The Eternal Ermanox: First with the fastest lens, but eclipsed by the Leica

The Ermanox: First with the fastest lens
It inspired the photojournalist movement but was eclipsed by the Leica

By Jason Schneider

In the first decades of the 20th century European press photographers relied on such cameras as the popular 13 x 18 cm (near as dammit 5 x 7) Contessa-Nettel Deckrullo, a folding strut plate camera with an open, military style, folding Newtonian viewfinder, a huge cloth focal plane shutter with speeds set using separate controls for slit width and spring tension, and a 21 cm f/4.5 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar lens. It was cumbersome but serviceable for handheld shooting outdoors in good light, but required a tripod for low light and indoor shooting—hardly surprising in an era when “superspeed” plates and film were rated at an equivalent of ISO 32. The world was ripe for a technological breakthrough and by 1925, E. Leitz Wetzlar brought forth the Leica, the camera that came to define contemporary photojournalism. However, a year before that momentous event, another great German company almost stole the Leica’s thunder by announcing a compact handheld camera with what was then the fastest lens in series production.

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Ermanox, original rigid body model of 1924, with landmark 10cm f/2 Ernostar lens designed by Ludwig Bertele.

In 1924, Ernemann-Werke AG of Dresden unleashed the Ermanox, essentially a “miniature” solid metal bodied, leather clad, iteration of the classic folding, focal-plane shutter press camera that took pictures on individual 4.5 x 6 cm class plates and had a giant 10cm f/2 Ernostar lens in a massive unit-focusing helical permanently affixed to its front. The new model created a sensation, and was soon adopted by pioneer photojournalist Dr. Erich Salomon, famous for his uncanny ability to capture surreptitious indoor pictures of the famous and infamous. Almost singlehandedly Salomon transformed the Ermonox from a fascinating (and expensive!) curiosity into the cult camera of emerging photojournalists and photo enthusiasts.

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The great Dr. Erich Salomon, pioneer of unposed photojournalism, with his beloved Ermanox. A Jew, he and his wife were murdered by the Nazis in Auschwitz in 1944

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Benito Mussolini (left) conferring with German diplomats. Photo by Salomon demonstrates his unique ability to discreetly capture authentic unposed moments even in "restricted" settings.


Alas, by 1931 the ingenious Ermanox, by then sold under Zeiss Ikon banner, had ceased production, vanquished by the all-conquering Leica, which was smaller, far better integrated, and infinitely more convenient to shoot with. By the time Leitz came out with the model II (or D), the first Leica with a built-in coupled rangefinder, in 1932, and released the 50mm f/2 Summar lens shortly thereafter the audacious Ermanox was already a dead letter. Indeed, even longtime Ermanox devotee Erich Salomon had abandoned it, switching to the Leica.

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Ernostar 10.5 cm f/1.8 lens of 1924, an advanced 6-element 4-group triplet derivative designed by Ludwig Bertele, inspired his later 50mm f/1.5 and f/2 Zeiss Sonnars.

The Ernostar

The groundbreaking lens on the original Ermanox was designed by Ludwig Bertele, one of the foremost lens designers of the 20th century, and the man responsible for creating the acclaimed 50mm f/1.5 and 50mm f/2 Zeiss Sonnar lenses for the Zeiss Contax of 1932. His 100mm f/2 Ernostar of 1923, equivalent to a 58mm in the full frame 35mm format, is an asymmetrical design, a highly evolved derivative of the Cooke triplet with an extra positive front group. In 1924, Bertele designed two improved, slightly faster versions, the 85mm f/1.8 Ernostar and 105mm f/1.8 Ernostar which were used on later rigid and strut type collapsible versions of the 4.5 x 6 cm Ermanox and on the Ermanox Reflex, a 4.5 x 6 cm waist-level viewing SLR based on the same basic design. There was also a 6.5 x 9cm strut-type folding Ermanox with a bellows and a huge 12.5 cm f/1.8 Ernostar lens, and 9 x 12 cm Ermanoxes in both Tropical (teak wood) and standard versions, each of which sported a humongous 16.5 cm f/1.8 Ernostar lens. These are all gorgeous, eminently collectible, and stratospherically priced, but they’re also grand dinosaurs of the pre-Leica/Contax era.

