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yes to camera info on the opposite page oe in the back of the book?
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Rich Silfver
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May wanna add 'POLL for RF BOOK' in the subject line to attract the right people 🙂
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can't seem to change the title of poll, hhhmmm.
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Peter
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Just for your information. I voted 'opposite page' for ease of reference.
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Rich Silfver
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Samples of how it would look with and without camera/tech info on the opposite page is available at: http://www.pbase.com/rsilfverberg/text_samples
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Todd.Hanz
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I voted Libertarian...........I mean I voted for the opposite page. My reason is if the book is focusing on rangefinder cameras it would be easier to reference (like Peter said), if the book is about the images and the cameras are secondary then by all means we should page reference the cameras in the back. I don't think there will be anyone looking at this book and saying to themselves "Oh look, this was taken with a Leica what a stunning image compared to that one taken with a Yashica GSN".
In fact if everyone would like we could use only images taken with our fixed lens RF's. I'd be perfectly happy with that choice, it might fill a niche that is missing in photography books 🙂.
Todd
In fact if everyone would like we could use only images taken with our fixed lens RF's. I'd be perfectly happy with that choice, it might fill a niche that is missing in photography books 🙂.
Todd
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RML
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My preference goes to the back of the book. Why? Because more photos can go in the book that way. And because I think the technical details could distract from or influence the way one sees the photo.
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Rich Silfver
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It won't effect the number of photos - it will be 2 photos per participating photographer = 50 photos 🙂
The off-setting page will either contain;
- Description of photo w/ technical information, or
- Description of photo w/out technical information.
🙂
Close race here - 4:4 ....
The off-setting page will either contain;
- Description of photo w/ technical information, or
- Description of photo w/out technical information.
🙂
Close race here - 4:4 ....
denishr
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I voted for the back - I'm with modsoul on this. The photos should speak for themselves, and if anyone's interested, it's easy to turn to the index and find info there. This way no "bias" will be present when viewing the photos.
Denis
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RML
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Richard, NOW you tell me! 🙂
Actually, I vored before I had chance to read the entire rf book thread.
But still I'm with the back page crowd. 🙂
Actually, I vored before I had chance to read the entire rf book thread.
But still I'm with the back page crowd. 🙂
taffer
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I voted opposite, knowing that we all like to have that information easily available in the rff gallery.
However, apart from that I have no specific preference, both options are ok for me. Todd's point about using only fixed lens RFs is a good one ... just have in mind that you won't be able to find a Canonet under $100 after that !!! 😉
However, apart from that I have no specific preference, both options are ok for me. Todd's point about using only fixed lens RFs is a good one ... just have in mind that you won't be able to find a Canonet under $100 after that !!! 😉
GeneW
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I voted opposite page because I like to reference the info easily. I don't enjoy reading books with endnotes that keep you flipping back and forth.
For this book I think two of our best images, regardless of camera model. I'd hate to be limited to my fixed-lens RF's since I've only had one for a few weeks.
Gene
For this book I think two of our best images, regardless of camera model. I'd hate to be limited to my fixed-lens RF's since I've only had one for a few weeks.
Gene
Good morning guys. I am an opposite page man myself. I personally will tell a little story with my pictures, like Richard did in his example at Pbase, which will not work if it is at the back of the book. The words need the picture, not the other way around.
I think the Tech info can be captured in the index, that will take away any potential bias regarding camera pedegree.
I think the Tech info can be captured in the index, that will take away any potential bias regarding camera pedegree.
Pherdinand
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I'd like to offer my oppinion as an outsider but who loves the idea and looks forwad to this project, so pls take it as a positive contribution, not as an unwanted critique ... 😀
Honestly, there's so much hipocricy in this world, (including myself), it will be hard to leave the "reader" unbiased if there's written "leica" next to a photo, and "yashica" next to the other one... OTOH, a few words, a "little story", as taffer and others say above, would go well next to the picture. I personally enjoy books that do have a few words and not only the photos themselves. In its current format, looks really good; the text is not too long,not too bright,not too attention-drawing...complements well the image.
Off-topic: the cover: i also had the idea of using that t-shirt design with the rangefinder patch; it would clearly show that it's about photos with rangefinders, but it's not misleading. What I mean is, if there are cameras shown on the cover, one might think that the book is about rangefinder cameras and not pictures...and that would be a pity. On the other hand, if there's a collage of photos, that's no indication that there were rangefinders involved. And, it could look cluttered too.
Hope you don't mind for the above, and, good luck all🙂
Honestly, there's so much hipocricy in this world, (including myself), it will be hard to leave the "reader" unbiased if there's written "leica" next to a photo, and "yashica" next to the other one... OTOH, a few words, a "little story", as taffer and others say above, would go well next to the picture. I personally enjoy books that do have a few words and not only the photos themselves. In its current format, looks really good; the text is not too long,not too bright,not too attention-drawing...complements well the image.
Off-topic: the cover: i also had the idea of using that t-shirt design with the rangefinder patch; it would clearly show that it's about photos with rangefinders, but it's not misleading. What I mean is, if there are cameras shown on the cover, one might think that the book is about rangefinder cameras and not pictures...and that would be a pity. On the other hand, if there's a collage of photos, that's no indication that there were rangefinders involved. And, it could look cluttered too.
Hope you don't mind for the above, and, good luck all🙂
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sfaust
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I should modify my vote then based on the last two responses.
I voted to put the technical info at the back of the book in a nicely stylized index. However, I assumed that the verbal description of the image would stay, and only the technical details such as camera used, film type, exposure info, etc, would be referenced in the back.
If the technical and photo description will not be split up, then I vote for putting it in the opposite page as well, and just putting the technical details in a smaller font/style from the photo description which I consider the 'meat and potatoes'.
I agree that the photographers verbal description of the image should remain with the image itself, or readers will be flipping back and forth for each image as suggested.
I voted to put the technical info at the back of the book in a nicely stylized index. However, I assumed that the verbal description of the image would stay, and only the technical details such as camera used, film type, exposure info, etc, would be referenced in the back.
If the technical and photo description will not be split up, then I vote for putting it in the opposite page as well, and just putting the technical details in a smaller font/style from the photo description which I consider the 'meat and potatoes'.
I agree that the photographers verbal description of the image should remain with the image itself, or readers will be flipping back and forth for each image as suggested.
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i like the t-shirt image for the cover idea too!
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RML
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What is that T-shirt image?
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Todd.Hanz
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Click here to see that thread: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=810
If we use the RFF Logo/ t-shirt design, will that be OK with Jorge, are we referencing this site? What's the opinion in this?
Todd
If we use the RFF Logo/ t-shirt design, will that be OK with Jorge, are we referencing this site? What's the opinion in this?
Todd
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
The web address text would be replaced with the book's title anyway...i thought...or am i wrong?
oftheherd
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Pherdinand said:
That seems logical, but nothing wrong with something somewhere, in a preface (which should be there to explain what the book is about) for instance, with the site address. If people see the book and get past (we hope) "Ah, that's nice" and decide they want to try RF's, we should perhaps let them know where to find us?
