The Pixii Max: The first real competitor to the Leica digital M’s!

The Pixii Max: The first real competitor to the Leica digital M’s

Adding a full frame sensor and matching range/viewfinder ups the ante!

By Jason Schneider

The French have a penchant for doing things their own way, especially when it comes to designing cameras. Examples of their defiantly idiosyncratic approach include the long-running Foca line of un-Leica-like interchangeable lens rangefinder 35s and the extensive range of spartan yet sophisticated Semflex 6x6 cm twin lens reflexes. All these beautifully made, high-performance cameras were fitted with superb French-made optics. It’s therefore hardly surprising that when Pixii (PIXII SAS), a French company located Besançon France unveiled its first digital M-mount rangefinder camera in 2017, it bore scant resemblance to the legendary digital Leica M’s that inspired it. Like all subsequent Pixii models, including the new top-of the-line full frame Pixii Max, the original 2017 Pixii A1112 has an optical multi-frame range/viewfinder, no LCD (it relies on a Wi-Fi-connected smartphone for reviewing captured images), and no memory card slot (it was available with a choice if 8GB or 32GB of internal storage). It also had an 11MP APS-C-format CMOS sensor, LED-illuminated frame lines, and a “dual block machined aluminum alloy” body with a compact “moderately modern” form factor that has been retained on all subsequent models.

Top view of Space Grat Pixii  Max with connected iPhone displaying a captured DNGi file image....jpg
Top view of Space Grat Pixii Max with connected iPhone displaying a captured DNG image. Camera is set for "M," metered manual mode.

The original Pixii A11i2 was succeeded in 2021 by the upgraded Pixii A1571 with a 26MP APS-C CMOS sensor, and in 2023 by the Pixii A2572, which incorporated the same sensor and added a 64-bit processor. Later in 2023 the company brought forth the Pixii+ (aka Pixii A2572+), which uses the same 26MP APS-C CMOS sensor and 64-bit processor but extended the rangefinder base length for more precise focusing. It is noteworthy that all these APS-C-format models are factory upgradable t by swapping out the image processor, the range/viewfinder unit or the range/viewfinder and the sensor, a remarkable achievement that’s unique to the Pixii line and a boon for Pixii owners. No complete price list for these upgrades is currently accessible online but upgrading a late model APS-C Pixii+ to full frame Pixii Max specs (which entails swapping out the range/viewfinder and the sensor) currently runs Є 1,499.00 plus tax. While that’s not cheap, upgrading a Pixii still costs a lot less than purchasing a new one.

According to a 2021 review posted by the sensor- and lens-test portal dxomark.com, the Pixxi sensor was the only APS-C sensor that delivered virtually noiseless images at ISO 1600, thus establishing it as the benchmark in the APS-C format camera sector. The Pixii’s optical viewfinder is an inversed Galilean type with LED-illuminated frame lines, integrated with a classic optical rangefinder employing an optical prism, and including additional in-finder display of exposure parameters, etc.

Several camera functions typically built into digital cameras are “outsourced” out of the Pixii camera (all models) and into a smartphone app. Images stored in the internal memory are transferred via a Bluetooth 5 wireless connection, then stored in the smartphone and displayed on the phone’s touch screen or downoaded onto a USB-C flash drive to free up space. This makes Pixii cameras noticeably smaller and lighter than comparable Leica M’s and provides a more “analog” shooting experience by “separating” picture taking and image evaluation, but you do have to carry and connect your smartphone to view and offload image files, and for some users that’s a deal breaker.

Pixii Max in Matte Black top view held in hands, showing ergonomic form factor and well placed...jpg
Pixii Max in Matte Black top view, held in hands, showing ergonomic form factor and well placed controls. Top LCD panel shows camera is set for "A" autoexposure mode and camera selected "proper exposure" shutter speed if 1/125 sec when lens is set at a tad past f/4 .

Pixii camera intro imeline

Camera modellaunchMegapixelsSensor
format
Lens Mt.Remarks
Pixii A1112201711APS-CLeica
M
Pixii A1571202126APS-CLeica
M
upgradeable to Pixii

A2572 by exchange of processor
Pixii A2572202326APS-CLeica
M
64-Bit processor, upgradeable to Pixii+ by rangefinder exchange
Pixii+ (or Pixii A2572+)2023 (?)26APS-CLeica
M
Extended rangefinder base length
Pixii Max20242435mm
Full frame
Leica
M
earlier APS-C models are upgrade-able with the Pixii Max's full-frame 24.5MP BSI-CMOS sensor

Pixii Max in Space Gray, front view showing 4-lug M-mount and full frame24.5MP CMOS sensor.jpeg
Pixii Max in Space Gray, front view showing 4-lug M-mount and full frame24.5MP CMOS sensor. Note classic Leica M style neck strap lugs.

