Summicron 50 with Leica M6 (5 photographs)

anitasanger

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After a good deal of bashing my Summicron on here, it's only fair that I post post my favorite images taken with it. Keep in mind, these are the lowest contrast images I've ever taken with the lens. 95% of them, look NOTHING like this. I've somehow tamed these by pulling the tri x down to 200 and developing in Rodinal. THus far, it's been the only thing I've done to create negatives I really like with this lens. But I do like this look. Maybe I'm just going to have to learn to shoot film differently and develop differently with this lens. But I still like my Ashai SMC better! 😎

(Note these have been posted in the darkroom section too for different reasons)


img488 by saveamerika, on Flickr


img494 by saveamerika, on Flickr


img496 by saveamerika, on Flickr


img509 by saveamerika, on Flickr


img510 by saveamerika, on Flickr
 
I've somehow tamed these by pulling the tri x down to 200

That's what I shoot Tri-X at to get good shadow detail—200 or 250.

Some nice photos there, that you have made.
 
Why thank you very much. Tri-x at 200 is very fun to use. I can't wait to experiment with it some more. And I really dig Rodinal. I guess I get what everyone has always loved about it.
 
Most of your photos are too flat, if you just use the image straight from the scanner (which is what they look like), the tonality is too compressed. Look at what I did with one of them for you:

I had to resize it smaller since RFF won't let me upload a file as big as your original as an attachment (I didn't want to upload it to my website to link here since its not my photo) but if you want me to email you the full resolution file with the curve adjustment layer I used on it, I can if you want.

All scanned negs require some curves adjustments to bring out the full tonal range.
 
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Actually I liked the flat tones with these shots, seems to fit them since they all have a certain softness to the subject as it is. I'm impressed with that Summicron of yours and the Assahi lens must be sheer magic to beat these shots.
 
Hhaha. Thank you buzzardkid, I really appreciate it. My old Pentax lens is far from magic, it's kind of more like wacky. I'm learning to use the summicron, just in a different way. Thanks for the comment!

Chris, thanks for the rendition. Email me high res at anitasanger@gmail.com if you'd like so I can see it better. I have Photoshop elements, but don't know how to do anything but spot heal. I hate messing with images in photoshop because to me it feels like I'm taking something away from the photo. But I'm willing to try if indeed the scanner is robbing me of tonal properties. Do you care to give me a short explanation of what I should be doing to my negatives after I scan? thanks,

Luke
 
Lovely shots. High contrast shots have their place sometimes. I like to do low contrast shots and had an exhibition of low contrast informal portraits in Leica Gallery Melbourne. They are on Leica Boutique if anyone is interested.
 
Wow, sounds really cool Haigh. Normally, my Summicron produces really contrasted images, I've only now figured out how to tame it. But I agree, contrast is needed at times.
 
Hhaha. Thank you buzzardkid, I really appreciate it. My old Pentax lens is far from magic, it's kind of more like wacky. I'm learning to use the summicron, just in a different way. Thanks for the comment!

Chris, thanks for the rendition. Email me high res at anitasanger@gmail.com if you'd like so I can see it better. I have Photoshop elements, but don't know how to do anything but spot heal. I hate messing with images in photoshop because to me it feels like I'm taking something away from the photo. But I'm willing to try if indeed the scanner is robbing me of tonal properties. Do you care to give me a short explanation of what I should be doing to my negatives after I scan? thanks,

Luke

Luke,

Tell me what version of Elements you have. The older versions don't support curves, so you wouldnt be able to see what I've done to the file, but version 7, 8, and 9 do support the curves adjustment command. If I know what version you have, I can write you instructions for using elements for tonal adjustments.

Please totally forget the idea that a photo should not be adjusted. That idea will stand like a brick wall in the path of any success you wish to have as a photographer. Seriously.

ALL photographs are adjusted in processing, even film printed in the darkroom. They HAVE to be. In the darkroom, we adjust contrast, density (lightness of the image), we dodge and burn (selectively lightening or darkening some parts of the print without affecting the rest). These are all done by professional artists and photographers who do black and white darkroom printing on EVERY image because a negative never prints perfect as a 'straight' unmanipulated image, no matter how perfect your exposure and developing.

The computer is your darkroom when you scan, and tonal adjustments are even more important in the computer because film scanners are designed to scan the high density range of a color slide. That means when you scan a BW negative, with its low density range compared to a slide, the scan is flat and lifeless. I see it constantly on Flickr and here on RFF, people uploading straight scans that lack microcontrast and tonal definition because the photographer had let someone put the silly and absolutely false idea in his/her head that Photoshop is EVIL and should never be used.

Adjusting the tonality of a scan is not the same as removing something from the image or pasting in something that was not there. Not that there is anything wrong with that, because if you're producing art, there isn't. If you're a journalist or documentarian, then altering the CONTENT of the image is unacceptable, but altering the tonality of a scan to make it look right is not only acceptable, it is standard professional practice.

Look here for examples of raw scans and the final images, you'll see what i mean, and let me know what version of Elements you have and I'll email you your photo and the instructions on how to do the tonal work in the version you have.
 
I understand the principles of post processing. I have a darkroom myself and greatly enjoy the act of creating silver prints. My raw scans may be flat, but I still enjoy how they look. I suppose my eye isn't attuned to the subtle variations of contrast available through digital media. Nonetheless, I am willing to learn in hopes of creating a digitized representation of celluloid that more accurately reflects the true characteristics of the said film.

My version is version 6. Thank you for your input.
 
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