Chuck A
Chuck A
I recently bought an R3A and have been trying different lenses with it. I haven't used a straight 50mm for a while and I am really liking it. Many years ago, before my zoom period, the 50mm was all I used. Here are some shots with the Industar 61LD. It doesn't seem overly contrasty and it gives a very nice tonal range.
When I get the chance I am going to compare it with my 40mm M-Rokkor.
When I get the chance I am going to compare it with my 40mm M-Rokkor.
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zuikologist
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Both very nice shots. It is always amazing what an inexpensive FSU lens can do.
pesphoto
Veteran
nice, i gotta get me one of those lenses. Where did you find this gem?
Chuck A
Chuck A
I bought it on Ebay, $28.00 shipped. Focusing was a bit rough when I got it but I cleaned it and it is nice and smooth. Not quite as nice as the M-Rokkor I have but close. I am really enjoying this lens.
ampguy
Veteran
which version
which version
Hi Chuck,
Do you have the regular CL 40/2 Rokkor or the CLE version?
I have an I61 (for sale, make offer) that takes great photos in LTM, but I'm not sure if it's L/D, is it supposed to say L/D on the lens anywhere? Thanks.
which version
Hi Chuck,
Do you have the regular CL 40/2 Rokkor or the CLE version?
I have an I61 (for sale, make offer) that takes great photos in LTM, but I'm not sure if it's L/D, is it supposed to say L/D on the lens anywhere? Thanks.
Chuck A said:I bought it on Ebay, $28.00 shipped. Focusing was a bit rough when I got it but I cleaned it and it is nice and smooth. Not quite as nice as the M-Rokkor I have but close. I am really enjoying this lens.
pesphoto
Veteran
someone is selling them on ebay for $12.00+$10.00 shipping.
Here I go!
37 available. gonna buy just 1.
Here it is if anyone else wants one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Industar-61-LD-...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Here I go!
37 available. gonna buy just 1.
Here it is if anyone else wants one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Industar-61-LD-...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Chuck A
Chuck A
ampguy said:Hi Chuck,
Do you have the regular CL 40/2 Rokkor or the CLE version?
I have an I61 (for sale, make offer) that takes great photos in LTM, but I'm not sure if it's L/D, is it supposed to say L/D on the lens anywhere? Thanks.
I have the CLE version of the M-Rokkor.
As far as the 61LD goes it is labeled on the lens. I can't read Russian but there are 2 letters after the 61, so I assume that is the LD. I bought it mainly because it has click stops for the aperture. I really like having click stops on my lenses. LOL
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by its perfomance. It has a nice sublety to it. It is supposed to be a contrasty lens but I have found it to be crisp but with nice tonality. Maybe I got a different copy. Either way I like it.
ampguy
Veteran
interesting
interesting
I have the CLE 40/2 as well. My I-61 doesn't have any extra letters so I guess it's the non-LD. Also, the "I" is a reversed "N", maybe it's a copy of the I-61!! It does have clicks from 2.8 to 16 with no settings in-between.
Last week I took photos with it on the same roll as an I-22, I-50, and Serenar 35/3.5, but didn't think about adding the 40/2 to the mix at the time. Maybe later this week.
interesting
I have the CLE 40/2 as well. My I-61 doesn't have any extra letters so I guess it's the non-LD. Also, the "I" is a reversed "N", maybe it's a copy of the I-61!! It does have clicks from 2.8 to 16 with no settings in-between.
Last week I took photos with it on the same roll as an I-22, I-50, and Serenar 35/3.5, but didn't think about adding the 40/2 to the mix at the time. Maybe later this week.
Chuck A said:I have the CLE version of the M-Rokkor.
As far as the 61LD goes it is labeled on the lens. I can't read Russian but there are 2 letters after the 61, so I assume that is the LD. I bought it mainly because it has click stops for the aperture. I really like having click stops on my lenses. LOLIt is supposed to perform a bit better because of the special glass. But, I don't know if this is true or not.
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by its perfomance. It has a nice sublety to it. It is supposed to be a contrasty lens but I have found it to be crisp but with nice tonality. Maybe I got a different copy. Either way I like it.
morgan
Well-known
I think the L/D is the only with click stops, right?
I like mine alot, although I find myself using my j-3 for the extra stops. The j-3 seems a little sharper as well, but the I-61 seems to have more 'vibe' - for lack of a better word.
I like mine alot, although I find myself using my j-3 for the extra stops. The j-3 seems a little sharper as well, but the I-61 seems to have more 'vibe' - for lack of a better word.
ampguy
Veteran
does yours have extra letters
does yours have extra letters
after the N-61 or whatever?
does yours have extra letters
after the N-61 or whatever?
morgan said:I think the L/D is the only with click stops, right?
I like mine alot, although I find myself using my j-3 for the extra stops. The j-3 seems a little sharper as well, but the I-61 seems to have more 'vibe' - for lack of a better word.
kully
Happy Snapper
morgan said:I think the L/D is the only with click stops, right?
