James1
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Fresh, properly exposed and developed film this time. Vuescan, 5300dpi, RAW output, Green channel only, inverted in ColorPerfect.
Olympus 35RC, APX100, Orwo R09 1+40:
Olympus 35RC, APX100, Orwo R09 1+40:

smilem
Established
Where are you located?
conrad.de seems to offer a good price.
Scandig == filmscannerinfo and they are pretty negative about the scanner and do not respond to mails about their review.
I would think that you can scan these, as it has a holder for framed slides. I'd be surprised if the reflecta ones wouldn't fit.
I'm from Poland, so buying from Germany is fine. Conrad seems to have free shipping.
So can somebody answer if AN glass 35mm frames work?
Also what about color calibration, is there IT8 target included with the scanner or do I need to buy one? Furthermore working with Vuescan RAW -> Colorpefect makes me wonder if color calibration is needed at all.
kanzlr
Hexaneur
there is an IT8 Target included, yes. You can calibrate the scanner with Silverfast and Vuescan.
smilem
Established
there is an IT8 Target included, yes. You can calibrate the scanner with Silverfast and Vuescan.
For what film type kodak,jufi etc. is the included target?
Vuescan RAW -> Colorpefect makes me wonder if color calibration is needed at all. Since custom presets are needed anyway?
kanzlr
Hexaneur
you want to have a color corrected scan, no matter what you do with the output.
and it makes no difference what Target it is, as long as you have the file to compare it to.
it really is just there to compare the scanners real colors with reference data.
and it makes no difference what Target it is, as long as you have the file to compare it to.
it really is just there to compare the scanners real colors with reference data.
smilem
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you want to have a color corrected scan, no matter what you do with the output.
and it makes no difference what Target it is, as long as you have the file to compare it to.
Yes I do.
it really is just there to compare the scanners real colors with reference data.
Why then I see a bunch of targets for every film, well not every but for
kodak, fuji, kodachrome etc. targets.coloraid.de
smilem
Established
The AN glass 35mm slide holders are 3.2mm thick
https://reflecta.de/de/products/detail/~id.68/reflecta-GL-AN-Diarahmen-100-Stueck.html
the other holders by reflecta are 1.8mm thick
https://reflecta.de/de/products/detail/~id.64/reflecta-CS-2-CAM-Diarahmen-100-Stueck.html
Can somebody explain how the lens can have such a wide working distance?
I calculated a 0.6mm focal plane distance difference for 1.8 and 3.2mm slide mounts, if you add the thing that film can't be super flat, that means about 0.8mm.
Given such a wide lens working distance there should be no need to glass mount anything, but as all know first batch had a bad focus, so I think they were very badly adjusted as working distance is supposedly so large.
So can anyone try any glass mounts, I would not like to spend my money just to make sure they do not work or are not required whatever warped the film is. I don't know why Plustek have no specifications what mounts work and what do not.
Furthermore you can get 6x6 or whatever glass mounts too, why there are no holders for such slides?
https://reflecta.de/de/products/detail/~id.68/reflecta-GL-AN-Diarahmen-100-Stueck.html
the other holders by reflecta are 1.8mm thick
https://reflecta.de/de/products/detail/~id.64/reflecta-CS-2-CAM-Diarahmen-100-Stueck.html
Can somebody explain how the lens can have such a wide working distance?
I calculated a 0.6mm focal plane distance difference for 1.8 and 3.2mm slide mounts, if you add the thing that film can't be super flat, that means about 0.8mm.
Given such a wide lens working distance there should be no need to glass mount anything, but as all know first batch had a bad focus, so I think they were very badly adjusted as working distance is supposedly so large.
So can anyone try any glass mounts, I would not like to spend my money just to make sure they do not work or are not required whatever warped the film is. I don't know why Plustek have no specifications what mounts work and what do not.
Furthermore you can get 6x6 or whatever glass mounts too, why there are no holders for such slides?
stormy_weather
Member
The Plustek slide holder tries to center the slide mounts via Y shaped sides, so that the (assumed) plane in which the slide sits is, in focus - ideally.
I have done a test run with a slide whose position I have varied by adding pieces of adhesive tape (and scanning after each added piece of tape).
Nothing really scientific, just my attempt to understand and verify the Plustek claim that there is such a large depth of field that the scanner doesn't need an autofocus.
I am not sure I have posted this here before: http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=24753&start=0
Images 1-11 are from this test. My conclusion is that the scanner indeed has some depth of field, but not much. If your film buckles in the holder, it will probably not be scanned in the optimal plane of focus. If it lies flat, don't worry.
Regards,
Sven
I have done a test run with a slide whose position I have varied by adding pieces of adhesive tape (and scanning after each added piece of tape).
Nothing really scientific, just my attempt to understand and verify the Plustek claim that there is such a large depth of field that the scanner doesn't need an autofocus.
I am not sure I have posted this here before: http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=24753&start=0
Images 1-11 are from this test. My conclusion is that the scanner indeed has some depth of field, but not much. If your film buckles in the holder, it will probably not be scanned in the optimal plane of focus. If it lies flat, don't worry.
Regards,
Sven
kanzlr
Hexaneur
Why then I see a bunch of targets for every film, well not every but for
kodak, fuji, kodachrome etc. targets.coloraid.de
because you can use any film you want, mostly. You just want a testimage to verify the scanner against.
smilem
Established
I am not sure I have posted this here before: http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic....=24753&start=0
Good test, however why there are no images in focus? They all out of focust, haven't you had a position that is normal during the test?
wakarimasen
Well-known
Leica IIIa / Elmar 5cm, Orwo UN54, Calbe R09 stand - overdeveloped, and one of the few times I tried stand development:
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Is that Mousehole?

