Carterofmars
Well-known
Just because he acted like an ass afterward, let's not give others acting badly a free pass; hold every person accountable for his or her actions.
A bad act does not, and should not, discount another bad act.
A bad act does not, and should not, discount another bad act.
NY_Dan
Well-known
I live in Anthony Cumia's broadcast area -- NYC/Long Island. And from time to time since the mid 90's I heard his show. I once met his sidekick Opie (who was nice). Their show was funnier in the 90's -- then they got kicked off the air -- in part because of their stunt, and in part because Howard Stern didn't like them, and they were both employed by the same company -- Stern has acknowledged this on-air. When they returned, their show wasn't the same -- not that it was ever pleasant -- they played in a dirty sandbox -- but it had somehow gotten worse, perhaps uglier. And the show had the same tone -- they didn't have two differing personalities, so to me at least it was hard to tell who was speaking. Then Anthony got divorced (very ugly), got into guns -- not out of any sport or hunting interest, but just out of some bad manifestation of his personality. I have no idea how things transpired in Times Sq, but taking photos is legal, and assault is not. Then Anthony went wacky on Twitter -- this is not the same as being a supremacist or clan member -- and I don't think he has any supporters on this forum -- just some people who think the woman and her friends were wrong for their behavior in Times Square and Anthony for his Tweets. Just thought I'd provide some local background info.
noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
[SARCASM] Well, the guy had it coming - he made a photograph of her, in a public place without asking. She should have beaten him half to death. If you take a photograph of someone without asking first, whatever you get you deserve - even if you get stabbed or shot. [/SARCASM]
ianstamatic
Well-known
err no we haven't, speak for yourself
Addy101
Well-known
Being confronted doesn't mean you have to be a, well, again, I can't say it here. There is no need to go loose on twitter. He could've remarked on it in a non-racist and non-sexist way and if he really was attacked, he should have gone to the police. Simple. This isn't about the right to take photographs, this is about being a racist and sexist and in this day and age that simply is something you can't be. Look at the Donald Sterling thing a few months ago. This Anthony Cumia should have known better...
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
This reminds me of the well known "street photographer" who specializes in reactions of mostly old people with flash going off in their faces. Boy I wish he would try that on people who can kick his ass. Sorry for this offensive post.
Pioneer
Veteran
True, we kind of have to take his word for it. But perhaps it's because I've been hanging out on photo forums so much that I believe it. After all, we've had many discussions here on the forum with regards to the etiquette of street shooting and the supposed 'rules'.
This always devolves in a debate between the perceived right and expectation of privacy of the person photographed and the legal right of a photographer to take a shot in a public space.
So when I read his take of what happened… I immediately thought back to all the times I've seen similar encounters posted about here. Anthony just posted it straight to Twitter, rather then start a ten page discussion on street shooting etiquette
I would politely disagree. This has absolutely nothing to do with how to conduct yourself while shooting photos on the street. But does have everything to do with a outrageously rascist and sexist attack by a public figure.
I cannot accept nor condone that type of response. It is born of ignorance and to allow it to continue is to accept that type of ignorance.
E__WOK
Well-known
So if you buy a gun not due to sport or hunting, it makes you a bad person???
Bobfrance
Over Exposed
NY_Dan
Well-known
Not at all -- but there were some YouTube videos a while back of Anthony Cumia acting like a real jerk with huge 50 cal or more military weapon. I think many gun owners would agree. So my point was that his shock behavior wasn't confined to his on-air personality.
bjornkeizers
Established
You've NEVER lost your temper and said something that you shouldn't have? Never wrote something that you later regretted after you cooled down?
Wow, I think even Gandhi himself admitted to some impure thoughts in his time. More power to you if you always and forever manage to keep your cool.
icebear
Veteran
I also have not enough info on how the woman or her friends reacted in the first place. Probably also somewhat overboard.
I also take pictures on the street and although it's perfectly legal to photograph anybody in public place, I do sense when people will not be OK with having there picture taken, then me personally, I don't take that shot and I smile, usually they smile back
.I guess people who post rants like this [A. on Twitter] on a public forum have a very different attitude. How much police is around on TSQ, how many surveillance cameras? It would have been very easy to just back off and go to a friendly officer and call for help. But that wouldn't have gotten shock jock media attention, darn it.
kossi008
Photon Counter
Don't see what this has to do with photography.
Oh, you mean like these guys...
http://www.magnumphotos.com/Catalog...APAN-Tokyo-Yakuza-Japan's-mafia-NN110222.html
NY_Dan
Well-known
zauhar
Veteran
Plus, he always politely thanks his subjects after the flash goes off!
JS, thanks for posting that link, I had not seen those - some great portraits.
Turtle
Veteran
Based on his response to the situation, the man is a complete @rse. Simple.
The alleged assault is a completely seperate issue, which he should have dealt with like a grown up, not a foul mouthed racist eight year old from the 19th century.
As for the woman, who knows what really happened, but had he responded within the law (and without the social networking outbursts), I am sure he could have made valid criticisms of the subsequent process, had it not been carried out appropriately. As it stands, we can only shrug our shoulders and say, 'it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke [cough, splutter]'
The alleged assault is a completely seperate issue, which he should have dealt with like a grown up, not a foul mouthed racist eight year old from the 19th century.
As for the woman, who knows what really happened, but had he responded within the law (and without the social networking outbursts), I am sure he could have made valid criticisms of the subsequent process, had it not been carried out appropriately. As it stands, we can only shrug our shoulders and say, 'it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke [cough, splutter]'