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Glorious limited edition Tropical Ermanox 9 x 12 cm collapsible strut camera shown with plate holders and unique lens cap sported a ginormous 16.5 cm f/1.8 Ernostar lens.

Ernemann-Werke was originally founded back in 1889 as a partnership between Heinrich Ernemann and photo dealer Wilhelm Matthias under the name Dresdner Photographische Apparate-Fabrik Ernemann & Matthias and they initially made wooden cameras such as the Globus. By 1891 Matthias had left the firm, and in 1896 Ernemann expanded the company, and moved it to Dresden in 1899 under the new name Heinrich Ernemann, Aktiengeselleschaft fur Cameraproduktion. The company produced an extensive inventory of high-quality photo equipment ranging from basic box cameras to precision folding cameras. In 1903, the company designed its first cine camera, and within 5 years its line of hand crank wooden movie cameras had expanded considerably. By the time Ernemann’s son Alexander joined the company as technical director, Ernemann had become the premier European cinematic company of the era, producing studio cameras, process cameras, projectors, and a variety of 17.5mm and 35mm equipment. One of its top sellers was the robust Impersonator projector, with 15,000 units produced from the time of its introduction in 1909 until it was discontinued in 1933.

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Fastest lens ever fitted to a 4.5 x 6 cm Ermanox? How about this stupendous 7 cm f/1.4 Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar. Did rigs like this inspire the later Night (Nacht) Exakta? Could be, and Ihagee founder Jan Steenbergen one worked for Ernemann. Hmmmm...

Ernemann had only 150 employees in 1904, but that ballooned to 1,400 over the next decade. In 1917 the company name was changed to Ernemann-Werke AG, and in 1923 the company relocated to its new official headquarters in Dresden-Streisen. The dire post WW I economy in Germany led to yet another great merger in 1926, this time with Carl Zeiss, Ica, Contessa-Nettel, and Ernemann coming together to form Zeiss Ikon AG. The once coveted Ermanox cameras could not compete with the superior design and functionality of the Leica or Zeiss Ikon’s newly released Contax, and they were officially discontinued in 1931 in the depth of the worldwide Great Depression.

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Ermanox Reflex: This waist level SLR 4.5 x 6 cm version had a flipping mirror, f/1.8 lens, and top-mounted viewing screen with a "chimney" type hood like an old Graflex.

The 4.5 x 6 cm Ermanox vs the Leica

When it was released in 1924 the original rigid bodied Ermanox had two major advantages over the upstart Leica I, model A of 1925. It had a much faster 100mm f/2 Ernostar lens vs. the 50mm f/3.5 Elmar on the Leica, and it provided a considerably larger format, nominally 45 x 60mm compared to the Leica’s 24 x 36mm. Its “superspeed” f/2 lens meant you could shoot handheld exposures indoors (like the Leica, its slowest timed speed was a (barely) hand-holdable 1/20 sec), and the larger format had the potential of yielding better quality enlargements on the grainy low-performance “superspeed” films of the day, which topped out at a blistering ISO 32 equivalent. By the late ‘20s you could order your Leica I with a one-stop-faster (permanently mounted) 50mm f.2.5 Hektor lens, but by them the Ermanox was sporing an 85mm or 105mm f/1.8 Ernostar lens so it was still winning the lens speed race by a comfortable margin.

The main problem with the Ermanox was that taking pictures was a slow and ponderous process. Even if you used it as a scale-focusing point-and shoot, as Erich Salomon often did, you would still have to cock the shutter, set the shutter speed using separate controls for slit width and spring tension, load an individual glass plate holder after removing the ground glass focusing screen, erect the folding military style optical viewfinder with crosshairs, estimate and set the shooting distance, pull the dark slide sheath, and press the shutter release. Needless to say, the depth of field when shooting at f/2 or f/1.8 is extremely limited so this technique will not work for close-ups, but it may suffice for subjects beyond 15 feet or so. The 1931 Ermanox manual contains a stern warning that “only glass plates should be used, not film packs” and “when purchasing extra dark slides, always state that they are intended for the Ermanox camera” because “the slides supplied with the camera have been carefully tested for accurate focussing.” Presumably third party 127 roll film adapters, which were available at the time, were also officially verboten.

