen tripod and have done the reversed center column thing, but I find it much less convenient than a copy stand. I may not have any choice, though. My best bet is to find an old enlarger somewhere and remove the head.

I use an old Federal enlarger with the enlarger removed for copying larger than 35mm. It is easy to remove the column for storage.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

Does it work with the kens pointed up vertically. If not, then it is unlikely to be the weight of the lens?

Yes, it will do that with both extension tubes in place.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

I use an old Federal enlarger with the enlarger removed for copying larger than 35mm. It is easy to remove the column for storage.

If I can find one!!!