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Yes, if I had taken Bertram's Avatar Picture with my Canon 7 and 50mm F0.95 lens, I never would have known that a Giant Butt was going to be in the picture!
Stupid rookie surprise.
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djon
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Rfdr shooters tend just to use cues in the viewfinder to approximate what we'll get on film...if we wanted to "compose" in the viewfinder we'd be better off with a slr or view camera.
In other words, rfdrs actually ARE different than slrs and view cameras...they tend to make different images, use different film, appeal to different photographers. Youve noticed?
In other words, rfdrs actually ARE different than slrs and view cameras...they tend to make different images, use different film, appeal to different photographers. Youve noticed?
Bertram2
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djon said:
WE do so ? An illegal generalization, in which I do not want to be included and I think
some others of "US" don't want to be included too.
There is a bunch of very well composed photos to be een here on the gallery, which have not found their final form by cropping as I believe to recognize.
I admit other pics indeed look as if they were shot in the style you describe above.
Bertram
Funny, probably doesn't fit the conversation, but some of my best photographs have been taken quickly, capturing the moment. Having the exposure generally set, focus quickly, but perhaps not critically, and composition, try to get it right, but never knew until the neg was developed.
This was me trying to fit into a smaller than me space and falling over...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=7362&cat=3015&page=1
This was me trying to fit into a smaller than me space and falling over...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=7362&cat=3015&page=1
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I compose with my RF, move around until I find an angle that I like, change lenses, etc. I do not switch 'styles" when using an SLR. I use the frame pre-view on the M3 and selector switch on the Nikon SP and Canon 7 to determine if a lens change is in order. I normally use a lens that does not block the framelines. The Canon 7 F0.95 is "special Use" and I will use the left eye for the full-view.
I also do a lot of Use RF spot to focus, then compose and shoot.
Canon 7 w Nikkor 8.5cm F2, wide-open. Focus is on face, then shifted:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1089&cat=3204&page=2
I also do a lot of Use RF spot to focus, then compose and shoot.
Canon 7 w Nikkor 8.5cm F2, wide-open. Focus is on face, then shifted:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1089&cat=3204&page=2
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Bob B
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The whole discussion about composing carefully in the VF is probably best left for another thread, but since we're talking . . .
I love using the Bessa cause of the nice big VF. My Canon 20D doesn't seem as much fun now, although that can change in a week. I also had a VERY small Sony P&S P100 and I could never get used to using the LCD or very small view finder. It had like no shutter lag, but somehow I enjoy using the Bessa on the street more than the Sony. The Canon feels entirely too large to walk around NYC with -- the VF is dark compared to the Bessa.
I agree capturing the timing of the shot sometimes is more important than the framing. That's why I got a digital SLR two years ago -- I couldn't stand the shutter lag on my old digital P&S. SLR's let you snap when you want to. I also cropped as I saw fit on my computer. But since I don't develop my own stuff I need to be more careful about composing in camera.But the big bright VF on the Bessa helps me see the shot a little better.
P.S. Oh and did I say I'm a total RF beginner. After getting the 50mm Nokton on with just a little too many tries, I can't get my 35mm lens back on. The threads just don't seem to engage. What am I missing? They're gonna bar me at PhotoVillage.
I love using the Bessa cause of the nice big VF. My Canon 20D doesn't seem as much fun now, although that can change in a week. I also had a VERY small Sony P&S P100 and I could never get used to using the LCD or very small view finder. It had like no shutter lag, but somehow I enjoy using the Bessa on the street more than the Sony. The Canon feels entirely too large to walk around NYC with -- the VF is dark compared to the Bessa.
I agree capturing the timing of the shot sometimes is more important than the framing. That's why I got a digital SLR two years ago -- I couldn't stand the shutter lag on my old digital P&S. SLR's let you snap when you want to. I also cropped as I saw fit on my computer. But since I don't develop my own stuff I need to be more careful about composing in camera.But the big bright VF on the Bessa helps me see the shot a little better.
P.S. Oh and did I say I'm a total RF beginner. After getting the 50mm Nokton on with just a little too many tries, I can't get my 35mm lens back on. The threads just don't seem to engage. What am I missing? They're gonna bar me at PhotoVillage.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
I still have to tell myself lots of times to recompose after focusing with the central RF patch. And at least 40% of the times i forget. But getting better, i think...
The TLR is better from this point of view - if there's enough time to carefully focus on the ground glass, it can be done simultaneously with composing.
The TLR is better from this point of view - if there's enough time to carefully focus on the ground glass, it can be done simultaneously with composing.
tom_f77
Tom Fenwick
Bob B said:
Top tips for threadmounting: Set the lens to close focus to get the rangefinder cam out of the way, and start by rotating the lens the wrong way until you hear/feel the threads line up with a clonk.
You will be doing it in the dark soon.
Good luck,
Tom
Bob B
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Tom, that did it, but I also had to move the finder switch to the middle postition (35/90mm) as well. Thanks you saved me.
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