“To obtain absolutely sharp pictures” the manual continues, you must use the focusing screen on the back of the camera, “which has a light hood that erects itself automatically on raising the cover held by a press-button catch.” This lets you focus precisely all right (a handheld magnifier is advised to aid focusing precision!), but first you have to set the shutter to “T” and open it to view the image on the ground glass, open the lens to maximum aperture, focus, close, cock and reset the shutter’s controls to the shutter speed you want, set the lens to shooting aperture (there’s not even a pre-set diaphragm), remove the focusing screen and replace it with a plate holder, pull the dark slide, and take the shot. To say that this is not ideal for handheld shooting is beyond overstatement, but it’s a procedure familiar to anyone who’s used a tripod-mounted 4 x 5 view camera. In addition to these charming inconveniences, remember that none of the Ermanox models featured interchangeable lenses, a feature fully realized in the Leica II (model D) and the Leica Standard (model E) of 1932.

While the Leicas of the 1920’s used Leica 35mm cassettes in place daylight loading cartridges (Kodak unveiled the modern “disposable” 35mm cartridge in 1935) they provided 36 exposures (actually, up to 40) per roll, featured automatic shutter cocking and frame counting as you wound the film to the next frame, and required no pesky plate holders. These features don’t sound too exciting by contemporary standards, but back in the ‘20s they were cutting edge. It’s also worth noting that Leica lenses have shorter focal lengths and greater depth of field than the corresponding Ernostars, and therefore yield better results when guesstimating distances with a scale focusing model like the Leica I or Leica Standard.

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Early Ernemann ad published in Milan, Italy describes and shows the Ermanox with 10 cm f.2 Ernostar without mentioning it by name.

Ermanox myths

One enduring Ermanox legend is that it was originally called Er-Nox or Ernox, and the name was changed to Ermanox shortly thereafter. While this is possible nobody so far has been able to come up with an ad or official catalog reference listing the name as Er-Nox. Undoubtedly Ernemann was a company capable of producing high-quality cameras but the focal plane shutters in Ermanoxes are hardly paragons of reliability and they’re delicate and devilishly difficult to repair. To be fair, the big two-curtain focal plane shutters in other German cameras made by great companies like Ica and Contessa-Nettel are also less reliable than the simpler more rugged ones (still using separate slit-width and spring tension adjustments) found in 4x5, 5x7, and 3-1/4 x 4-1/4 Graflexes of the same era. Score one for dear old Folmer & Schwing.

Note: I deliberately haven’t provided detailed descriptions of every iteration of Ermanox ever produced for reasons of space and obviating boredom. Aside from format and general configuration (rigid body, folding strut, or waist level SLR), the basic concept and features are quite similar. However, I’ve done something even better—included a plethora of pictures and captions which are a lot more informative and entertaining. If you hanker for an Ermanox in good nick I sure hope you have deep pockets. Here are a few sample asking prices currently listed at online auction sites:

1. Ernemann Ermanox Reflex (SLR) 4.5 x 6 cm with 10.5 cm f/1.8 Ernostar lens, “working in very good condition,” $5,223.55 plus $132.86 shipping
2. Ermanox 4.5 x 6 cm, rigid body with 8.5 cm f/1.8 Ernostar lens, with case, “excellent condition, works great.” $8.925.00 or best offer, plus $50.00 shipping.
3. Ermanox original 4.5 x 6 cm rigid body with 10 cm f/2 Ernostar, not tested, $3,276.00 or best offer, plus $50,00 shipping.
 
I wonder how many of us own an Ernemann camera? Vince Lupo's Ermanox is the one we all know, reading his travails and looking at the complex (for a box camera) design of my Film K, I do wonder if Ernemann were just too keen on engineering solutions then looking for the problem they were meant to solve? I can't help thinking they carried it over into Zeiss Ikon too, thinking of tbe Contax I.
 
I wonder how many of us own an Ernemann camera? Vince Lupo's Ermanox is the one we all know, reading his travails and looking at the complex (for a box camera) design of my Film K, I do wonder if Ernemann were just too keen on engineering solutions then looking for the problem they were meant to solve? I can't help thinking they carried it over into Zeiss Ikon too, thinking of tbe Contax I.
Ah you may now want to use the past tense, as I no longer have them (yes I had two). Both sold at the Leica Auction in Wetzlar in June. I’m glad I had a chance to own and use them but they were a bit of a money pit and they don’t command the same prices they used to. So really I got out before the value of them sunk any lower.

