The Excitement has died down...

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After having acquired 2 G1's the adapters and such I sold the whole bunch today.
G1 provides an ok IQ, not as good as a regular DSLR or M8 though, The G1 is small, lightweight and nice to carry around .... yes, but not as comfortable as an M8..

It doesn't seems to fit, to big for the one and to small for the other both in size and quality, and reckon that even with a Canon 50mm 1.2 it's top heavy and hard to handle.

I guess it was fun while it lasted and was new, but it's sort of dried up ....

I decided to sell now the prices are still reasonable.
 
My excitement has not dropped a bit .... I have the cine and nikon adapters on the way, a 12.5 and 25mm that I have never tried, and got what I consider to be some pretty good shots with the 15mm CV from the trip to enchanted rock.

This camera fills the gag the canon G9 never did. In fact, I'm really thinking about keeping the G1 ( film) and the G1 digital and letting the M6 go!

Dave
 
Probably I'm not as adventurous as you guys... I liked it but in terms of size and IQ found it in between a napkin and a tablecloth.

I went back to using my GRD-II, GX200 frequently. I found the G1 also to large to be an Always carry around camera and this is what I really want. 80% of my shots are with "always carry around cameras" and these are the shote I enjoy most.

I use my DSLR less and less (hardly actually) as for my M8.... in the process of selling it.

I actually have started a love affair with Ricoh.... I will also check out the new Fuji 200 whatever camera, I love small cameras....
 
JCdeR said:
After having acquired 2 G1's the adapters and such I sold the whole bunch today.
G1 provides an ok IQ, not as good as a regular DSLR or M8 though, The G1 is small, lightweight and nice to carry around .... yes, but not as comfortable as an M8..

It doesn't seems to fit, to big for the one and to small for the other both in size and quality, and reckon that even with a Canon 50mm 1.2 it's top heavy and hard to handle.

I guess it was fun while it lasted and was new, but it's sort of dried up ....

I decided to sell now the prices are still reasonable.
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I wish i knew you were selling it... I am actually looking for one set:eek:
 
So it turns out that you don't just want a smaller-than-slr camera. You want a camera small enough to put in a pocket and take everywhere.

This brings up an important point. There are two kind of people who care about camera size:

1) People who prefer small-ish cameras (G1, CL, Leicas, even OM) over bigger ones (MF cameras, Big Metal DSLRs, etc.). This is for reasons of weight, handling, noticability, etc.)

2) People who want a camera they can stick in a pocket and carry at all times (XA, Canon SDxxx, Ricohs, etc.). These people want the advantage of always having a camera available without the hassle of carrying it.

For people in group 2, anything that isn't pocketable might as well be as big as a full-sized DSLR.
 
well, while you can use M mount on it, the G1 is not a rangefinder so I never understood all the excitment around it on this forum.
 
Sam N said:
So it turns out that you don't just want a smaller-than-slr camera. You want a camera small enough to put in a pocket and take everywhere.

This brings up an important point. There are two kind of people who care about camera size:

1) People who prefer small-ish cameras (G1, CL, Leicas, even OM) over bigger ones (MF cameras, Big Metal DSLRs, etc.). This is for reasons of weight, handling, noticability, etc.)

2) People who want a camera they can stick in a pocket and carry at all times (XA, Canon SDxxx, Ricohs, etc.). These people want the advantage of always having a camera available without the hassle of carrying it.

For people in group 2, anything that isn't pocketable might as well be as big as a full-sized DSLR.
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Thats exactly what I mean ... I might as well take my DSLR if I have to carry it anyway, and the IQ will be better to, but I don't want that, it needs to fit in my inside pocket, or any pocket as a matter of fact. For me this is the only way to actually make images, I go to interesting places but can't turn up with cameras around my neck or in a camera bag, it needs to be discrete..... and I actually appreciate the small size of the GRD's
 
I find the G1 *very* discrete, and I can pack a whole army of lenses and the G1 in the same space as a D700 and a couple of lenses. I don't need it in my pocket, I need a light weight kit that no one pays any attention to when I'm trying to photograph.
 
