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JoeFriday said:
hey! that was AFTER it locked up...🙂
the cl crapped out today...
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hey! that was AFTER it locked up...🙂
richard_l
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i wonder what richard thinks...😉
Oh Joe, that is terrible. Sorry to hear the news.
Parts camera? If it were me I would have to have it repaired. With the repair at least you can reclaim a fair value and offer a quality product if you decide to sell it at some point.
Parts camera? If it were me I would have to have it repaired. With the repair at least you can reclaim a fair value and offer a quality product if you decide to sell it at some point.
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
Sorry to hear about the CL, Joe...
Now, that M4-P has a nice luster to it. Why not send the CL to Sherry, get it repaired and then... Nah, takes too long, and by then the M4-P might be gone.
BTW, this last weekend I saw William's CL... and I liked it a lot! 🙂 It's a small camera, very discreet. Don't part with it. Just keep it as a meterless shooter, repair it later, get the M4-P, go out and shoot more...
Not a bad idea, huh? 🙂
Now, that M4-P has a nice luster to it. Why not send the CL to Sherry, get it repaired and then... Nah, takes too long, and by then the M4-P might be gone.
BTW, this last weekend I saw William's CL... and I liked it a lot! 🙂 It's a small camera, very discreet. Don't part with it. Just keep it as a meterless shooter, repair it later, get the M4-P, go out and shoot more...
Not a bad idea, huh? 🙂
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hey francisco!
it can't be used as is, so it either sits (for now) or gets fixed.
it can't be used as is, so it either sits (for now) or gets fixed.
Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
If I can't have it (and I can't, no matter if I sold everything I currently have), someone should have the M4-P. So why not Joe!
I would say that since you already have one CL, a different camera body may do you good. The best thing is that the M4-P will have all the framelines you'd ever need.
I would say that since you already have one CL, a different camera body may do you good. The best thing is that the M4-P will have all the framelines you'd ever need.
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I've heard great things about Sherry. Not had the chance to user, but will without a second thought.
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easier to use kinderman, right here in canada.
they are very good as well.
plus, i bought a used lens from her site once and it was not even close to described.
joe
they are very good as well.
plus, i bought a used lens from her site once and it was not even close to described.
joe
Ronald M
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Sherry at GoldenTouch can repair the meter problem. She is an expert on them as is DAG. Personally I would not trash it.
dcsang
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Joe...
I would suggest David Yao in Toronto as well. Kindermann's prices may be steep.
Dave
I would suggest David Yao in Toronto as well. Kindermann's prices may be steep.
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dave, can you p.m. his info to me, please.
joe
joe
GeneW
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Bummer indeed Joe! I'm leaning towards the M4-P for you... does that help? 🙂
Gene
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GeneW said:
it gives me a warm feeling...😉
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merciful
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It's not a "may be" thing: they are. Cheaper (excepting perhaps the Yao option) to ship to the States and back for service.
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i just sent off an email.
clintock
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It sounds like the little steel pin that the meter arm pivots around has slipped out of one of the brass bushings. With the lens off look at the upper corner of the light box closest to the speed dial,
observe the meter arm and you'll see it pivots on a pin that should be flush with two bronze or brass bushings at the top, one on either side of the black parallel steel plates.
You can look at the other bushing with the shutter on b and held open with a cable release.
If the pin is slid out of one (probably the front {lens side}) bushing, the pin should be sticking back towards the shutter, and maybe you can push it back into place, it should be flush with the brass surface.
It appears the brass bushing should be struck with a punch next to the pin so as to distort the brass thus holding the pin.
Hitting the innards of the camera with a hammer driven punch sounds terrifying to me, so maybe, if that's it after all, I don't know exactly how to affix the pin short of asking an expert.
I was gonna say super glue on a needle or maybe nail polish, applied with the minimum amount possible on the pin/brass but if any of that got into the rotating parts, tragedy!
The above is based purely on conjecture based on staring at my cl's meter arm mechanism and trying to see what must fail in order to make the arm behave the way the broken cl was described. While I have experience in meter repair and rangefinder calibration of the CL, I have not had to work on the meter arm yet..
observe the meter arm and you'll see it pivots on a pin that should be flush with two bronze or brass bushings at the top, one on either side of the black parallel steel plates.
You can look at the other bushing with the shutter on b and held open with a cable release.
If the pin is slid out of one (probably the front {lens side}) bushing, the pin should be sticking back towards the shutter, and maybe you can push it back into place, it should be flush with the brass surface.
It appears the brass bushing should be struck with a punch next to the pin so as to distort the brass thus holding the pin.
Hitting the innards of the camera with a hammer driven punch sounds terrifying to me, so maybe, if that's it after all, I don't know exactly how to affix the pin short of asking an expert.
I was gonna say super glue on a needle or maybe nail polish, applied with the minimum amount possible on the pin/brass but if any of that got into the rotating parts, tragedy!
The above is based purely on conjecture based on staring at my cl's meter arm mechanism and trying to see what must fail in order to make the arm behave the way the broken cl was described. While I have experience in meter repair and rangefinder calibration of the CL, I have not had to work on the meter arm yet..
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This sounds like an excellent analysis to me.
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i just had this crazy idea...i think i got it from someone here...😉
if i sell the working cl, the 21/4, the 40/1.4 and the 90/4 i could buy a black zi and still have lots of glass left.
i think drinking would be a cheaper hobby!
joe
if i sell the working cl, the 21/4, the 40/1.4 and the 90/4 i could buy a black zi and still have lots of glass left.
i think drinking would be a cheaper hobby!
joe
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i just put the m4-p deal on the back burner for me.
it's still available for sale and chuck is a good guy to deal with.
i think it might be a bit nuts to rush into buying another used camera and to do so without really thinking it through.
(the doctor must be right...these new pills are working fine 😉)
i should at least sleep on it and maybe just live with 3 good cameras, things could be worse, right?
joe
it's still available for sale and chuck is a good guy to deal with.
i think it might be a bit nuts to rush into buying another used camera and to do so without really thinking it through.
(the doctor must be right...these new pills are working fine 😉)
i should at least sleep on it and maybe just live with 3 good cameras, things could be worse, right?
joe
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