Now I concern myself with much more desirable and valuable cameras — Hasselblad 1000fs 🙄
 
Islandor ...

what lens mount is on your camera? standardized or no ?

can you provide a more readable pic of the engraved top plate ?
From the little I have been able to gather, this lens doesn't exist 🙂 The front ring says its an Ernar and marked DRP with a serial number 22358 and the aperture ring goes down to f3.5. Obviously the front ring and body of the lens are of different materials, aluminum and nickel so its probably a blend of 2 lenses? (R&D piecing together parts?) I measured the approximate distance from the rear lens element to the film plane (FFD) as ~5cm... It is not collapsible. The lens just screws into the ring and at the stop post it is at infinity, when threaded properly. The rangefinder is coupled and working fine and clear, though not accurate at the moment, probably due to my cleaning efforts. I do not have access to any books or websites to see where that lens serial number fits into Ernemann production, but it seems quite early (~1915–1918 according to Grok). The body serial number is: 1254039.

I've attached a few photos. Of note to me are 1) the reduced barrel length from the 8.5 or 10.5 Ermanox to reduce the focal length appears well done 2) the rear of the camera appears to have been cut down, with a different from normal arrangement and thickness 3) the engraved top plate looks 'factory' made and is slimmer than the ones on the standard Ermanox and looks perfect for the size needed on the rangefinder. 4) the screws on the backplate do not look 'factory' made and may be replacements?

I made some photos of the lens mounting system and the top plate for you as well as some alongside my normal 8.5cm Ermanox for comparison, see below.

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Benito Mussolini (left) conferring with German diplomats. Photo by Salomon demonstrates his unique ability to discreetly capture authentic unposed moments even in "restricted" settings.
The second person from the left might be Heinrich Bruening, German chancellor from 1930 to 1932.
Not sure if the second person from the right might be German foreign minister Julius Curtius.
 
I missed this thread when it was first posted ... Very interesting history of the Ermanox, thank you Jason! 😀

Hmm. A fixed lens, medium format camera with a fast lens ... Seems a bit like my Plaubel Makina 67, although the Makina format is about double the size of the Ermanox and the lens is only f/2.8, not f/2 or f/1.4. It's also a larger camera in use, and similarly not quick in the hand (although not as slow to focus and make settings due to the rangefinder and modern shutter/aperture settings...). On the other hand, it's quite nice to carry about and shoot with, the negatives are beautifully large and detailed, and the approximate 43mm FoV it provides a good all-around way to view the world for photos.

The Ermanox seems a lot more work to play with, which I assume is the enjoyable challenge that keeps Vince Lupo going. 🙂
Very interesting history and cameras ... thanks again!

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From the little I have been able to gather, this lens doesn't exist 🙂 The front ring says its an Ernar and marked DRP with a serial number 22358 and the aperture ring goes down to f3.5. Obviously the front ring and body of the lens are of different materials, aluminum and nickel so its probably a blend of 2 lenses? (R&D piecing together parts?) I measured the approximate distance from the rear lens element to the film plane (FFD) as ~5cm... It is not collapsible. The lens just screws into the ring and at the stop post it is at infinity, when threaded properly. The rangefinder is coupled and working fine and clear, though not accurate at the moment, probably due to my cleaning efforts. I do not have access to any books or websites to see where that lens serial number fits into Ernemann production, but it seems quite early (~1915–1918 according to Grok). The body serial number is: 1254039.

I've attached a few photos. Of note to me are 1) the reduced barrel length from the 8.5 or 10.5 Ermanox to reduce the focal length appears well done 2) the rear of the camera appears to have been cut down, with a different from normal arrangement and thickness 3) the engraved top plate looks 'factory' made and is slimmer than the ones on the standard Ermanox and looks perfect for the size needed on the rangefinder. 4) the screws on the backplate do not look 'factory' made and may be replacements?

I made some photos of the lens mounting system and the top plate for you as well as some alongside my normal 8.5cm Ermanox for comparison, see below.