I've a non L/D and that has click-stops. I think they all do.
fidget
Lemon magnet
I believe that all I61s had the L/D glass, although only the latest black version had it as a badge. There was a great lens database generated here, wonder if that can help you?
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19924&highlight=lens+database
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19924&highlight=lens+database
oscroft
Veteran
Here it is if anyone else wants one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Industar-61-LD-N...QQcmdZViewItem
I've ordered one from that seller too (and I think it tried to arrive today - the postman left a card after either not bothering to knock, or knocking too quietly for me to hear - grrr!). I've used him before and he seems like a good guy (the seller, not the postman) - I got an "as new" J-12 from him for something like £40 including postage.
Best.
ed1k
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There was quite a few manufacturers of Industar lenses. Originally the lenses were marked as Industar-61, then Lytkarino put letter L (who knows what they meant Lytkarino or Lantan glass), and later they added letter D (Dalnomer from russian translates as rangefinder) to distinguish from m42 SLR versions. KMZ also had Industar-61A in production for old Zenit SLRs, and there was Industar 61 L/Z (Zerkalo in russian means mirror) for Zenits SLRs (by Lytkarino). There is a big chance that Industar-61 without any letters was made in Kharkov by FED. They all are good if in good condition.
Industar in cyrillic looks as Индустар
Letter L - Л
letter D - Д
HTH,
Eduard.
Industar in cyrillic looks as Индустар
Letter L - Л
letter D - Д
HTH,
Eduard.
ampguy
Veteran
Thanks
Thanks
According to the database referenced, mine, s/n 69996xx is around the I-61's without the LD designation, and I guess was made between 1969 and 1988, has that same logo as others I-61's, other than the logo, 45 deg CW s/n, 45 deg cw "2,8/52" 45 deg cw backwards N-61, that's all there is, oh, and it's a panda. The 3 screws at the back have red paint in them. The apterture stops only at the big ones, no in-betweens.
Thanks
According to the database referenced, mine, s/n 69996xx is around the I-61's without the LD designation, and I guess was made between 1969 and 1988, has that same logo as others I-61's, other than the logo, 45 deg CW s/n, 45 deg cw "2,8/52" 45 deg cw backwards N-61, that's all there is, oh, and it's a panda. The 3 screws at the back have red paint in them. The apterture stops only at the big ones, no in-betweens.
ed1k said:There was quite a few manufacturers of Industar lenses. Originally the lenses were marked as Industar-61, then Lytkarino put letter L (who knows what they meant Lytkarino or Lantan glass), and later they added letter D (Dalnomer from russian translates as rangefinder) to distinguish from m42 SLR versions. KMZ also had Industar-61A in production for old Zenit SLRs, and there was Industar 61 L/Z (Zerkalo in russian means mirror) for Zenits SLRs (by Lytkarino). There is a big chance that Industar-61 without any letters was made in Kharkov by FED. They all are good if in good condition.
Industar in cyrillic looks as Индустар
Letter L - Л
letter D - Д
HTH,
Eduard.
morgan
Well-known
ampguy said:after the N-61 or whatever?
Mine does have a few characters after the 61.
morgan
Well-known
Also, I got my info on the click stop here: http://home.att.net/~wayne.cornell/camera/lenslist.html
ed1k
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It almost certain was made in 1969. This is one of the earliest I-61 without LD letters. I guess logo is FED, so it was made in Kharkov. FED in cyrillic is ФЭД and their logo is stylish letters FED in cyrillic (manuscript cyrillic Д looks very similar to latin D). Probably this lens left the factory in complect with some beautiful early FED. (I like FEDs up to FED-3).mine, s/n 69996xx is around the I-61's without the LD designation, and I guess was made between 1969 and 1988, has that same logo as others I-61's, other than the logo
P.S. I heard the rumour that some earliest I-61 were not made of lanthan glass, i.e. were not radioactive and so contrasty. I don't have a proof though.
You're welcome,
Eduard.
ampguy
Veteran
Thanks Eduad
Thanks Eduad
If it means anything, it reflects amber. Anyone want to buy this rare piece??
Thanks Eduad
If it means anything, it reflects amber. Anyone want to buy this rare piece??
ed1k said:It almost certain was made in 1969. This is one of the earliest I-61 without LD letters. I guess logo is FED, so it was made in Kharkov. FED in cyrillic is ФЭД and their logo is stylish letters FED in cyrillic (manuscript cyrillic Д looks very similar to latin D). Probably this lens left the factory in complect with some beautiful early FED. (I like FEDs up to FED-3).
P.S. I heard the rumour that some earliest I-61 were not made of lanthan glass, i.e. were not radioactive and so contrasty. I don't have a proof though.
You're welcome,
Eduard.
cjm
Well-known
I've also got one of these from this seller on the way! $22 shipped for a 61L/D + Hood, I doubt that price can be beat, especially comming from Eastern Europe.
pesphoto said:someone is selling them on ebay for $12.00+$10.00 shipping.
Here I go!
37 available. gonna buy just 1.
Here it is if anyone else wants one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Industar-61-LD-...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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