That's it I'm done chasing technolgy...

Socke, can you translate the article for us, seems like it would be a good read.

http://einestages.spiegel.de/externa...#featuredEntry

Cheers

MArk
Quito, EC
 
mw_uio said:
Socke, can you translate the article for us, seems like it would be a good read.

http://einestages.spiegel.de/externa...#featuredEntry
I'm using the Translator add-on/plug-in for Firefox, and it seems to do a reasonable job, at least with the German.

Quite a story, and the photos tell quite a tale as far as chasing technology goes over the decades. In F1, it's long been Bleeding-Edge or Die.

Edit: take a look at the early shot of what Schlegelmilch was using "back in the day." Holy Contaflex, Batman! :)

He hasn't aged too badly in the intervening years. I'll presume that big Canon is a D model.


- Barrett
 
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DCP said:
Ok! Now that we've all done chasing technology.. :) Does anyone have any experience having their prints done on Durst Labs? I've got a partner who's considering investing in one.. and since you guys are the first and foremost authority on image QC ;) Hehe.. kind enough to spare any thoughts on them? Durst USA

This was one I thought didnt have enough shadow detail :)
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Hard to say from just viewing on a screen...from here, I'd say it's not too bad. But the proof is in the print, period.


- Barrett
 
mw_uio said:
Socke, can you translate the article for us, seems like it would be a good read.

http://einestages.spiegel.de/externa...#featuredEntry

Cheers

MArk
Quito, EC

Not too easy, didn't do much translating in the past 20 years :)

And back then it was mostly technical documentation from english to german.

Here are the texts to the pictures, I didn't proof read and I'm unsure about my grammar, corrections welcome.

Picture 1) "Lenkungsaufgabe:" A small round wheel, three round gauges and lots of wires - this was a Formular 1 Ferraris cockpit in 1971 (a scene from the Netherlands GP 1971). Today a formular 1 steering wheel is oval and full of controlls. Here we have a season 2007 Ferraris cockpit shot at the Malaysian GP in Sepang.

Picture 2) "Pitstop:" the two pictures are exactly 30 years apart. Above is Jacky Ickx' pitstop in Monza 1968 and below Michael Schumacher in Spielberg 1998.

Picture 3) "Schraubstube:" The formula 1s change from a bold spectacle to a calculating enterprise can't be shown better then in thees two pcitures. Above the Ferrari box in Monza 1972 (note the gearbox in the dirt) and below the clincaly clean Ferrari Box in Bahrein 2005.

Picture 4) "Sperrgebiet:" How easy it was back then in formula 1, and how dangerous. Above a scene from Zandvort 1969 in which a photographer is aproaching the track to get his shots. The picture below shows the Turkey GP in Istanbul 2005, particularly security fences. grandstands, guard railing and a photographer out of harms way.

Picture 5) "Ewiger Lockruf:" Gridgirls is what the young ladies who liven up the paddock and the pitlane and add a glamourus touch are called. This has been the same in Monza in 1967 as in Nuremburg in 1998 and it is still the same today. The attire OTOH has changed dramaticaly, as these photos clearly show.

Picture 6) "Kurvendiskussion:" These two pictures show a most challenging curve. However, this particular part of the Spa-Francorchamps racetrack changed significantly from 1962 (above) to 2004 (below). It is now less challenging and more safe, for drivers and spectators.

Picture 7) "Vollgas-Telegram:" An abbreviation for the drivers name and numbers which are the world in racing. Here we see the so called Pitboards - in 1971 for Jo Siffer in Zeltweg, Austria (above) and 2005 the Ferrari crews message for Rubens Barrichello (cognizable from the brazlian flag) in Indianapolis (below).

Pciture 8) "Arbeitsplatz:" Here we see the drivers workplaces, 23 years apart. Above is Nelson Piquet preaparing for the race in his Brabbham BMW in Zandvoort 1984 and below is Nick Heidfeld in his BMW Sauber getting ready for the race in Valencia 2007.

Pciture 9) "Heldenparade: The drivers great the fans at the track, and we see that this ceremoney has changed, too. The picture above shows the parade before the swedish GP in Anderstorp 1974, below is the parade before the race in Hockenheim 2001

Picture 10) "Signalgeber:" Quick information about the current race situations is essential for formula 1 drivers. The picture above shows a scene from the french GP in Le Castellet 1993 when the drivers where still informed with abbreviated names on boards about the current situation. Below is a current command post, in this case BMW Sauber from the last season.

