Slide Film, A CALL TO ARMS! : SHOOT IT OR IT WILL DIE

thegman said:
I don't know if the colours are wrong or not, as I was not there, but I will say that I shoot slide film because the colours look good, not necessarily correct.
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That's an important point. We would have fewer choices, aside from film speed, if we all aimed for accurate colors. Brands and types of slide film differ in color accuracy. We may shoot one film in one situation and another in a different situation simply because we like the look, if not the accuracy. This is "art" not science. We are trying to make photos that please us, and we hope please others.
 
joeswe said:
please define: "wrong"?
:D


definewrong von eames68 auf Flickr
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... see above :D

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I'm just a slave to reality, sorry
 
Sparrow said:
... see above :D

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I'm just a slave to reality, sorry
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If you were a slave to reality, then you would not shoot black and white. In any case, I really like the crazy colours of slide film. I'm not an artist, but I get the phrase "artists lie to tell the truth", the vivid colours of slide film are not the truth, but they represent what we want the truth to be. Much like black and white grainy film, nowhere near the truth, but by taking away the the colour, many feel the truth shows though. It's the same thing, IMHO.
 
Sadly, I've accepted the fact that shooting E6 is not viable for me any longer. Nobody locally develops it, shipping it out isn't cost effective, and my local camera store cannot order me the Kodak E6 development kit anymore.

Over the last two weeks I've sold off all my E6 film and I had some great stuff I was hoarding for a while. I had some Kodak E100VS in 120 and 4x5 I was saving for a rainy day. I'm especially sad I had to sell off my 20 unshot rolls of Velvia 50 in 120 that I had been holding onto since before it was temporarily discontinued a few years back.

I do have a roll of Fortia that I refuse to let go of though!
 
Hi Everyone, I have dropped out for a short while from film.
What do I need as fare as simple equipment/ chemical set up to home cook some E-6 the simplest way possible? Im gonna shoot Velvia.
I need a quick ramp up, get it going NOW, kinda scenario so i can figure costs. I want to jump on this before its too late. Sorry I couldn't sift throught this fine thread, but maybe some can point me to a succinct post number that I could reference.

nivek7
 
I'm joining late this thread, which took me a long time to read, english being not my native language, sorry. Until a couple of years ago I had a infinite faith in slide films, mainly Provia F. I was producing, as amateur slide shows with three projector sincronized sound etc. But now I stop to use slide film, still have a few in my fridge.
Films in Italy are now very expensive, development is very expensive and takes a long time (around three week at the best). But what is worse the development quality is very bad. Wrong colors, dust on slides, scratches. Because of my LOVE for slides I will shoot sometimes a film, trying to keep it alive, but I'm sorry to say it is no more my main process. I hope and wish you all that anywhere else it is better and that the E6 can survive. Ciao and thanks for this thread.
robert
 
i have shot this year almost exclusivly with slide film... thats about 50 rolls of provia 400x.
i love to experiment with that film, but wish i could scan with better quality.
the most annoying thing in shooting with slidefilm is to look at the slide or projection and then see the scan :)

on my website all the pictures are made with provia 400x: http://pharoldo.com

i think when this film will pass away (realy dont want this to happen), i will have to move definitiv to digital...



(realy sorry for my english)
 
robert blu said:
I'm joining late this thread, which took me a long time to read, english being not my native language, sorry. Until a couple of years ago I had a infinite faith in slide films, mainly Provia F. I was producing, as amateur slide shows with three projector sincronized sound etc. But now I stop to use slide film, still have a few in my fridge.
Films in Italy are now very expensive, development is very expensive and takes a long time (around three week at the best). But what is worse the development quality is very bad. Wrong colors, dust on slides, scratches. Because of my LOVE for slides I will shoot sometimes a film, trying to keep it alive, but I'm sorry to say it is no more my main process. I hope and wish you all that anywhere else it is better and that the E6 can survive. Ciao and thanks for this thread.
robert
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Hi Robert,

sorry to here about the difficult situation in Italy.
Two suggestions:
One: To save costs, try to get some Agfaphoto Precisa CT 100 ("Made in Japan"). It is repacked Provia F and can be had for 3 Euros something a roll in Germany. Maybe it is availabe locally in Italy or you can order it here or here.
Two: Send your films to Eurocolor Gera (= big Fujifilm lab) in Gera/Germany. A 35mm slide film development costs 2,95 Euro, 120 film is 4,00 Euro. Quality is excellent, no problems with color shifts, scratches or dust. Service people are also very friendly and helpful there. It is very simple, you just send them the films together with a short note stating your address and whether you would like the slides mounted or not mounted. They are very quick and reliable, usual turn around time is 2 business days (plus shipping). They return the film with an invoice and you can pay by bank transfer. I can ring them tomorrow and ask if they will accept orders from abroad (Italy).
John
 
