chipgreenberg
Well-known
Bill I was a still life shooter and still work that way. Almost everything is on a tripod. Careful framing, focus, etc.
There was a thread a bit back that I was too busy to jump in. The OP didn't like the results he was getting and asked if he could learn to produce better images.
Sounds a bit flippant, but I was going to say, Don't push the button unless you think it's going to be a good image. I edit before I shoot. If a scene looks interesting I previsualize it. If I'm still interested I look through the camera. By the time I commit to putting the camera on the tripod I almost always know I have something I like.
Chip
There was a thread a bit back that I was too busy to jump in. The OP didn't like the results he was getting and asked if he could learn to produce better images.
Sounds a bit flippant, but I was going to say, Don't push the button unless you think it's going to be a good image. I edit before I shoot. If a scene looks interesting I previsualize it. If I'm still interested I look through the camera. By the time I commit to putting the camera on the tripod I almost always know I have something I like.
Chip
Chuck Albertson
Well-known
My shooting habits were baked in when I was an impecunious student, and a roll of Tri-X (at $1.50 a roll) was a significant expense. With digital cameras, cost isn't a real consideration, but the time I would need to wade through a mass of similar photos is.
Timmyjoe
Veteran
Well that didn't work. Brought the 4x5 camera and didn't shoot a frame with it. Had a Leica M4 and got so busy running around, whenever I got to take a picture for myself, it was just so much easier grabbing the M4. I feel like an addict sometimes, slowing down seems like detox.
Will try again next time. I do want to spend more time with those Sam Abell concepts, especially now that I read something similar coming from an old Mary Ellen Mark class.
Best,
-Tim
Will try again next time. I do want to spend more time with those Sam Abell concepts, especially now that I read something similar coming from an old Mary Ellen Mark class.
Best,
-Tim
airfrogusmc
Veteran
I never shoot FPS. I work hard at seeing in the moment and capturing what i see in the moment. I love the free form, jazz like shooting of working in the moment. With a lot of practice you can, as Bresson called it(developed instinct), develop an instinct. it takes a lot of time watching and sometimes waiting for the elements to come together and it usually happens in a fraction of a second. I find that extremely exciting, satisfying when I am successful, and very frustrating because it is so difficult all at the same time.
In college I worked with large format a lot and had 2 semesters of the zone system. Spent half of the first semester just doing the tests. I did really enjoy that as well and maybe after retiring and moving to some remote location in New Mexico I might buy a view camera (8X10 Deardorff) and do that again but for now in the area I live in the streets are my subject and finding the moment is my motivation.
In college I worked with large format a lot and had 2 semesters of the zone system. Spent half of the first semester just doing the tests. I did really enjoy that as well and maybe after retiring and moving to some remote location in New Mexico I might buy a view camera (8X10 Deardorff) and do that again but for now in the area I live in the streets are my subject and finding the moment is my motivation.
Ronald M
Veteran
The reason why I can't get along with digital photography: I walk around with my Fuji X-T3, take tons of photos, but when I get home I need to download and review hundreds & hundreds of files! What was supposed to be fun is real "assembly belt" work all of a sudden.
Better experience: I see an amazing landscape/tree ..., set up my Mamiya RZ67 on the trip wait for better light, wait longer for even better light, wait longer for the perfect light, and then I press the shutter once: CLUNK, followed by an eve louder THUMP when I advance the film. One frame only and I'm in photography heaven!![]()
Two frames of 4x5 sheet film. Digital, shoot, chimp, probably one more even if exposure correct.
For some things, I now expose as much as I can before "blinkies" Then back off. Very few of my images require this. Also HDR. Do a city scene, then wait 45 minutes keeping people from tripping on your tripod. Then make a frame for the lights.
Pain in the ----, but results outstanding. Nobody knows it is HDR if you do it right.
BillBingham2
Registered User
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There is also a story, I think, about Ansel going up the mountain with only 12 exposures and only getting the shot he wanted with the 12th. I remember Szarkowski commenting, "He never made that mistake again." i.e. only bringing twelve sheets.
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My impression of Ansel was that he was about lighting and clouds in addition to the main subject. I'm betting that a couple of the earlier ones were good too, but the last was the best.
While I try to get the best shot first, sometimes walking by a bit causes me to take a second or third shot. Often when I am editing about 80% of the time if I keep any, it's the first one. But that 20% are usually MUCH better.
B2 (;->
BillBingham2
Registered User
Probably some 15 or so years ago I was at a professional portfolio review talking to an agent. There was a photographer taking pictures for who knows what and he was behind me. Rattattatt, rattatt, rattattattattatt... Finally I turned around and said "maybe take just one good one?" which cracked the agent up to no end. That sums up what I think...
It all depends on how you make photographs. Some people make them on purpose and some people make them on accident.
Are you implying that if you shoot a lot, you only get good photos by accident?
Read what I wrote. It is pretty clear.
You cracked a so-so joke at the expense of someone you will never meet. You had no idea of who he was shooting, could be a dog, a child, probably not a bunch of flowers. When you are anticipating an expression, a movement, a change that you believe will yield what you are looking for sometimes I use a lot more frames than I prefer. Given that I want the shot that I want, even with film, I'd err on the side of spending a bit more money.
B2 (;->
icebear
Veteran
I never use continous mode ... other than by accident, darn switch on the MM
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And an all manual camera, manual aperture, manual focus slows you down anyway.
I see, frame, compose and typically take three shots from different angles, often the third one is the best.
I'm not a firefighter, I don't spray.
I'm not in church, so I don't pray either.:angel:
And an all manual camera, manual aperture, manual focus slows you down anyway.
I see, frame, compose and typically take three shots from different angles, often the third one is the best.
I'm not a firefighter, I don't spray.
I'm not in church, so I don't pray either.:angel:
Bill Clark
Veteran
This is with digital capture.
With wedding group photos I would make three or four of each just in case I need to move heads from one to another using Photoshop.
Otherwise with digital, same as film. I didn’t need nor liked to use the machine gun approach!
Smiles!
With wedding group photos I would make three or four of each just in case I need to move heads from one to another using Photoshop.
Otherwise with digital, same as film. I didn’t need nor liked to use the machine gun approach!
Smiles!
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