The new Fuji ... are you buying new or will you wait and buy a used one later on?

[gavinlg]

Those flashes right above the lens like that are generally useless since the closer the lens is to the camera the worse red-eye is. They should have just left it off.

It's not only a flash, it's a flash commander. You can set up any number of wireless speedlight flashes and control them from the master inbuilt flash on the camera.

 

[bgb]

I've noticed that no matter how these X100 threads start they all end up the same!

Fuji need to get these things into people's hands so at least the praise and criticism can have some substance.

My thoughts exactly mate as I'm getting sick of waiting for a camera that could be affordable or maybe not & might be great or just ok.

No parent would put out presents under the Xmas tree in June .... so come on Fuji give us the camera already!

 

[DougFord]

I own a minolta cle that has the same relative dimensions as that of the x100. I rarely bring this camera with me as a carry everywhere camera due to its size.
I see the x100 as a possible digital alternative to my cle, but again, its use would be limited for 'special' occasions and not an everyday type of camera for me.
I might buy some sort of digital camera in '11 and this x100 is intriguing.
So maybe i'll buy new, but I'd wait months.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Maybe you would have prefered one of those lovely rotating flash cubes ... at least it would be true to form to satisfy the purist in you!

I always thought the Model 100 with its Pop-Up Flash using AG-1's was cool. I still have about 100 AG-1B's.

I had the Model 150, with a Spring-Motor. When I was 8.

 

[kuzano]

I enjoy these comments Nick.... very good

I enjoy these comments Nick.... very good

Samsung NX 10 with pancake lens... But for the price difference I'd go with the Fuji... I get what you're saying, and your intentions may be good? And I don't mean to dissuade you...

However, anything bigger than a Minox, or an XA, or a little modern compact digicam with a retractable lens? It will soon not be a "with you all the time camera..." It's too big. After the "new toy" novelty wears off, you'll use it as much as your DSLR. It will get use, but it won't be on your person at all times.

In order to do this, the camera has to be so small and light you are not conscious of it, forget it's there. And taking it with you wherever you go is as "subconscious" as grabbing your keys or your cell phone.

This will be your everyday camera for a few weeks at best...

Betchya...

In my case, I grab the case and attach it to my belt when I get dressed in the morning. I forget it's there, not aware of it. And yes, that means I had to swallow my pride, "give in" to digital, and shoot with a very "uncool" soccer mom silver small sensor digicam or Nikon "Coolpix".

There's a reason why similarly sized film cameras stay on my bureau every morning and used for "events" and when I feel like shooting them... It's the same reason so-called "compact" rangefinders got trounced by point-n-shoots...

Nobody carried a Yashica GX, Oly RC, or even a Trip with them at all times... It's why the XA was a break trhough. And people didn't always have a camera with them until the plastic fantastics came out - with all their concessions, in the 80's...

We've been down this road before... decades ago.

I find your comments ring true with my 40+ years of carrying cameras.

I do not find it necessarily true that camera size has much bearing on whether I carry a camera at all time, or not.

Rather the commitment to shoot whenever presented with a viable subject is the key. I purchased an Olympus E-PL2 to get down to "always carry" size, and just sold it after 6 months of ownership.... I was not carrying it any more than I carry a smallish DSLR. It certainly had all the attributes of this upcoming x100, including a sensor that I believe people will find outshoots the Fuji.

I have outshot, to my satisfaction, every APSC sensor I've come up against. In fact, I bought the 18Mp Canon T2i and kept it for 2 months, until I found I got better OOC images with the Olympus m4/3 sensor. I shot both of these cameras side by side for about a month and compared same images. In fact, my experience with a number of owned 4/3 DSLR, plus the micro has been that I have always acquired better images with corresponding MP 4/3 sensors compared to APS/c sensors. This with all Rebel models and a Nikon D80 I purchased.

Now let me say this. All my comparisons are OOC jpegs. I truly dislike and avoid Post Processing. It bothers me that digital cameras create images relying so much on the user to post process for final images. One of the reasons I still shoot film in Medium Format.

