Graham Line
Well-known
Backgrounds are beyond wierd, with that double-line effect. Saves me $600. Looked at Tom A.'s pictures but he's shooting b&w and in a different style -- it isn't apparent there.
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haagen_dazs
Well-known
the bokeh looks jarring to my eyes ><"
RuedigerMerz
Member
I thought about getting one to compare it to my 35 Lux ASPH, but this Bokeh looks awful. I rather buy some film.
nksyoon
Well-known
When I have more time I intend to do some comparisons with the Nokton 1.2 and Hexanon 35/2.
RuedigerMerz
Member
Thanks Nick, this is very appreciated.
Rudy
Rudy
Tuolumne
Veteran
What is the "double-line" bokeh people are referring to? I can see the out of focus areas are kind of jarring, but I don't see any "double lines".
/T
/T
photogdave
Shops local
Let's see some examples at f/2!!
sauerwald
Member
I just received mine (an SC) this morning, so I haven't yet developed any images from it.
Initial impressions of build quality etc are good. I shoot mostly larger formats, and recently bought a 35mm rangefinder as something that I can carry with me on business trips - I can drop the camera in a briefcase, something that I can't do with my LF gear!
Observations:
1) The front element looks a bit strange - it looks very flat compared to what I would have expected for a 35mm
2) The text on the front has an S dot C in blue - not sure why it wasn't just SC or S.C.
3) I am quite happy about the size of the package that the R2M and 35f1.4 make - it is small and compact, and should be fairly versatile.
4) I am still new to rangefinders, but I find it strange that the lens/hood blocks about 25% of the image in the viewfinder. Vents make it slightly less bad.
5) I have a strongly dominant left eye, which means that I generally focus with my left hand as well. It could just be that I am not used to it, but I find the little thingy attached to the focus ring to be not-the-most-comfortable. I would have preferred a knurled ring, or little ears like the aperture ring has.
Initial impressions of build quality etc are good. I shoot mostly larger formats, and recently bought a 35mm rangefinder as something that I can carry with me on business trips - I can drop the camera in a briefcase, something that I can't do with my LF gear!
Observations:
1) The front element looks a bit strange - it looks very flat compared to what I would have expected for a 35mm
2) The text on the front has an S dot C in blue - not sure why it wasn't just SC or S.C.
3) I am quite happy about the size of the package that the R2M and 35f1.4 make - it is small and compact, and should be fairly versatile.
4) I am still new to rangefinders, but I find it strange that the lens/hood blocks about 25% of the image in the viewfinder. Vents make it slightly less bad.
5) I have a strongly dominant left eye, which means that I generally focus with my left hand as well. It could just be that I am not used to it, but I find the little thingy attached to the focus ring to be not-the-most-comfortable. I would have preferred a knurled ring, or little ears like the aperture ring has.
Ororaro
Well-known
From super smooth Boke lenses, I've come to like all kinds of Boke. Harsh Boke sometimes can add great impact and feel to an image. Harsh Boke isn't necessarily bad.
Think outside of the box.
Think outside of the box.
Graham Line
Well-known
Take a look at the photo up in the thread of the signpost with a high-rise building in the background. The foreground is very pleasantly rendered; the background looks like the camera moved. These are simply characteristics of the lens, they are neither wrong nor right. This photo is an extreme case, of a normal daylight shutter speed and a very wide opening. If you look at Tom A's set on Flickr, these things don't appear because his style of shooting is different.Tuolumne said:What is the "double-line" bokeh people are referring to? I can see the out of focus areas are kind of jarring, but I don't see any "double lines".
/T
RuedigerMerz
Member
NB23 said:From super smooth Boke lenses, I've come to like all kinds of Boke. Harsh Boke sometimes can add great impact and feel to an image. Harsh Boke isn't necessarily bad.
Think outside of the box.
Nenad,
IMO, this has nothing to do with 'out of a box' thinking. Bokeh is a personal thing. Wether you like it or not. You may like harsh Bokeh. I don't.
Rudy
P.S. Great interview in the LFI.
tbarker13
shooter of stuff
Just opened mine up last night. I like what I've seen so far. I'm going to run it through a comparison with my 35 nokton 1.2 as soon as I have some free time during daylight hours.
Hates_
Established
I've posted my samples here: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=763876&postcount=559
wintoid
Back to film
Hates_ said:I've posted my samples here: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=763876&postcount=559
Is that my old Bessa R2a?
kipkeston
Well-known
I like the double line look, it's interesting
RIVI1969
Established
I was about to sell my 35mm 2.5 PII but after seen these pics I think I will hold my horses... The ghosty bokeh in most of those actually makes me fell dizzy and it takes a lot from the foreground subjects. I wish we could see some examples at different apertures.
Hates_
Established
Hahaha! Yeswintoid said:Is that my old Bessa R2a?![]()
tbarker13
shooter of stuff
I've seen a couple images with this lens that I don't like (in terms of bokeh). But they appear (at least to me) to be the sorts of situations that would seldom occur, at least during the course of my shooting. There are certain types of backgrounds (foilage, for example) that challenge most lenses in this arena.
back alley
IMAGES
Joe Brugger said:Take a look at the photo up in the thread of the signpost with a high-rise building in the background. The foreground is very pleasantly rendered; the background looks like the camera moved. These are simply characteristics of the lens, they are neither wrong nor right. This photo is an extreme case, of a normal daylight shutter speed and a very wide opening. If you look at Tom A's set on Flickr, these things don't appear because his style of shooting is different.
i'm confused...if they are 'simply characteristics of the lens', how could they be affected by 'his style of shooting is different'?
joe
vrgard
Well-known
back alley said:i'm confused...if they are 'simply characteristics of the lens', how could they be affected by 'his style of shooting is different'?
joe
I assume that simply means that "his style of shooting" does not cause those "characteristics of the lens" to become (as) apparent.
-Randy
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