Picture 11) "Roter Bereich:" Deep red dominates these two backsides - above a Model from Marlboro at teh hungarian GP in Budapes and below a Ferrari race car. Both from the same year.

Picture 12) "Spannungsabbau:" Jacky Ickx found a shady place in Monza 1970, And Ferrari driver Felipe Massa relaxes - shaded by his team manager Jean Todt - in Barcleona 2007

Picture 13) "Zielschuss:" Both times the Monaco GP, both times photographers aim for the passing cars, anyhow, the pictures are from different epochs of racing and photography. Above is a pciture from 1969 and below one at the same place, with heavy rain, in 1997.

Picture 14) "Gasgeber" Formula 1 drivers have to have enourmus sensitivity in their right foot. That's with what they operate their accelerator. Above are the taped feet of swiss racer Jo Siffert - in a relaxed position at the GP in Monza, Italy in 1968. The picture below shows Michael Schumachers foot at the spanish GP in Barcelona 1997.

Picture 15) "Tollkühne Männer:" Ayrton Senna, the pictures above shows him at the GP in San Marino, Imola 1987, domnated the formula 1 until his death. Lewis Hamilton, in the picture below aht the GP in Istanbul 2007, delivered a sensational performance in his first F1 season.

Picture 16) "Schilderwald:" Acuratly sorted boards ready to be used. Above Monza 1969 and below Spa-Rfancorchamps 2007.

Picture 17) "Auf der Mauer:" Mechanics waiting for the next service. Above a scene at the Targa Florio in Sicily and below the Sauber mechanics at the hungarian GP in Budapest 2003.

Picture 18) "Vollgas im Visier:" Photographer Rainer Schlegmilch somewhen in the 60s at a formula 1 racetrack.

Picture 19) "Das Auge der Formel 1:" Rainer Schlegmilch - here we have a pciture from 2005 - shoots car racing for 46 years now.
 
JimDE said:
I'm back with my G2 and film. I am so tired of chasing mega pixels only to end up with back focus, front focus, black frames, and a hunk of metal not worth 1/10 what it cost new. They can have the dSLR's and all the headaches and financial loss. In reality buying digital is always being a step or two behind current technology and the camera companies know this and play our wallets empty chasing the latest and greatest for the right to see your shot instantly.

I'll keep a waterproof point and shoot digital for those quick shots but no more dSLR chasing for me. I have enough confidence in my ability to capture an image that I can wait to see my image as i did from the mid sixties through this digital age. Heck what i have spent and lost in digital SLR's I could of had a heck of a Leica system in my bags.

Anybody else tired of the digital merry go round?

Good evening everyone,

I'm new and only a "guest", since even if I'd like to, I haven't any RF camera, actually. I guess the two models (despite very different) I appreciate more are the contax G2 and the zeiss Ikon, but I'm not here for this reason.

I feel a lot what you mean. I have a very nice set of Nikon SLR and DSLR and guess what? Since I "discovered" slides, I'm shooting with my D200 much less. Probably, but also for that reason, I guess if I could afford something on digital, it would be straightly the D3 (which costs a whole lot of money) but not less, for image quality. I would find it extremely useful for wedding and ceremonies, where DSLRs give their best, especially if you're the official photographer.

About rangefinder cameras, it's a new world to explore, although my ability isn't ready yet for such step. On one hand, I'd like having something more compact than my "bulky" reflex cameras with their lenses, on the other, I'm not ready yet for a full manual (or so) experience, so I'm limiting to "study" and "learn".
 
Dino, it's actually quite easy, and you can start out relatively cheaply. I would recommend a Bessa R and the Color Skopar 35/2.5, or if you prefer a 50mm lens, one of the LTM Canons. These lenses are hard to beat (I have both).

The Bessa R has a light meter, so life is good.
 
I agree. I'm considering selling my M8. I thought it was the feel of the camera that I proffered. So I forked over for the M8. In actuality. I just don't like digital and I still find myself always reaching for my M7 and a pouch of film. I still need digital though for work. I'm thinking of picking up a cheap Nikon D80 and a cheap 2.8 zoom and just being done with it. I've owned a lot of cameras. and I've noticed regardless of which one I'm using my work looks the same. But I feel like I work better with film.
 
I am happy with my R-D1 as a digital rangefinder and feel no need to chase after the M8. I have a D200 and feel the need for a D3. If I had that, maybe my technology lust would abate. But who knows? I feel at some point digital cameras will be "good enough" and we can all be "done". The R-D1 does that for me among the RFs. I suspect the D3 would do it for me among the dSLRs.

/T
 
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