So i just kinda bought a Rolleiflex....

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So I was prowling eBay and threw in a low offer on a Rolleiflex T and low and behold it's mine!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160516103607

I kinda swore off film about 2 weeks ago but ya know, I've got a local pro lab that will develop and scan C-41 for $9/roll and B&W for $11/roll, I print everything on my Epson 2880 now and I won't be shooting that much of it so I figured what the hell.....
 
Eleven bucks a roll? Spend a very small multiple of that and set up to do your own black and white developing! Takes up no space, and puts you in the driver's seat! Try it! You'll like it!
Congratulations on a good deal on your Rollei!
 
Enjoy - it is a great machine. I loved mine. I found it very nice for travel (as long as one lens was enough). The lens around f/4 is great for portraits and stopped down to some f/8 delivers very good detail.

$9/$11 per for development and scan is good price to me as long as the scans are usable. Home BW developing makes fun though 🙂
 
Congrats on your Rollei!
+1 on comments above to develop your own too
Still can't decide if I prefer FP4 or Tmax, but do recommend either.

Cheers,
Rob
 
Thanks guys! I do have the stuff to develop myself and I don't mind that, but I detest scanning smaller formats. It's worth the $9 to me to have the scanning done. I'll scan 4x5 because that's easy to deal with and I don't shoot that much but I know if I have to scan it I won't use it.

Besides in the grand scheme of things I spend about that much a day on coffee so I'll just cut back the a trip or two to Starbucks and I'm not out any more than I am now 🙂
 
Mike: It is not a very expensive "Rolls Royce".
I took out my 2.8D last weekend to take three rolls from the tenth floor of a building on Pensacola Beach.
 
Congrats! A Rolleiflex TLR is The Rolls Royce of fim cameras.

I own a Yashica Mat 124 (not "G", so the "previous to the last" version) and I really like that camera: smooth, silent, ... Is the Rolleflex so much better that I should have a look for one (never had one in my hands) ?

Stefan.
 
I own a Yashica Mat 124 (not "G", so the "previous to the last" version) and I really like that camera: smooth, silent, ... Is the Rolleflex so much better that I should have a look for one (never had one in my hands) ?

Stefan.

I have a Yashica Mat (first version, not the 124 though) and a Rolleicord III (not a 'flex) and my view is this:

Both cameras, were I to sell them, are worth approximately the same. Both have a Tessar copy lens (Xenar for the 'cord, Yashinon for the Yashica) and I would find it pretty much impossible to tell which camera had taken a photo just by looking at the results (this is a good thing as they're both equally excellent).

The differences are in the handling and the build.

The Yashica Mat is better featured with lever winding, a self cocking shutter and - most importantly to me - an interlock. The displays of chosen aperture/shutter speed are easier to read and I find the screen a delight compared to that of the Rollei (helped by having a f/2.8 viewing lens compared to the Rollei's f/3.2). I have a Rollei Grid fresnel screen fitted to my 'cord but it's still much darker than the Yashica. Overall the Yashica just feels faster and more intuitive to use.

The Rollei on the other hand just gives the impression of being better built. It has a certain solidity to it that you can only really appreciate when you hold it, but it's an item that just begs to be used and puts a smile on my face every time I pick it up. Small details such as the lock on the film door and the ease with which the spool holders snap into place mark it out as a well engineered tool, with lots of thought put into its design.

As I said at the start, the actual results are pretty much identical but the Yashica gets more use from me simply because of the extra features (I've never yet shot a roll with the Rollei that hasn't had at least one unintentional double exposure - I'm clumsy and forgetful so I need all the help the camera can give me). I've never owned a Rolleiflex myself but as far as I can see it combines all the features of the Yashica Mat with the build of the Rolleicord - in other words it should be the perfect camera. I think Rolls Royce is a pretty good analogy. 🙂
 
Oh, the rolleis are wonderful... Shot with a loaner Yashica in college, then a decade later got my hands on a clean 3.5E... Really a pleasure to shoot with. Built phenomenally, unobtrusive to use, and effectively silent. I've found, too, that traveling with it is great, as everyone wants their picture taken with the 'antique.'
 
I own a Yashica Mat 124 (not "G", so the "previous to the last" version) and I really like that camera: smooth, silent, ... Is the Rolleflex so much better that I should have a look for one (never had one in my hands) ?

Stefan.

Hi Stefan,
The Mat 124 is a well built TLR with a very good lens.
The Rollei is an extremely well built camera with an excellent lens.

Only you can tell whether you really "need" a Rollei or not.
I "needed" five Rolleis!
 
I have a Yashica Mat (first version, not the 124 though) and a Rolleicord III (not a 'flex) and my view is this:

Both cameras, were I to sell them, are worth approximately the same. Both have a Tessar copy lens (Xenar for the 'cord, Yashinon for the Yashica) and I would find it pretty much impossible to tell which camera had taken a photo just by looking at the results (this is a good thing as they're both equally excellent).

The differences are in the handling and the build.

The Yashica Mat is better featured with lever winding, a self cocking shutter and - most importantly to me - an interlock. The displays of chosen aperture/shutter speed are easier to read and I find the screen a delight compared to that of the Rollei (helped by having a f/2.8 viewing lens compared to the Rollei's f/3.2). I have a Rollei Grid fresnel screen fitted to my 'cord but it's still much darker than the Yashica. Overall the Yashica just feels faster and more intuitive to use.

