bmattock
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BrianShaw said:Hi...I'd like to order a Karma Burger, no cheese, small order of fries... and can I substitute a Coke for the shake? Oh... and for dessert, a Nutella crepe.
Six Fifty, please drive around.
BrianShaw said:Hi...I'd like to order a Karma Burger, no cheese, small order of fries... and can I substitute a Coke for the shake? Oh... and for dessert, a Nutella crepe.
I was basing my use of the word 'art' on the following, rather broad, definition that requires no input from a viewer.bmattock said:One may argue that 'art' is interpreted by the ultimate viewer of the finished product.
But, point taken.1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature
kbg32 said:"I forgot to duck but I got a wonderful shot of those who did... my policy of standing up when the others are down finally caught up with me."
"...I am always torn between the attitude of the journalist, who is a recorder of facts, and the artist, who is often necessarily at odds with the facts."
- W. Eugene Smith
Wayne R. Scott said:I can totally understand the Zen reference with shooting sports, be it long range rifle, skeet, archery, or hand gun shooting.
Wayne
Jerevan said:I have to say; what you wrote Bill, hit a certain string in my heart. It is eloquently written and I smiled when I read the Winogrand quote. 🙂 You put a finger on the thing I am not always able to convey in words - the quality of the moment, and how to enjoy it.
bmattock said:Those targets will never threaten anyone again. Well done, sir!
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
Wayne R. Scott said:I can totally understand the Zen reference with shooting sports, be it long range rifle, skeet, archery, or hand gun shooting.
Try listening to film critics on opposing sides of the "auteur theory" without wanting
to ram an ice pick through your skull. Everything you said just had that "right" feel
to it, with the result that my own thoughts on the matter were both reinforced and
clarified.
Very much. Thank you for the eloquent essay, Bill. Makes me want to go out and shoot (either/or 😀 ) and provided me with an "Ah ha..." moment or two.bmattock said:Well, just some random thoughts. Hope you enjoyed it.
Sparrow said:Please forgive the impudence of a new member here and a born again RF photographer.
Having read with great interest this and a similar thoughtful and well reasoned thread on the forum I’m left with an overwhelming sense of inadequacy in that what I thought was a simple matter of pressing the button when the narrative and aesthetic elements of an image came together in time, is actually such a complex almost semi religious task
I would be interested to know if any other novices following this discussion have been encouraged to go out aiming to emulate HCB, or become as confused I have.
However I very much enjoyed the firearms analogy, and now have an enduring mental image of a war weary Tim Page laying down his trusted Nikon AK47 and returning to his native rolling Yorkshire hills and dales to render nature with a LF 4.5” Linhof field mortar (very, very Python to a devotee)
Respectfully Stewart McBride
Sparrow said:Hi Bill
To be honest I’ve not read him since college where I formed, with the certainty of youth, the opinion that while he had an exquisite eye for the image, extraordinary timing but that the text was more a self promoting aggrandising of something that came naturally to him.
I was surprised when the text and written narrative was receiving so much attention and such intellectual analysis here when the images were not. Perhaps I’ve not been around long enough.
I will have to find the books and see if I still see him as “old time European elitist” taking snaps in a Poetic Reality genre
regards Stewart