Front view of Pixii Max in Matte Black. Note rounded end  of rangefinder coupling arm inboard ...jpg
Front view of Pixii Max in Matte Black. Note Leica M style rounded end rangefinder coupling arm inboard of the nicely crafted M-mount.

The new Pixii Max: Pixii’s first full frame digital rangefinder camera, the recently released Pixii Max, is the French digital rangefinder company's fifth model and its first full-frame camera. Its 24 x 36mm 24.5MP BSI CMOS sensor is built into the same compact, machined aluminum body as the previous APS-C-sensor models and it includes the latest refinements, a newly developed 64-bit processor, a choice of 32GB or 128GB of internal memory for storage, and of course its signature feature, a Leica M-compatible lens mount. The first real competitor to the legendary (and pricey!) Leica M11, the Pixii Max delivers state-of-the-art digital imaging performance and something akin to the traditional analog shooting experience since reviewing captured images is a separate operation requiring a Wi-Fi-connected smartphone.

Full-Frame Sensor, 64-Bit Processor

The new, full-frame 24.5MP BSI CMOS sensor is the defining feature of the new camera, which, in conjunction with its advanced 64-bit processor first released in 2023, provides extremely sharp imaging with extremely low noise (to about ISO 6400) and a much wider dynamic range. Its 24 x 36mm sensor size corresponds precisely with the size of 35mm film format, maximizing its light-gathering capacity and allowing the complete range of Leica M-mount lenses to be used to their full potential with put any multiplication factor. This is particularly important with wide-angle that can now be used without any “effective focal length” restrictions. The Pixii’s full frame sensor design also allows the camera to produce native DNG RAW images in both color and monochrome, the latter paralleling (but not quite equaling) the $9,045.00 black-and-white Leica M 11 Monochrom.

Wide-Angle Optical Viewfinder

The Pixii Max's upgraded optical viewfinder now sports a 28mm, wide-angle field of view, with backlit LED frame lines for standard 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, and 75mm prime lenses. Fabricated of high refractive index optical glass with multicoated, antireflective surfaces, the 0.67x viewfinder displays real-time controls and indicators inside the OVF for a more convenient and intuitive shooting experience. The full range of settings is viewable and selectable on a small top-mounted LCD panel. Surprisingly, specifications for the actual and effective base lengths of the Max’s rangefinder are not posted on the Pixii website, listed in the user manual, or posted anywhere on the internet. However, we were able to find a straight-on picture of the Pixxi Max with callouts showing the distance between both side-mounted neck strap lugs as 138mm. By comparing that distance to the measured distance between the centers of the front viewfinder and rangefinder windows in the photo, we were able to determine, with reasonable accuracy, that the Max’s actual rangefinder base is 60mm. And by multiplying 60 by the finder magnification of 0.67, we calculate the effective base length (EBL) to be 40.2mm. That compares to the Leica M11’s actual base length of 69.31mm and viewfinder magnification of 0.73x) for an EBL of 50.6. For comparison the old analog Leica CL of 1973 has an EBL of only 18.9mm (31.5 actual base length times a viewfinder magnification of 0.6x), rendering it marginal in terms of focusing accuracy with super speed normal lenses and fast moderate telephotos.. Conclusions: The Pixii Max rangefinder is more than adequate for focusing prime lenses in the 28mm to 50 mm range (though perhaps not the 75mm f/1.25 Noctilux). The Leica M11 ($9,195.00 in black or chrome) provides greater focusing precision but the Pixii Max scores on its illuminated LED frame lines (which compensate for parallax and adjust in brightness depending on the ambient light and remain visible in any light), and its more comprehensive in-finder readouts, The M11 range/viewfinder scores on its more precisely defined rangefinder patch, which can be used as a split image rangefinder to substantially increase focusing precision, and its auto-indexing, transilluminated, parallax compensating frame lines, displayed in pairs, that cover covering focal lengths of 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm, 90mm and 135mm.