The Rollei on the other hand just gives the impression of being better built. It has a certain solidity to it that you can only really appreciate when you hold it, but it's an item that just begs to be used and puts a smile on my face every time I pick it up. Small details such as the lock on the film door and the ease with which the spool holders snap into place mark it out as a well engineered tool, with lots of thought put into its design.

As I said at the start, the actual results are pretty much identical but the Yashica gets more use from me simply because of the extra features (I've never yet shot a roll with the Rollei that hasn't had at least one unintentional double exposure - I'm clumsy and forgetful so I need all the help the camera can give me). I've never owned a Rolleiflex myself but as far as I can see it combines all the features of the Yashica Mat with the build of the Rolleicord - in other words it should be the perfect camera. I think Rolls Royce is a pretty good analogy. 🙂


A Rolleiflex is not a Rolleicord. A Planar is not a Tessar, and a Xenotar is not a Xenar. They are quite apart in performance wide open. Closed own, all are very sharp lenses.

I believe that a Rolleiflex is better built than a Mat 124, and it does have a better lens than a Mat 124. It has a lock in film advance, and it has a film advance lever.
 
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I own a Yashica Mat 124 (not "G", so the "previous to the last" version) and I really like that camera: smooth, silent, ... Is the Rolleflex so much better that I should have a look for one (never had one in my hands) ?

Stefan.

I have a Yashica 24 and a Rolleiflex 2.8E. They are both fine TLR cameras. The engineering, craftsmanship, and materials that went into the construction of the Rolleiflex are significantly superior to those of the Yashica, though. It is easy to tell the Yashica is a lower-cost copy of the Rollei.

Some differences between the two cameras:

The foam light seals on my Yashica have degraded around the door and between the hood and the nameplate. The Rolleiflex does not use foam or fiber light seals; the door forms light traps when closed.

The Rolleiflex automatically sets the film for frame 1, whereas the Yashica requires lining up the arrows on the film with arrows on the the camera body. This is not really a big deal, but is a difference between the two.

The door on the Rolleiflex is easily removeable, but is not on the Yashica.

The hinge for the door is held in place on either side by metal plates on both cameras. The metal is much thicker on the Rolleiflex. It appears to be just stamped metal on the Yashica, and not nearly as sturdy. One of the plates is bent on my Yashica.

In the chamber between the taking lens and the film, the Rolleiflex has baffles and a black, light absorbing rough-textured surface. The Yashica chamber is painted black with what appears to be low-gloss paint, and part of the chamber is angled such that it can reflect light back onto the film. That somewhat reflective chamber surface in the Yashica causes flare when a bright light is in or near the edge of the frame. Putting a black flocking on the Yashica's chamber walls helps get rid of the flare, according to before-and-after pictures I've seen on flickr.

Mounting the Rolleiflex on a tripod is much easier, and more secure, when using a Rolleifix attachment. The Yashica has no provision for such an attachment.

The Rolleiflex 2.8E has a lock that ties the Shutter Speed and Aperture adjustment knobs together, so that it is easy to keep a constant Exposure Value while adjusting either. The lock can be unlocked. The Yashica 24 does not have this feature. Also, the Rolleiflex has an Exposure Value indicator, which the Yashica does not.

The Depth-of-Field indicator on the 2.8E is out of this world. It is my favorite feature on the camera. I won't try to describe it in words, but will just say that setting hyperfocal focus is as easy as pie with the way it works.

When using the Sportsfinder, the Rolleiflex has a mirror and lens that allows critical focusing on the ground glass. The Yashica does not have this feature.

The Yashica 24 takes 220 roll film, as well as 120. My Rolleiflex only takes 120.

The light meter for the Yashica requires a battery. The Rolleiflex meter does not.

The light meter on my Yashica no longer works. I had to have the meter adjustment knob fixed on the 2.8E, since it broke shortly after I acquired the camera, but now the meter appears to work fine.

The Yashica has a cold shoe, but the Rolleiflex doesn't.

The Yashica's focusing screen is superior to the original focusing screen that was on the Rolleiflex. I had Harry Fleenor put a Maxwell focusing screen on the 2.8E, and now they are roughly equivalent. I really like the red grid-lines on the Yashica's screen.

The major difference was what I paid for the cameras, though. The Rolleiflex cost much more than the Yashica, so I tend to be more comfortable using the Yashica (not worried as much about destroying its value).

There may be some other differences, but overall I really enjoy both cameras. If you've got a good copy of the Yashica, my recommendation is to keep it and take lots of pictures. It's a fine camera.
 
Just an update:

The camera arrived today and I wish I was happier about it.

The description was:

"Excellent Condition, fully functional Rolleiflex T "

The Fstop/EV/Shutter Speed indicator rings are FUBAR and don't couple uncouple properly and every shutter speed runs at about 3 seconds.

The auction also listed the location as the Czech Republic but the return address on the box was from Ukraine.

Sigh.....

The upside is that I ran a roll of film through it so I have something to practice loading 120 reels with....
 
Thats too bad, always a drag to be happy about a purchase which turns out to be bad-
but the seller offers a 10 day return. If you have payed by paypal you should get your money back.
 
Thats too bad, always a drag to be happy about a purchase which turns out to be bad-
but the seller offers a 10 day return. If you have payed by paypal you should get your money back.

Yes, simply list the reason (item not as described/not working) for requesting a refund. You will be out the cost of return shipping usually.
 
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