Testing My 3D Printed 6x12 Camera

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Happy Sunday All -

So I've wanted a lightweight 6x12 for a hiking trip I'm taking to Norway coming up. After lots of work, I've gotten most of the items sorted and I took ahold of my first printed prototype. The printing process used is laser sintering. I've found the resolution to be superb (granular to below 0.3mm) and it's also very strong (for items printed with a thickness of over 2mm).

My main concern now is testing it to produce consistent results.

Curent Lens: Mamiya Press 50mm F6.3
Back: Horseman 6x12

Some pics:
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I'd like to solicit some help with what and how to test. Testing is incredibly difficult. You've really got to be systematic and rigorous. I'd love feedback and criticism.

Some thing's I'm actively testing:
1) Distance from Focal Plane to Film Plane
My general philosophy here has been to use a longer lens, shooting at a short focal length and a fast aperture. Overall the goal is to have a very narrow DoF so that you can measure how far off you are.

I shot some preliminary shots and I could see that @ infinity, many of the items in front were in focus but infinite was not, so I knew that the lens to focal plane distance was too long.

My first real test - shoot a subject measured @ 8 feet away using my Mamiya Press 150mm F5.6. I setup a table with a black box against a white background (the box is an empty 4x5 box 😛). Then have a tape measure on its side. Have little black items mark each half foot in front of the black box. Shoot the first shot at 8 feet (which, if everything is perfect, then the black box should be in focus). Then focus the lens @ 9 feet. Then 10. Then 15.

Here's the first shot with the lens focused at 8 feet.
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Here's the second shot at 9 feet.
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I also shot with the lens at 10 feet and it's now out of focus.

Conclusion: Pretty sure 9 feet nails the focus here. The distance the lens travels from 8 to 9 feet is 1.3mm. So if I shorten the film plane to lens by 1.3mm, then my focus should be sharp. If my logic is off here, I humbly ask for criticism 😀

2) Light Leaks

There are a few places where light could come in from:
1) Where the lens meets the body.
2) Where the horseman back meets the body.
3) The plastic that is being printed is porous. It looks black on the outside, but the inside is white (Shapeways paints it black for me). Direct sunlight could simply penetrate the body itself.

So I've come up with some a way of taping over certain parts, to potentially isolate where light is coming in. From my early photos, I can't detect any light leaks, which is good thing. I ran some more rigorous tests to isolate these, but every frame came out 100% overexposed (even when covering up the cracks from places #1 & #2 with gaffer's tape). So I suspect that place #3 is at play here.

I'll have to cover the entire body with gaffers tape to see what happens and if I've missed something. This is pretty disappointing though (just got the film back a couple of minutes ago). I suppose it's noteworthy that this only really happens in direct sunlight. Indirect sunlight won't do this.

Some thought for a remedy:
1) Cover the entire body in gaffers tape (ugly but easy and practical)
2) Cover it in some other material.
3) Add flocking (something I plan on doing) to the inside.

3) General structural strength

Overall it feels really solid. I designed an Arca swiss style plate into the body to act as a "foot" on the front so that it doesn't fall over and I can attach it to my ballhead. This is working well but it's a bit flimsy at the corners of the baseplate. I've redesigned and beefed up the mounts from the baseplate to the body.

4) Odds n Ends
I put a bubble level on the cold shoe and found that it wasn't dead center (using the bubble level on my tripod for that). What I think is happening is that the graflok style back is pushing up against the cold shot and flexing it (pointing it downward). I've changed that in my design. The good news is that when I put the bubble levels on the lens and on the back, they match, so I feel more confident that the film plane and the lens are perpendicular.

Thanks for the reading! If there are other methods of testing I should be doing, please let me know.
 
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^Quite the task you have here . Something that's worked for me as a light leak preventer
is to paint on a coating of "Liquid Tape". Is there any way a ground glass could be used to aid in your focusing tests ? This is an interesting project . Peter
 
^Quite the task you have here . Something that's worked for me as a light leak preventer
is to paint on a coating of "Liquid Tape". Is there any way a ground glass could be used to aid in your focusing tests ? This is an interesting project . Peter



Excellent idea. Probably will look a lot better than the gaffers tape (if used on the outside). But I do plan on flocking the inside and that will most likely significantly reduce the light leaks.

