Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
brbo
Well-known
Agree!
I can (or have to) live with the design of Nokton-M 50/1.5 that spread to other Voigländer lenses, but this is getting ridiculous. Looks like they are trying not to sell their lenses. And doubling their efforts trying not to sell their lenses to M camera users (how hard it is to make lenses stop going past rangefinder coupling nowadays, cause Nikon figured that out more than 50 years ago...?!).
Cosina, you may not like to hear this, but we are buying Voigtländer lenses because they are very good performers at not too high prices. Not because we are bored with our plain-looking-5-thousand-apiece-Leica lenses...
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
We have to look from entire market perspective.
Here is dump of cheap MiC manual focus lenses. All looks the same. Including 7A.
And this market is much wider than just RF.
How Cosina would stand out? Make something unusual, yet the same.
Most of their new lenses are tables. They suit majority of the market. Mirrorless with EVF. Look at any Sony made camera. It is so nameless design. Adding funky Cosina made lens adds some fun.
And lets be honest, everything which looks like RF lens is retro now.
Here is dump of cheap MiC manual focus lenses. All looks the same. Including 7A.
And this market is much wider than just RF.
How Cosina would stand out? Make something unusual, yet the same.
Most of their new lenses are tables. They suit majority of the market. Mirrorless with EVF. Look at any Sony made camera. It is so nameless design. Adding funky Cosina made lens adds some fun.
And lets be honest, everything which looks like RF lens is retro now.
Huss
Veteran
Lol, well done!
aizan
Veteran
To be sure, his political messages don't have anything to do with left vs. right. Rather, his political messages are about Leica vs. everyone else, this is the best _______, you should buy this (GASpiration), buying gear will improve your photography, and so on. Relatively harmless stuff since there's no wrong way to enjoy photography, whether you're more into buying gear or more into photos/art/etc.
His approach rubs some people the wrong way, though, because it's all about the clickbait-y appeal to emotions instead of giving due weight to real evidence and authoritative information. He takes the "I'm not a technical reviewer" approach a little too far and doesn't put in the work of someone like Sean Reid.
Archlich
Well-known
Agreed. It's been a long tradition down the line but not until recently (and quite unfortunately) we'd found a word for it. Some are rather harmless like Huff, some are not like the so called "Yashica" campaign and the recent Meyer Optik/ net SE scam.
Takkun
Ian M.
That's an apt way to verbalize the aversion i've had to his site and reviews. Its seems too much like those hyped Youtube videos— you know the type that always start off with 5 minutes of 'hey guys, great video coming up this week, be sure to like and subscribe, and by the way, here's something I'm totally being sponsored to say..."
Even the way he writes I find a little grating and devoid of substance. He HAS to capitalize EVERY other WORD. There's not a lot of analysis.
Always appreciated KR to a degree; I think his sense of humor falls short, but he knows his audience are gearheads but liberally reminds them to just buy the damn thing and go out and shoot. An acknowledgement that due diligence is important in a big purchase but to just go and actually use what you end up with.
Aside from that, the paranormal site...oh boy. I'm down a rabbit hole. Goodbye productivity today...
But back to the lenses: I guess I'm on the fence about the ergonomics. It doesn't look particularly vintage-y to me, the way some others look like old Takumar lenses. Obviously some like the 50 3.5s are out of another era.
I like how it looks, but that might be that it's vaguely reminiscent of the Zeiss ZM line. Hint of polished chrome on black. But I get the aversion for the focusing stick--something I hated about the 35 2.5, along with the short focus throw. Some consider that a positive, but for myself, I'd rather have a longer throw and take advantage of the focus precision of an RF.
Again, as aluded to earlier, anyone have or planning to get this lens? Is there anything substantial over the existing 1.7 Ultron?
Ko.Fe—You're spot on, at least from what I can glean from photographers online. I'm boggled by the number of lenses in the number of mounts Voigtländer markets, but everyone's looking for a different 'look,' if not in images, in their camera setup. Out and about though, I don't think I've ever seen a CV lens in the wild--a lot more kit lenses.
Even the way he writes I find a little grating and devoid of substance. He HAS to capitalize EVERY other WORD. There's not a lot of analysis.
Always appreciated KR to a degree; I think his sense of humor falls short, but he knows his audience are gearheads but liberally reminds them to just buy the damn thing and go out and shoot. An acknowledgement that due diligence is important in a big purchase but to just go and actually use what you end up with.
Aside from that, the paranormal site...oh boy. I'm down a rabbit hole. Goodbye productivity today...
But back to the lenses: I guess I'm on the fence about the ergonomics. It doesn't look particularly vintage-y to me, the way some others look like old Takumar lenses. Obviously some like the 50 3.5s are out of another era.
I like how it looks, but that might be that it's vaguely reminiscent of the Zeiss ZM line. Hint of polished chrome on black. But I get the aversion for the focusing stick--something I hated about the 35 2.5, along with the short focus throw. Some consider that a positive, but for myself, I'd rather have a longer throw and take advantage of the focus precision of an RF.
Again, as aluded to earlier, anyone have or planning to get this lens? Is there anything substantial over the existing 1.7 Ultron?
Ko.Fe—You're spot on, at least from what I can glean from photographers online. I'm boggled by the number of lenses in the number of mounts Voigtländer markets, but everyone's looking for a different 'look,' if not in images, in their camera setup. Out and about though, I don't think I've ever seen a CV lens in the wild--a lot more kit lenses.
ptpdprinter
Veteran
I don't get pimping out your camera with vintage looking lenses that are modern designs. Maybe they should throw in a matching soft release to complete the look.