All things related to digital image acquisition in the known and unknown universes suck. ;) Just a bit of Sunday morning silliness since we're stuck inside with a bad storm brewing in northern Vermont.
As I am still waiting for the adapters to arrive for my CV lenses I'm still exploring the G1. I thought initially I might sell my RD-1 but realize its signature is much too good to give up. In a recent email exchange with Steve Choi I asked him for his opinion regarding the longevity of the RD-1. He said like an old dog you love, hang on to it until it dies. A good view I now agree with. I’m wondering if keeping my E-420 is really necessary but I’ve gotten a lot of very good images from it so for now it will stay with me.
I’ve owned a Digilux 2 and 3. The lens on the “2” was incredible but there was a lot of noise to always contend with at high ISO settings. The “3” was O.K. but was just too big and not a lot better in the noise category.
So for what it’s worth I remain pretty happy with the G-1. This grab shot I got of my son studying the other day at the college where I teach makes me think that the G1 has some interesting capabilities. ISO 800, 1/20 second. So I think I just sit tight for a while and make some pictures when I can. Have a nice Sunday.
. . . Burkey
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While I'm very interested in the 4/3m format, the G1 to me is just a shrunk SLR. If it were not for great Nikkor and CV SLII glass it might give the D60 a run for it's money but I'm sticking fast. My GR-D I is perfect with a Black 28 Metal Viewfinder on the top, even in my pocket. It's a great first out camera and I can see the attractiveness of it, but I'm waiting for a 4/3M body that has me lusting for it. Even though the D60 is not quite at lust level, she is very close.

B2 (;->
 
I found the IQ does not improve with M mount lenses. As a matter of fact I was quite disappointed after acquiring the M mount adapter and using some Leitz, Zeiss, and CV glass. I thought I would be able to discern some differences. Various M mount glass I own and use on the M8 just makes the files "pop". Not so with the G1. I found the Panasonic lenses are best with this camera. Very vanilla files with this chip, but with some work, I can get what I'm after. I still do enjoy the camera, its size, quietness of the shutter, and convenience of zoom lenses, but it will never replace my M8.
 
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Burkey said:
All things related to digital image acquisition in the known and unknown universes suck. ;) Just a bit of Sunday morning silliness since we're stuck inside with a bad storm brewing in northern Vermont.
As I am still waiting for the adapters to arrive for my CV lenses I'm still exploring the G1. I thought initially I might sell my RD-1 but realize its signature is much too good to give up. In a recent email exchange with Steve Choi I asked him for his opinion regarding the longevity of the RD-1. He said like an old dog you love, hang on to it until it dies. A good view I now agree with. I’m wondering if keeping my E-420 is really necessary but I’ve gotten a lot of very good images from it so for now it will stay with me.
I’ve owned a Digilux 2 and 3. The lens on the “2” was incredible but there was a lot of noise to always contend with at high ISO settings. The “3” was O.K. but was just too big and not a lot better in the noise category.
So for what it’s worth I remain pretty happy with the G-1. This grab shot I got of my son studying the other day at the college where I teach makes me think that the G1 has some interesting capabilities. ISO 800, 1/20 second. So I think I just sit tight for a while and make some pictures when I can. Have a nice Sunday.
. . . Burkey
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Burkey,

Keep your RD-1, especially for using your CV lenses. The G1 can't replace it. It can only be thought of as an additional tool.

Cheers,

Keith
 
Keith, a good way to think of it. Thanks for adding your thoughts. Too many good images from the RD-1 and I really wouldn't want to find myself looking for another one later on.
. . . Burkey
 
Exactly the reason why I bought the canon G10 - a fantastic compact - no messing around with adaptors - really discreet - great controls. The only other cam which is interesting me is the DP2.

I'll keep my Leica lenses where they are best kept: On my M8

;-) ;-)
 
I don't know what it is about the G1 but I just have "fun" shooting with it, very pleased so far. Not a replacement for my M8, or for my GRD II or DP1 for that matter. For me it's really the potential that this camera represents, the application of technology to potentially enhance usability of many future cameras. Take the manual focus assist and "in viewfinder" live histograms, very slick.

Currently it makes a neat travel kit for someone who wants to have a very light body with a couple lenses covering the full usable range. I used it for a trip to LA last weekend and had a blast with it.

I look forward to their little pancake prime, should be neat.

Kent
 
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