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nivek 7 said:
Hi Everyone, I have dropped out for a short while from film.
What do I need as fare as simple equipment/ chemical set up to home cook some E-6 the simplest way possible? Im gonna shoot Velvia.
I need a quick ramp up, get it going NOW, kinda scenario so i can figure costs. I want to jump on this before its too late. Sorry I couldn't sift throught this fine thread, but maybe some can point me to a succinct post number that I could reference.

nivek7
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http://www.freestylephoto.biz/c1002-Color-Chemicals-Color-Slide
I dunno if you have any film developing equipment already but a cheap Paterson system will do.
 
joeswe said:
Hi Robert,

sorry to here about the difficult situation in Italy.
Two suggestions:
One: To save costs, try to get some Agfaphoto precisia CT 100 ("Made in Japan"). It is repacked Provia F and can be had for 3 Euros something a roll in Germany. Maybe it is availabe locally in Italy or you can order it here or here.
Two: Send your films to Eurocolor Gera (= big Fujifilm lab) in Gera/Germany. A 35mm slide film development costs 2,95 Euro, 120 film is 4,00 Euro. Quality is excellent, no problems with color shifts, scratches or dust. Service people are also very friendly and helpful there. It is very simple, you just send them the films together with a short note stating your address and whether you would like the slides mounted or not mounted. They are very quick and reliable, usual turn around time is 2 business days (plus shipping). They return the film with an invoice and you can pay by bank transfer. I can ring them tomorrow and ask if they will accept orders from abroad (Italy).
John
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Now THAT is what I call keeping with the spirit of this thread!
 
Okay, this is a follow-up to my previous post regarding E6 development at Eurocolor (Fuji) in Gera/Germany. I just talked to them on the phone and they told me that itis no problem at all to send in your films from Italy or other EU countries. Send your films as a letter preferably (quicker). Only if you have larger numbers of rolls that don't fit a letter envelope it is advisable to use small parcel or parcel service. Developed films (unmounted) will be returned as letter, of course, which makes shipping relatively quick and cheap. As I have written above, add a note with your full return address, that's basically all that is needed. You will receive a proper invoice together with the film and make payment by bank transfer.

PO box address for letters (single films or whatever fits in a letter sized envelope):
Eurocolor Gera GmbH
Postfach 1312
07503 Gera
GERMANY

For small parcels/parcels use:
Eurocolor Gera GmbH
Heinrich-Hertz-Str. 9
07552 Gera
GERMANY

Cost is 2,95 EUR per 35mm film and 3,95 EUR for a roll of 120. An Index CD (35mm only) is additional 3,50 EUR. Add actual shipping costs (unless it's a truck load full of film, usually XL letter, in Germany 1,45 EUR, EU zone 3,45 EUR).
If you have any further question or need any assistance, don't hesitate to contact me via PM.
John
 
joeswe said:
Hi Robert,

sorry to here about the difficult situation in Italy.
Two suggestions:
One: To save costs, try to get some Agfaphoto precisia CT 100 ("Made in Japan"). It is repacked Provia F and can be had for 3 Euros something a roll in Germany. Maybe it is availabe locally in Italy or you can order it here or here.
Two: Send your films to Eurocolor Gera (= big Fujifilm lab) in Gera/Germany. A 35mm slide film development costs 2,95 Euro, 120 film is 4,00 Euro. Quality is excellent, no problems with color shifts, scratches or dust. Service people are also very friendly and helpful there. It is very simple, you just send them the films together with a short note stating your address and whether you would like the slides mounted or not mounted. They are very quick and reliable, usual turn around time is 2 business days (plus shipping). They return the film with an invoice and you can pay by bank transfer. I can ring them tomorrow and ask if they will accept orders from abroad (Italy).
John
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Thanks John for your appreciated suggestion. I'actually on holiday in Austria (first time shooting only negative color!) and when back in Italy for sure I'll try a couple of the Provia I still have in my fridge and try to sent to the address you suggest. Grazie, ciao.
robert
 
Just had 3 rolls of 120 back from the lab. The Ektachrome 100VS looks as luscious as ever, and the Provia 100F came out looking a lot better than I expected! As someone here suggested, I shot with an 81A and/or 81C warming filter, and it did wonders. I might actually want to use it as an Elitechrome replacement.

My strategy now will be to primarily shoot with what is still being produced (Fuji), and save my remaining pro-packs of Ektachrome for when I really want it to count. Though, I have little doubt Velvia 50 and 100 will satisfy:D
 
I do hate to be the bearer of bad news, but ...

Fujifilm discontinues two professional films

Fuji is dropping Velvia 100F in 135, 120, and 4x5, and Velvia 50 in 4x5 and 8x10. This is in Great Britain. No announcement yet in the US that I've seen, but it can't be long in coming.

Last shipment will be in December 2012. Time to stock up if you like these film/format combinations.
 
So, where do you folks like to mail out your slide film when you want development+scans?

I know Dwayne's is fairly reasonable, but I prefer plastic mounts. NCPS is a little too expensive for my budget, as is the surcharge at Precision Camera. I like to get at least 8-10 mp equivalent scans if possible. Any other ideas?
 
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