Is that Mousehole?
James1
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stormy_weather
Member
Good test, however why there are no images in focus? They all out of focust, haven't you had a position that is normal during the test?
Your are kidding, or whatever...
These are 100% crops of 10600 DPI scans from a 35mm slide, taken under pretty well controlled circumstances. This is as good as 35mm slides can get, more or less, and even the very best Hasselblad or drum scanners did not extract significantly more detail (http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23215).
Regards,
Sven
mob81
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Fuji Klasse S and Superia 400

Plustek7Nov015 by Mohammed Basamh, on Flickr

Plustek7Nov012 by Mohammed Basamh, on Flickr

Plustek7Nov015 by Mohammed Basamh, on Flickr

Plustek7Nov012 by Mohammed Basamh, on Flickr
mob81
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smilem
Established
Good test, however why there are no images in focus? They all out of focust, haven't you had a position that is normal during the test?
How then Polaroid Sprint Scan 120 scan are so sharp? compared to all others and especially to plustek 120?
kanzlr
Hexaneur
dont compare 100% crops from different resolutions. The Plustek Shot was shown at 10600 dpi, Sprint Scan outputs 4000 dpi.
one should upsample the Sprintscan to 10600 dpi size to judge which scanner extracts more details from the slide.
one should upsample the Sprintscan to 10600 dpi size to judge which scanner extracts more details from the slide.
kanzlr
Hexaneur
smilem
Established
very good quality ! can somebody post vuescan raw file, I would like to experiment with cf colorperfect to see how it works. Thanks.
smilem
Established
It seems conrad.de does not ship outside Germany:
"Dear customer, an order as a foreign customer is on conrad.de not possible.
Please order on conrad.com:"
And conrad.com does not accept credit card, or paypal. Stupid if you ask me, seems like German companies are living in stone age, I always have problems buying from germany because:
a: it's impossible to find a seller that has web shop
b: if you find one, they do not accept credit cards or paypal
What about Jacob Electronik ?
http://direkt.jacob-computer.de/_artnr_1388168.html?ref=103
"Dear customer, an order as a foreign customer is on conrad.de not possible.
Please order on conrad.com:"
And conrad.com does not accept credit card, or paypal. Stupid if you ask me, seems like German companies are living in stone age, I always have problems buying from germany because:
a: it's impossible to find a seller that has web shop
b: if you find one, they do not accept credit cards or paypal
What about Jacob Electronik ?
http://direkt.jacob-computer.de/_artnr_1388168.html?ref=103
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