I used a pancake lens on the Oly, so the size should be similar to the new X100, which has NO alternative lens options.

Then, as you say it, I recognize that it has definitely "been there, done that" many times over the last many years.

Camera size is, for me, not a function of whether I alway have a camera with me. What is the decisive factor is the commitment to be ready to shoot at all times vs. the intent to go shooting on purpose.

BUT... to answer the point of this thread....NO. I probably will never own this camera, although I am a veteran and inveterate user of all of Fuji's big medium format cameras, including 3 currently owned Fuji 690's.

 

[kuzano]

Why the hurry?

Why the hurry?

I've noticed that no matter how these X100 threads start they all end up the same!

Fuji need to get these things into people's hands so at least the praise and criticism can have some substance.

Fuji has still not jerked us around nearly as long as they did for the GF670 folder. And that was a camera they had previously engineered (nearly) and produced many years before.

That being the case, I think they still have nearly a year to go on this "new" digital model???

 

[videogamemaker]

The release date is supposed to be March 31 of this year, so just about 2 months away.

 

[blazeicehockey]

shouldn't there be a 'no I don't want one' button?

 

[videogamemaker]

shouldn't there be a 'no I don't want one' button?

That wouldn't be informative at all. There are probably 6.something billion people that don't want one.

 

[Keith]

Not to mention the poll is actually only for people who do intend getting the camera ... new or used was the question!

 

[back alley]

omg! you mean this was a serious poll?

i'll have to delete my 'scratched x100' thread then!

 

[DNG]

With today's pricing.
Why buy a New camera at the introduction (for those of us who have to live on a budget), when in 6m-1y it will be 20%-30% lower new, and 40% lower used.
I guess you can tell how I voted.

 

[Keith]

omg! you mean this was a serious poll?

i'll have to delete my 'scratched x100' thread then!

Is anything really serious around here?


How could you possibly define a bunch of people hanging around their computers all day discussing cameras when they could actually be out doing something else ... as serious?

 

[hexiplex]

Wheres the "i wont buy one" button?

Next to the "don't submit reply" button perhaps?

As for the X100, I like the concept, I really do. But I don't think I can justify a purchase until prices have gone down a bit, or I can find one used a year or so down the line.

I have lots of fun with my film cameras and my GRD III, what I need to do is become more productive and inventive in using them. Or perhaps more structured and learn to initiate reportages and committing to them. An X100 won't help me with that, but 500$ of film and 500$ spent on a trip somewhere just might.

As for the possibilities of background separation possible (as discussed way earlier in the thread), even my GRD III with it's small sensor and wide lens can deliver pretty decent separation when it's close enough, and the close focus of 10cm that the X100 offers should be enough to surpass this "bokeh";

 

[Sonnar Brian]

I have a used Kodak Instamatic 100 if anyone is interested...Still in the Box.

And you could put in an Option for...

I Plan to buy one New, and sell it to Keith as soon as the interchangeable lens version comes out.

 

[shashinka-ichiban]

I normally buy every camera used. This time, I'm buying new. I can buy an SLR used, I could probably buy a Leica used, but I don't buy used point and shoots. Maybe because I boguht a CoolPix 5700 sued and it died three months later and had been deemed unserviceable and told to toss it out, and hence my opinion of P&S as unserviceable. So maybe my fear here is the X100 may fall under the same category. I foresee the X100 as my primary walking camera for when I'm not lugigng around the D3s' and big glass for work. If so the case, the X100 may get a lot of heavy daily use and hence would rather put all the miles on it from scratch rather than worrying it just just plop out on me in a few weeks after taking one in used.

 

[igi]

Buy used and enjoy last year's talk of the town

 

[jsrockit]

...but I don't buy used point and shoots. Maybe because I boguht a CoolPix 5700 sued and it died three months later and had been deemed unserviceable and told to toss it out, and hence my opinion of P&S as unserviceable. So maybe my fear here is the X100 may fall under the same category.

Well, it's not a point and shoot...and certainly is in a different category than the Coolpix. Why was the Coolpix unserviceable? That seems a bit much to me.