Viewfinder and OLED LCD diagrams of Pixii Max from manual. Note that the outer frame lins defi...jpg
Viewfinder and OLED LCD diagrams of Pixii Max from manual. Note that the outer frame lines defining the 28mm field are fixed,

Page from Pixii Max manual showing averaging, center weighted, and spot metering options..jpg
Page from Pixii Max manual showing averaging, center weighted, and spot metering options.

Front view diagram of Pixii Max showing all major components..jpg
Front view diagram of Pixii Max showing all major components. Changing lenses is easy and the camera accepts adapted screw-mount lenses.

Lenses and Focusing

Like all cameras with coupled optical rangefinders, the Pixii Max provides a traditional manual focusing experience. The focus rings or tabs on M-mount rangefinder lenses (Leica or third party) control a small lever inboard of the lens mount. You turn the focusing control until the stationary image and the moving image in the center of the viewfinder field coincide—that is, merge into a single image of the object you’re focusing on. That’s why it’s called a coincident-type rangefinder, and also a coupled rangefinder because it’s mechanically linked to the distance setting of a mounted lens. This utterly analog focusing method yields more accurate results, especially when shooting with shorter focal length lenses and in low-light situations when focusing on a traditional “ground glass” screen is a lot more challenging. In general, with cameras using this system the aperture of the lens must be controlled via the lens itself and not automatically through the camera. That’s why autoexposure rangefinder cameras like the late lamented Leica M7, the current M11, and the new Pixii Max only provide aperture priority AE and metered manual exposure modes, not shutter priority or programmed autoexposure.

Body build and form factor

Remarkably, the Pixii Max is a mere one ounce heavier than the same sized Pixii+. Weighing in at 1.1 pounds, the Pixii Max employs the same machined-aluminum chassis and svelte minimalist body design as its predecessors. It nestles in the hands very comfortably, is nicely balanced with virtually and any short to moderate tele M-mount lens, and after a brief period of familiarization its controls “fall readily to hand” as the Brits say. A top OLED screen displays the camera's current settings, including the manual shutter speed controlled by the camera body’s sole dial, and access to the full settings menu. The menu and most current settings including manual metering indicators are also shown in the optical viewfinder—a great feature that contributes to the camera’s “eyelevel” responsiveness. The max also features a cold shoe for mounting accessories (but no accommodations for flash), a robust standard 1/4"-20 tripod socket on the bottom, a USB-C port for both power and data transfer, and sturdy lugs for attaching a carrying strap that look like they were swiped from a Leica M of the ‘50s. Do you love the “post-modern, softly linear” form factor of the Pixii Max? It has certain spartan elegance but as the French say, “Chacun à son goût.”

Diagram of back of Pixii Max from manual showing features and finctions..jpg
Diagram of back of Pixii Max from manual with callouts describing all features and functions.

The Pixii Mav Support System

The Pixii Max features both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity for the Pixii App, which allows you to control the camera remotely, preview images while shooting, and transfer and store images saved to the camera's internal memory via a connected smartphone. As mentioned Pixii also lets you access an open-ended upgrade system for both software and hardware, that lets you “future proof” your investment by upgrading your camera with an extensive portfolio of future advancements and innovations that may well take your present Pixii to unimaginable new levels of performance and capabilities. Perhaps other digital camera companies will be inspired to follow Pixii’s lead but for now this small, innovative, and idiosyncratic French company is the only one to provide a useful measure of non-obsolescence.

Diagram of bottom of Pixii Max with callouts from manual.jpg
Diagram of bottom of Pixii Max with callouts, from the manual. Battery is easy to change, and unique "anti-slip sole" provides a firmer grip.

The economics of owning a Pixii

The new Pixii Max body is currently priced in the U.S. at $4,799.00 in Matte Black or Space Gray with 128GB of internal memory, and $4,499.00 with 32GB of internal memory. The Leica M11 in black is priced at $8,995.00 with 64GB of internal and the Leica M11-P with 256GB if internal memory is priced at $9,195.00. Both Leicas have 60MP BSI CMOS sensors, 2.95" 2.3m-Dot Touchscreen LCDs, SD card slots, and can shoot bursts at up to 4.5 fps (a lot faster than the Pixii’s 1 fps). But the Pixii Max is upgradeable and, except for software updates, the Leica M11 is not. Another thing to consider is battery power. The Pixii’s NP-FW50 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion, 7.2 VDC, 1080 mAh battery is sufficient for only about 250 exposures so it’s a good idea to carry a few extra fully charged batteries if you plan to shoot more—equivalents of roughly the same capacity are readily available at prices ranging from about $14 to $60 apiece.