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Hello, just came across this thread.
Well, I do not know a lot about Ermanox, always have been fascinated about this old camera - but that's it.
What do you think about the idea, that someone has had a lot of fun to merge the two concepts into a "Leicanox" or Ermeica"?
The Lens looks like an Elmar (Ernar?!), a rangerfinder added to the body, just like early Leica ... you see my point?

Just my impression -Thomas
 
Islandor: That is a fascinating camera you have. I can't even pretend to be an Ernemann expert but have always found them fascinating. I really enjoy thinking about the complex and interesting photographic history/ context of these cameras. Jason did a good job describing that context.

I would not be surprised to learn that your camera is a mature factory prototype that addressed a number of usage "issues" of the time. Please please please keep us informed of anything you learn about your camera.

So now the collector in me is super piqued and wants an example for my camera shelf. I doubt I would use it beyond the few times necessary to scratch the itch of curiosity to see if I could get cool images just like those great historical fellas (perhaps gals too?). Not likely to happen though....I have WAY too many photo gear obsessions... mostly lenses. Gotta be smart about your impulsive frivolous spending. Right?
 
Hello, just came across this thread.
Well, I do not know a lot about Ermanox, always have been fascinated about this old camera - but that's it.
What do you think about the idea, that someone has had a lot of fun to merge the two concepts into a "Leicanox" or Ermeica"?
The Lens looks like an Elmar (Ernar?!), a rangerfinder added to the body, just like early Leica ... you see my point?

Just my impression -Thomas
Not sure if Ernemann/Zeiss would have invested the time and effort for that, but you never know. I have a feeling this was some kind of home-brewed adaptation, not something done by Ernemann or Zeiss (I am definitely no expert!). The coupled rangefinder Leica came out in 1932, the same year as a Contax I. By that time the Ermanox had been officially out of production for six years. What I can say is what Peter Göllner told me, as evidenced by the other Ermanox I had:


Second Ermanox #1 by Vince Lupo, on Flickr


Two Ermanoxes by Vince Lupo, on Flickr

Peter figured that Zeiss had some Ermanoxes left over and in an effort to make them more relevant they added the Albada finder. Here again, this particular example of @Islandor's may have been something that Ernemann tried but never put into production (and with the advent of 35mm film for still photography they shelved the idea) or it may have been someone's personal project. Either way it's really nicely done.

BTW @Islandor the serial number of my camera above was 1254093, so about 1925. It's possible your camera body may have been originally intended for the 8.5cm lens -- Peter Göllner would have more insight than I ever could. One thing I can definitely say is that your camera would be a great candidate for the Leitz Photographica Auction!
 
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@Islandor I’d reach out to Peter Göllner regarding your Ermanox: ermanox@gmx.de
Thanks again Vince!

I received a very kind reply from Peter already, and I'll take his words as the final answer, a true gentleman with a wealth of information! Here are his thoughts on the camera, with his permission:

"Of course, I will try to help you as best I can. My English is very poor, so I am translating my German text into English using Deepl and hope that everything is understandable. I was not familiar with the forum, but I am very familiar with Vince Lupo. Since everything there is in English, it is not very interesting for me, as I would have to translate every text to understand it. I will reply to you directly in the email. If you think it would be of interest to others, you are welcome to use my text in the forum.

Your camera has been in my database since May 1998. It was a German collector who asked me questions` about it, just like you. The camera was originally a completely normal 1.8/85 Ermanox. I have the serial number immediately following it in my database and, with a very small gap, the one immediately preceding it. In my opinion, the modifications to the camera were carried out by a very skilled hobbyist. For whatever reason, an Ermanox body was fitted with other components. The rangefinder is not from Ernemann. Ernemann does have a patent for a double-image rangefinder (patent no. 431815), but it is for a barrel-type camera, such as the Heag. However, I don't know of any model in which this rangefinder was installed. The rangefinder installed here comes from another company and was used here. The lens with the name ERNAR is a lens from Ernemann that has been protected as a trademark since 1920. However, this designation was used in catalogs from 1915 to 1926. The ERNAR is a double anastigmat. I have attached an excerpt from the English catalog No. 1140A from June 1925. I do not believe the aperture is 3.5 or, as the collector wrote to me at the time, 3.6. As you can see in the catalog, the ERNAR was produced with an aperture of 6.3 and, for larger formats, 6.8. The lens barrel does not look like an Ernemann to me either. I don't know of any camera that looks like this or similar.

