The new Leica csc camera chassis?

Well, Leica's joining the band wagon that's pretty good. I got to say I knew it wasn't
long because if you check out the Sony's A7 & A7r there pretty impressive cameras.

Range
 
Can't tell if it has an EVF or not - I'm guessing no, which would be a dealkiller for me. Not that I was in the market for it, anyways.
 
GaryLH said:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/new...s-aluminum-unibody-just-like-your-macbook-pro

Well the time is near for that Leica announcement. Here are some supposed pics of what the new camera chassis looks like for those who might be interested.

Gary
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So the fact that this Leica csc prototype? has an aluminum chassis is reason to bump the price above $3000? Lots of cameras have metal chassis that don't even come close to this, though they are very competent.

Sometimes I get a bit weary when people try to justify Leica prices based on features or build. The reason that Leica's cameras are so high priced has to do with the luxury premium, not because of actual build or features. Even though I accept that the Monochrom, ME and M240 are high priced because they are basically the only option in their market niche, that doesn't mean the price is justified because of the available features.

I do enjoy using my M9, but I certainly don't try to justify it because of any true value for the money spent. Using an M9 for most types of photography now days is a bit like using a bow and arrow for most types of hunting. It is certainly possible but most people consider it a waste of time.
 
Hm, the unibody is nice but I fail to see how this would be any different to something like a NEX or Fuji X with an M adapter - unless they stick a monochrome sensor in it (wishful thinking haha). I'm guessing there'll be a lineup of large aperture primes like Fuji.
 
I can't see any justification for a CSC costing so much when Olympus, Panasonic, Fujifilm and Sony already produce excellent cameras for a much lower price.
 
Pioneer said:
Sometimes I get a bit weary when people try to justify Leica prices based on features or build. The reason that Leica's cameras are so high priced has to do with the luxury premium, not because of actual build or features...I do enjoy using my M9, but I certainly don't try to justify it because of any true value for the money spent.
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amen. buy/use what you want for whatever reason you like. there is no need to justify ones subjective legal urges. it is exactly the 'justifications' that get folks in trouble. so heres how it should go: 'i bought because i wanted it/i like this or that about it. it costs what it costs and i could afford it/couldnt care less.' 'nuff said.
 
lcpr said:
Hm, the unibody is nice but I fail to see how this would be any different to something like a NEX or Fuji X with an M adapter - unless they stick a monochrome sensor in it (wishful thinking haha). I'm guessing there'll be a lineup of large aperture primes like Fuji.
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Well, if it's going to be backwards compatible with M mount via adapter, and there is no reason to not expect this, with it coming from Leica, it has to work properly with those lenses. So far, the only recent rangefinder lens optimized non-Leica camera was the GXR M module. All the NEX and other CSCs are compromises with such lenses (edge color shift and smearing - though some appear to exhibit less of it (smearing), until you compare them against the GXR).

Is it worth $3K to put Leica M glass on a cropped sensor? You can pretty much get an M9 for that, or an M8 for less. It will be interesting to see what the native lens options will be and whether any will be compelling.

The problem for me, though, is I don't foresee myself spending thousands on non-M compatible glass, in addition to my M collection. I'd rather put the money into that (and already have).
 
GaryLH said:
For me, just gonna sit on the sides and watch what develops.

Gary
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As will most of us I suppose. It will be interesting though. With the Ms, though technically they were behind the times, it really didn't matter since they were the only game in town. Once they step into the csc arena they are in a completely different, and very competitive, market. They were quite capable of building a very good and competitive medium format camera but whether that same success bleeds over into a csc camera is unknown.
 
At least the lenses will be inexpensive ... given that they are manufactured by Panasonic. It is a pity that I've already spent too much on my Fuji and Sony cameras.
 
Aluminum unibody - cool! I dropped my MBP last week, about a meter onto a corner. It suffered ... a little dent, and nothing else. Now I'm a believer.
 
Emile de Leon said:
Why so expensive..
There is unicorn piss...
In the metal..
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Considering the rebadge ugly looking Sony's that Hasselblad tried to pass off at ridiculous prices, I may never buy a Leica digital camera but I respect that they at least tried to some interesting things here.

For me, though I like Leica, I don't like it enough to spend the big bucks they ask for their stuff.

I wish Leica well.. On the otherhand, I am extremely disappointed with Hasselblad.

Gary
 
bwcolor said:
At least the lenses will be inexpensive ... given that they are manufactured by Panasonic. It is a pity that I've already spent too much on my Fuji and Sony cameras.
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There was a rumor about two weeks ago that it is a new Japanese partner since Panasonic is m43 and this is suppose to be apsc.

Gary
 
GaryLH said:
There was a rumor about two weeks ago that it is a new Japanese partner since Panasonic is m43 and this is suppose to be apsc.

Gary
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Panasonic is perfectly capable of manufacturing first rate lenses to Leica specs. They could even design the lenses to a high quality. So, nothing wrong with this partnership. If Leica did everything in house you could expect a backlog and no product.

Sony's A6000 and the Fujifilm X-T1 make this a tough market to break into on merit alone. So, the sensor had better be made of unobtainium.
 
GaryLH said:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/real-world-images-of-the-new-leica-t-and-first-lenses

Optional evf
23 and 18-56 kit.

I wonder if this is an in house design and farmed out manufacturing or all farmed out?
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The rumor at first was that Leica did the design and Panasonic was doing the manufacturing, but that's been changed recently to say that it's an in-house manufacture, similar to the X series models. As you say, lots more info tomorrow.

BTW:
I fail to understand the vitriol that people on the RangeFinder Forum spout whenever Leica (the ONLY current rangefinder manufacturer that's producing a digital rangefinder camera) announces a new product. If I were Leica and you were my customers, I'd think seriously about getting into a different business and telling you all to p*ss off. Who wants to listen to such bullpucky? If you can't afford it, wail and gnash your teeth about your poverty on your own dime. Really sick of hearing it...

G
 
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