The Day After Obama's Cairo Speech

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Whenever I was asked whom I voted for in the last recent Israeli National elections, I proudly responded "My President has been already elected - Obama". So in this sense you can count me perhaps as one of the world Obama's symphatisers, who shares his "Imagine" song views.

I must confess that after his Cairo Reconciliation Speech, I have become in great doubt about who Obama really is and really thinks. I am in doubt not from the Israeli right wing side who sees GWBush as the best the world can have from the USA, but quite from the other side.

The other side who sincerely wishes the USA to take what in my eyes would be a positive role, both in the Middle East and worldwide. In this sense, perhaps you can count me as one of the hundreds of millions in the Muslim world and in the Occident as well, waiting for change.

Obama's speech brought no much new in the text, and some gross things to review.

Under the slogan of forwarding sincerity, Obama forwarded sincerity in what is comfortable to his view to forward, but hided much of the main issues the peoples of the East are worried about.

Let's be sincere about the nuclear Iranian issue, fine. What about the Israeli nuclear capability as part of the vigilance/control package ? Will Mr Obama's vision for a future worldwide de-nuclearization be enough to convince the Iranian people to vote on behalf of an anti-nuclear candidate in next elections?

Let's be truly sincere about the US and the Arab World. What about the issue of oil ? Who controls it, who benefites from it, and specially who doesn't ? Isn't it the main "source of tension" ?

Let's be sincere about democracy, literacy, woman status and all other issues it is not clear in which stand Obama preached them, instead of talking about the control of Arab oil. Any small indication or undirect disaproval of all these problems within the US friendly moderate regimes and their reckless internal secret police repression, Mr Obama ? Not that unfriendly USA regimes are better, but if you sell sincerity, sincerity obliges.

And in my opinion, one of the biggest failures if not a gross lie, was Obama's principle value about Terror and Violence. This issue merits a very cautious approach, and a clear cut disassociation from mass civilian murder.

But Mr Obama, who liked so much to remind Americans about their revolutiionary Fathers tradition, lied when with a wrinkle to the Palestinians he reminded that all subjugated peoples in History advanced their cause thrugh peacefull means only. Was this the way George Washington led the American people to Independence ?

True, to claim that violence is the only way, would be a gross mistake too. And worst than that to mix between violence and terror. What is violence ? It is the right of all oppressed peoples to apply force to liberate themselves. Force can be applyied in very different ways. One of them, and a very clever and recommended one, was the type of force applyied by Mahatma Ghandi, Luther King, and the African National Congress.

But let's not fool ourselves in that in all these cases, it was the underlined threat of violence the one who pressed freedom's adversaries. Yes, better to threat than to fight, and if you have to fight, fight against organized military forced and never against civilians. Never stain your freedom flag. But I don't think any oppressive nation will fade away from her status as such by the begging empty hands of the barefoot.

No one, and I mean no one, has any right to murder, and even less to mass murder under any circumstances, be it clear cut said. But oppressed do have a natural right to fight oppression. Dennying this will denny the American Constitution.

I am somewhat pisted off because the man who told the American People "Yes we can", was very very restrained in extending his hands to a whole world in deep need of friendship by the US and deep need of economic fairness and hi-tech assistance.

He looked very defiant too, as if the millions hearing him were millions of Obama's supporters = an assumption that Obama himself dennyies as a stereotype. So who were you so much challenging beyond your dearest allyies - those hundred of millions hoping the mightest country in the world can bring a positive change. Unclear, Obama, my friend.

Had you to satisfy some dark but mighty corners within the USA ?

So I have not been so happy by seeing Obama freedom preaching hosted by Mubarak's retro oppressive regime. Yet the Palestinians both in the streets and at the political high levels have been quite clever in their reaction. Good intentions -they said on different TVs- they have heard several times - let's see now the dids.


Cheers,
Ruben
 
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With all the issues, ranging from 'the economy' to 'The Middle East', all he can do is talk. He is in no position to produce a solution. At one point the public, or at least parts of it, is going to be very disappointed.

Reminds me of John F. Kennedy. Don't misunderstand me. He was one of the best US presidents, ever. But he was also this slick speaker that promised too much.