In my opinion, your camera is a very well-made piece of work by a mechanic who has assembled various components from other models or companies to create a new camera. It will be one of a kind and therefore very interesting for collectors.
I hope I have been able to help you."


So, it is not an Ernemann prototype, but whoever made it was a talented fellow indeed.

Thanks to all for your thoughts and help, Robert
 
BTW @Islandor the serial number of my camera above was 1254093, so about 1925. It's possible your camera body may have been originally intended for the 8.5cm lens -- Peter Göllner would have more insight than I ever could. One thing I can definitely say is that your camera would be a great candidate for the Leitz Photographica Auction!

Great looking Ermanox with the Albada finder, sorry to hear that you sold them but can understand your reasons. With the current demise of the boomer population (myself included) there are a lot of things coming onto the market by their heirs, with the resultant price declines. Add in the fear in markets due to the potential for real declines in living standards, the market for "luxury" items like collectibles may suffer even more. On the other hand, some cameras/lenses have been a bit of a hedge against real inflation... its a quandary. BTW, just saw your excellent Flickr page with your Ermanox, bravo! I wonder if you used the Rollex-Patent film back and what your thoughts are on it? I have one but have not yet tried it.

I did send the guys at Leitz Photographica Auction a message a couple of weeks ago, looking for information about the camera and to see if they had any interest. To date, no reply.

Thanks again, Robert
 
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Great looking Ermanox with the Albada finder, sorry to hear that you sold them but can understand your reasons. With the current demise of the boomer population (myself included) there are a lot of things coming onto the market by their heirs, with the resultant price declines. Add in the fear in markets due to the potential for real declines in living standards, the market for "luxury" items like collectibles may suffer even more. On the other hand, some cameras/lenses have been a bit of a hedge against real inflation... its a quandary. BTW, just saw your excellent Flickr page with your Ermanox, bravo! I wonder if you used the Rollex-Patent film back and what your thoughts are on it? I have one but have not yet tried it.

I did send the guys at Leitz Photographica Auction a message a couple of weeks ago, looking for information about the camera and to see if they had any interest. To date, no reply.

Thanks again, Robert
The best thing to do with the Leitz auction would be to wait until their next auction announcement (most likely early next year for their June auction) and apply to consign it. There’s a form you fill out and they ask for three photos of the camera. They’re good about replying.

Yes I used both of the Rollex-Patent backs I had as well as the 120 back that I modified to fit (that’s a whole other story!). I’d say that the 127 backs were ‘okay’. Not the highest quality backs, I wish there were better ones available which is why I tried to adapt a Graflex back (with some degree of success). The issues I had with the Rollex backs were numerous — light leaks, scratched film, torn film among others. And for ‘best’ results I had to use slower films like cut-down Ilford Pan F.

I bought these cameras to use as regular cameras but in the end it became just too much of a butt-pain and too expensive to get a few mediocre photos. I found that I could get much better are more reliable results with my Hasselblad 1000fs (and be able to use the CFV II 50 C digital back) than I ever could with the Ermanoxes, despite the fact that they were both overhauled by one of the few people around willing to work on them. So in the long run it wasn’t worth it.
 
Yes I used both of the Rollex-Patent backs I had as well as the 120 back that I modified to fit (that’s a whole other story!). I’d say that the 127 backs were ‘okay’. Not the highest quality backs, I wish there were better ones available which is why I tried to adapt a Graflex back (with some degree of success). The issues I had with the Rollex backs were numerous — light leaks, scratched film, torn film among others. And for ‘best’ results I had to use slower films like cut-down Ilford Pan F.

Thanks again Vince. I have a couple of the Rollex backs and some old Rerapan 100 127 so I'll probably give it a try someday after checking which one may be the best of the two. If the backs are OK may try some better 120 film to cut down, such as what you mentioned. And sure, there are many cameras easier to use and with better results for more regular use, but it should be fun to try it out, your Flickr page is inspiring 🙂 I had my standard Ermanox overhauled by a guy in Japan, with a new curtain, so it should be good to go, he is a master technician also.
 
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