Thanks again!


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Great project. I'd recommend moving the tape measure a bit closer to the center of the field of view, because some of these lenses can have field curvature near the edge, meaning if you calibrate focus on the edge, the center may be a bit off.

From my pinhole camera experience, anything shiny, black or not, will reflect bright sun. Craft stores have adhesive black felt, in sheets, that works good as flocking.

Keep us update on your progress. Well done.

~Joe
 
Great project. I'd recommend moving the tape measure a bit closer to the center of the field of view, because some of these lenses can have field curvature near the edge, meaning if you calibrate focus on the edge, the center may be a bit off.

From my pinhole camera experience, anything shiny, black or not, will reflect bright sun. Craft stores have adhesive black felt, in sheets, that works good as flocking.

Keep us update on your progress. Well done.

~Joe



Thanks. Yea that tape measure is in the photo only for reference, it's not what I used to measure the distance from the film plane to the subject (I used the tape measure directly from the camera to the box I was focusing on).

Good idea with the flocking, I ordered some from Prophoto. Looking forward to the next iteration and seeing what the flocking does for the shots.


www.stillthrill.com
 
I'd love to help with this project if you're interested, in terms of the printing. Message me if this is of interest. 🙂
 
Great project and it looks great as well.

I'd start by trying to measure the register distance. Put the camera on something flat, remove the lens and measure from the lens seat to the film. Measure at several points around the circumference and compare to what a Mamiya Press should have. My experience with 3D print is that it isn't very precise not very flat/perpendicular.

First correct that and then use some paint/coating/flocking at the inside to make it lightproof.
 
Great project and it looks great as well.

I'd start by trying to measure the register distance. Put the camera on something flat, remove the lens and measure from the lens seat to the film. Measure at several points around the circumference and compare to what a Mamiya Press should have.

This is a good idea. I suspect I am fine in this regard.

My experience with 3D print is that it isn't very precise not very flat/perpendicular.

I would agree with extruder-based printers. But 3D printing using laser sintering is a completely different process. But I need to put my money where my mouth is and give you some results showing that it works well 😀 And that I plan on doing
 
So I've tested through a lot of the issues and I think Ive nabbed them all.

I added some flocking and it helped tremendously. Things are looking great. Here are some shots from Cape Cod on the beach and the Providence RI Amtrak train station. (BTW - I switched to the Mamiya Press 75mm lens instead of the 50 6.3. The 50 will vignette slightly but not the 75mm).

Next trip... Norway 🙂

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Great project and it looks great as well.

I'd start by trying to measure the register distance. Put the camera on something flat, remove the lens and measure from the lens seat to the film. Measure at several points around the circumference and compare to what a Mamiya Press should have. My experience with 3D print is that it isn't very precise not very flat/perpendicular.

First correct that and then use some paint/coating/flocking at the inside to make it lightproof.

I also made some test shots with my 150 5.6 (again using a very thin DoF to show exactly where the focal points are) and it's sharp across the negative. I should be good here.
 
I can't help with any of the technicals, but I will certainly express my admiration for your skill and initiative and creativity. All the best with it!

John
 
I can't help with any of the technicals, but I will certainly express my admiration for your skill and initiative and creativity. All the best with it!

John

Thanks, John. It was definitely and obsession of mine. In fact, tweaking, adding, subtracting is an addiction, even to this day. I just wanna work on it, it seems. And every iteration, I find that I can do things better, different.

So, for example, I printed this entire thing as a single piece. Which is great for a lot of reasons - it's more lightweight, it's stronger etc. But I didn't think about the challenges of adding flocking. If I were to re-do the camera, I would change these two things mainly:

1) Make the lens cone narrower (there's lots of extra space inside).
2) Print the lens cone, back and adapter that mates with the 120 back all separate (and have holes to screw them together). With separate parts, it's easier to add flocking. And flocking is incredibly important, for lots of reasons.

I suspect a V 2.0 will be worked on soon.
 
Very impressive. So how do we order one !!! 😀😀😀

Note sure if I should release it in the current iteration or work on a better, Version 2.0 that is all printed with separate parts. I'm still thinking about how I could potentially work this out. But I appreciate the enthusiasm! 🙂
 
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