Like promising the exile Cubans that the Cuban flag once would fly over Havana again, - indicating 'very soon'. When they found out that he was 'just talking' and quite on the contrary tried to normalize relations with Castro, behind closed doors, the exile cubans got very angry. Those who have read anything about the Kennedy assassination will tell you that 'exile cubans' just pop up all over the place in that story.

Not that I foresee an assassination of Obama. That would be just too bad. But maybe he/we shall not take a 2. term for granted. He could easily be surpassed by a political competitor from the dark brown conservative parts of USA that just tells the truth; 'I can promise you nothing but blood, sweat and tears'. It's been done before. - Not that I think that this will be any better.
 
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Spoks,

I looked around for your latest statements on Obama and the visit to Russia. The whole thread seems to be deleted. That's hefty! Anyway, you were right in your description of Obama's financial policies. The enormous sums spent on securing the US financial institutions does not seem to help the economy in general. Still some half a million jobs are lost in USA per month. While the US tax payers must carry an enormous tax burden to 'save' the US financial institutions. Actually saving the same people that brought the country up in this mess!
 
I find it strange and weird that Obama & the Democrats covers up what this CIA death squad was all about. I don't beleive the Washington Post hogwash that Osama Bin Laden was the target. Nor do I believe that he is in Pakistan, if he still is alive. Norwegian intelligence (but they are a flock of idiots, I am sure) reckons that Osama is in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

The US press has all too soon forgotten the antrax attacks on political enemies of George W. Bush... Was the CIA behind it...? I don't follow US politics that much (too frustrating), but there is supposed to be another suspicious political death right in front of the first time Georg W. Bush were elected (sort of...) as president. Was CIA behind that too? Thanks to the symbiosis between D and R we will never know.
 
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Behind the haze of all the Michael Jackson news, a Russian guy is arrested for stealing a program code from his ex. employer, Goldman Sachs. What could be surface is the way the big banks cheat on us in the stock markets. They use programs that can manipulate the market in unfair ways, according to an US prosecutor.

Imagine a stock order is placed from a broker to the floor on NYSE. It's done by SMS, a message that could take a few seconds. Speculation go that Goldman Sachs have a way of picking up such orders and send a forerunner order, within milliseconds, so that they are in a comfortable situation before large orders are placed on the floor of NYSE. That's fraud!
 
But Mr Obama, who liked so much to remind Americans about their revolutiionary Fathers tradition, lied when with a wrinkle to the Palestinians he reminded that all subjugated peoples in History advanced their cause thrugh peacefull means only. Was this the way George Washington led the American people to Independence ?
Dear Ruben,

Well, yes. By current definitions, Washington was a terrorist. King George was legally the head of state. On the other hand, his moral status was, to be generous, disputable. And of course the Irgun Zvai Leumi were freedom fighters...

Shalom,

R.
 
I voted for Lhamo Döndrub, Jetsun Jamphel Ngawang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama.
 
Behind the haze of all the Michael Jackson news, a Russian guy is arrested for stealing a program code from his ex. employer, Goldman Sachs. What could be surface is the way the big banks cheat on us in the stock markets. They use programs that can manipulate the market in unfair ways, according to an US prosecutor.

Imagine a stock order is placed from a broker to the floor on NYSE. It's done by SMS, a message that could take a few seconds. Speculation go that Goldman Sachs have a way of picking up such orders and send a forerunner order, within milliseconds, so that they are in a comfortable situation before large orders are placed on the floor of NYSE. That's fraud!

I have always found it hard to believe that this huge stock trade world wide is real. Real in the sense that there is really a different buyer and seller in both ends. Now we hear that computerized trading on NYZE is over 70%! Goldman Sachs got a huge part of this. 40% some indicate. The trade on NYSE and other stock exchanges are just bogus!
 
Its ok Rueben if you can't figure out who Obama is. Most of the people in the US don't know either. His election was more of a popularity contest than it was about capability.

Richard
 
I have grown sceptical. I think Obama's administration is letting Wall Street get away too easily with little or no control on the TARP money etc.

But...

I totally agree with Obama on the Health Care Reform issue. It is urgent for USA to adopt a more socialistic (if you like) or more European health care system, in which everybody contribute, but also everybody have a right to use - and where the cost is under government control. This is not only going to help all the 47 million US citizens that are not covered, but it will make the US workforce competitive.

I liked to see Obama coming out so clear, so focused and so strong on this issue. I am crossing my fingers...
 
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