The demise of film..has it started?

I have wanted to try the European brands for awhile now. Can you recommend anything with very little grain?

What Remy said: Efke KB25, and also what he said about the soup/process.

The brand name Efke is apparently going away. They are going to drop the KB50 film and rebrand the 25 & 100 films Adox, which is the name of the old company that licensed the formula to Fotokemika (the company that makes Efke). See the last but one post by Jorge Oliveira at the link below.

Silver based manufactureres?
 
Re: The demise of film..has it started?

wblanchard said:
I'm a little nervous for the future of film. I've recently read where Ilford may discontinue PAN F and Kodak is starting plans to phase out film.

Personally, I cannot live without my Ilford or Kodak Portra film and don't want to shoot digital.

Whats everyones take on this?
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The automobile did not kill the bicycle, just as television did not do away with the radio.

Russ
 
You know what I think is odd?

BY the end of the sixties, my parents could hardly get rollfilm for their box-camera anymore. It became so difficult, that they switched to 35mm (like everybody else). Somehow after that it revived; currently I can buy a whole slew of 120 films of various brands and types and have it developed for amazingly low prices. Rollfilm may be 100+ years old, but it's alive and kicking.

By the end of the seventies it became increasingly difficult to get B&W film and have it developed. It became so expensive, that I switched to color (like everybody else). But presently there's a wider selection available than then and it's cheaper to boot.

Somehow, I see a trend here...
 
"Colour had gone digital, black and white is going colourful" - Dr. Tim Rudman

Black & White film will be around for a 'while' yet.
A lot of obscure colour film will disappear into the night, but remember has Kodak kills off a line of film, watch Lucky Film's (in China) product line increase.

Hevean help Fuji if they kill off RVP (Velvia ISO50).

Also you can't do lighting photography with digital!
I've tried recently with one of the uni's D100's, what a load of cr*p...
Still can't beat a 'blad and RVP when comes to catching Mother Earth in a bad mood.

Stu :)

PS. Still haven't taken my Bessa out for a storm shoot, not too sure how water-proof it is.
 
pvdhaar said:
BY the end of the sixties, my parents could hardly get rollfilm for their box-camera anymore. It became so difficult, that they switched to 35mm (like everybody else). Somehow after that it revived; currently I can buy a whole slew of 120 films of various brands and types and have it developed for amazingly low prices. Rollfilm may be 100+ years old, but it's alive and kicking.
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It's likely they were using Kodak-specific formats like 620 or 127. 120 film has never been hard to get and it dates back decades (my 1929 Voigtlander folder takes 120 film). It was the Kodak cams that were non-standard and for which roll film has disappeared. But even today you can get these formats from specialty dealers who respool modern films onto the old reels.

Of all the formats to survive into the future, I think 35mm surely, and 120 highly likely. 4x5 maybe.

Gene
 
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Russ said:
The automobile did not kill the bicycle, just as television did not do away with the radio.

Russ
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the cd did away with the 8 track though.:)
 
Stu :) said:
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Hevean help Fuji if they kill off RVP (Velvia ISO50).

Stu :)

Stu,

Don't even talk like that! Love the Velvia, and other Fuji films. And the Fuji Neopan line of B/W films are fantastic, and cheap too. What happens when trying to record lightning with digital?

Russ
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There are still approximately 128 different films still being produced and with Nikon's brand new F-6 pro film camera being announced, we should have film as long as I live anyway.
As far as other things being "outdated", while you can't buy new 8-tracks, you can still play them. I even still play 78 RPM records on brand new turntables still being made today.
 
In sum, doom prophets got it all wrong. Besides, the rise of one medium doesn't mean necessarily the death of another, and examples of resurrections of this kind abound (as Gene said above, bicycles vs. cars, vinyl vs. CDs, theather vs. motion pictures, live orchestras vs. recordings). The only well known demises: Beta vs. VHS and the 8-track vs. casette tapes, but then, in these cases, it was a case of marketing.

At least, that's the case I see.

So, gentlemen, load your cameras! :D
 
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