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Pinzonie?

Pinzonie?

The Pinzonie looks very cool. Thanks for the link.
I really enjoy all of the great ideas creative people come up with. I have two comments regarding the Pinzonie pinhole, non lens.
The first is, it looks like it could be very expensive, when it’s offered. The second is, for my money I would use it on the M8. It is a lot cheaper than film and you can see the results immediately.Know way, am I suggesting that digital is better than film, man I don’t want to open that can of worms. What I am saying is, for my taste, seeing the picture right - away is a big advantage, especially for pin hole.
My favorite way to shoot pinhole is with a M8 and a cheap pinhole non - lens, made in China. Samples below. Bill

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Call me crazy...

Call me crazy...

What am I missing? This seems like driving a ferrari down a dirt road to pick up milk at the corner store.
 
I agree that the price will be high. I think I would be able to buy a top quality 6x9 or 6x12 Pinhole camera for what this will cost. But it is interesting and we do frequent a site where people have multiple high value, same focal length lenses, so it is another tool in the box.

As for why use it, I posted it on the Pinhole forum for that reason. :)

Buy the way, if you go back a few months on his web site he covers films and developers using pinholes and zoneplates.
 
It should be simple to make a version of this using an old body-cap in the "usual" way, plus postal-tubes surely ?

If you wanted interchangeable, differently sized pinhole plates they could be held in place with a few small screws and a bit of hot-glue - or for the same cost probably just use another body-cap and tube. Having said that, the device looks over-engineered in a pretty sort of way, but still . . .

Hmmm, I'm just thinking that one sees 39mm extension tubes (for early slr's) very cheaply, so an M/ltm adapter might serve as a useful basis for tinkering.
 
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Ducky said:
Pinhole shooting escapes me, I don't get it at all.
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Well, there can be some interesting effects when using close and far elements in your picture, as they are all equally (un-)sharp, or alternatively where one can use a very long exposure to blur moving objects or materials.

Having longer "focal-lengths" seems counter to how most people (including me) have used the pinhole camera idea, but if they like the results who could complain ? :)

Probably no-one will be replacing their 90mm/f2 lens with pinholes (but if you do I can offer a home to that unwanted glass).
 
Ducky said:
Pinhole shooting escapes me, I don't get it at all.
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Hi Ducky, your observation is what makes any art so interesting. I feel the same as you. I really don’t get it, but for some reason I like the soft pastel dreamy colors. So, when I think about it really is not logical but when it comes to art I gave up being logical along time ago.
One technical thing that you may not have thought about, is the image you see is exactly what the digital sensor sees. With out any lens to diffract the light the color is 100% what the sensor is interpreting. That is fascinating to me, when I think of all of the technology involved to see the image. Bill
 
Praxis Unitas said:
What am I missing? This seems like driving a ferrari down a dirt road to pick up milk at the corner store.
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Hi Unitas, you are right, The M8 is way over kill for pinhole work.
Just to explain, I didn’t buy the M8 to do pinhole photos. Neither did I get it to shoot infrared. The horse - (M8), did come before the cart, and than came the fun stuff. So when I remove the pinhole non lens I can attach the IR lens and get this kind of stuff. Bill

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MartinP said:
It should be simple to make a version of this using an old body-cap in the "usual" way, plus postal-tubes surely ?

If you wanted interchangeable, differently sized pinhole plates they could be held in place with a few small screws and a bit of hot-glue - or for the same cost probably just use another body-cap and tube. Having said that, the device looks over-engineered in a pretty sort of way, but still . . .

Hmmm, I'm just thinking that one sees 39mm extension tubes (for early slr's) very cheaply, so an M/ltm adapter might serve as a useful basis for tinkering.
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I am thinking exactly the same thing. I have a LTM to M adapter and will be looking into this. I think MF or better looks better with pinholes though.
 
Ducky said:
Pinhole shooting escapes me, I don't get it at all.
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I suppose I come from the opposite viewpoint: I don't get trying to shoot pinhole in small-gauge formats like 135. There's nothing there of note, except the novelty of it all, unless you're looking for extremes of emulsion granularity along with the soft image, in which case you really want a subminiature format (which I've toyed with to satisfaction.)

But in large format, you can create a contact print every bit as sharp as an enlarged small-gauge negative, with unlimited DOF, and also employ curved film planes, so-called "pinhole blenders", etc.

~Joe
 
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