What about a used Leica M10?

Prices for used standard issue Leica M10s in pristine condition currently range from about $4,500.00 to $5,000.00 or roughly the same price as the Pixii Max with 128GB storage capacity. The M10 has a full frame 24MP CMOS sensor, can shoot bursts at up to 5fps, and has the classic form factor and feel of a Leica M because it is one! It’s also somewhat larger and noticeably heavier than the Pixii Max. In short, a used M10 is a viable option, especially for diehard Leica fans, but it’s not a new camera and (except for software) it’s not factory upgradeable.

What about resale value?

In general M-series Leicas, even digital models going back to the M8 and M8.2, hold their value very well. Based on the scant data we have, used Pixii cameras seen to retain their value better than “the average digital camera,” but more data are needed to confirm this trend.

Unpacking the Pixii Max: What’s in the box?

  • Pixii Max Digital Rangefinder Camera (128GB, Matte Black or Space Gray)
  • Standard Eyepiece
  • NP-FW50 Battery
  • USB-A to USB-C Cable
  • Limited 2-Year Manufacturer Warranty
Final thoughts

The fifth generation Pixii Max may not be everything to everybody and it’s defiantly idiosyncratic, but it’s also beautifully made, has an excellent range/viewfinder that, in some respects (e.g. LCD frame lines and impressive in-finder readouts) surpasses the vaunted Leica M. Its controls are logical, easily accessible, and ergonomically placed, its handling and balance are topnotch, and it delivers outstanding image quality. It falls short in battery capacity, framing rate, and the speed of transferring images from the internal memory. And a substantial percentage of potential buyers are turned off by its lack of an LCD touchscreen or memory card slot. Nevertheless, it’s a stunning achievement and worthy of consideration by anyone who hankers for a high-performance digital M-mount rangefinder camera that isn’t a Leica. In the immortal words of Burger King, “Try it, you’ll like it!”



Pixii Max Specs



Lens MountLeica M
Sensor ResolutionEffective: 24.5 Megapixel (6064 x 4040 pixels)
Image SensorFull-Frame BSI CMOS
ISO Sensitivity Range100 to 25,600
Internal Recording ModesNo
External Recording ModesNo
Power I/O1x USB-C Input/Output
Other I/O1x USB-C Data (Shared with Power Input)
WirelessWi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
Battery Type1x NP-FW50 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion, 7.2 VDC,
1080 mAh


Imaging

Lens MountLeica M
Sensor ResolutionEffective: 24.5 Megapixel (6064 x 4040)
Image SensorFull-Frame BSI CMOS
Sensor Crop (35mm Equivalent)Crop Factor: 1x
Built-In ND FilterNo
Capture TypeStill Only
Exposure Control



ISO Sensitivity Range100 to 25,600
Metering MethodAverage, Center-Weighted Average, Spot
Exposure ModesAuto, Manual
White BalancePresets: Cloudy, Daylight, Fluorescent, Incandescent,
Shade
Still image capture

Image Sizes3:2 DNG / JPEG
26 MP (6244 x 4168)
Aspect Ratio3:2
Image File FormatDNG, JPEG
Bit Depth14-Bit
Internal Recording ModesNo
External Recording ModesNo
Recording LimitNo
IP StreamingNo


Interface

Internal Memory128 GB
Power I/O1x USB-C Input/Output
Other I/O1x USB-C Data (Shared with Power Input)
WirelessWi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
Mobile App CompatibleYes: Android & iOS
App Name: Pixii App
Functionality: Access Stored Files, Firmware Update, Remote Control, View Live Feed
Global Positioning (GPS, GLONASS, etc.)GPS
*Via Connected Smartphone
Monitor

Secondary DisplayTop: OLED Status Display
Viewfinder

TypeOptical
Coverage100%
MagnificationApprox. 0.67x
Focus

Focus TypeManual Focus Only
Focus ModeManual Focus


Built-In Flash/LightNo


General



Battery Type1x NP-FW50 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion, 7.2 VDC, 1080 mAh
PoE SupportYes
Shoe Mount1x Cold Shoe
Tripod Mounting Thread1x 1/4"-20 Female (Bottom)
Material of ConstructionAluminum
Dimensions (W x H x D)5.4 x 3.1 x 1.3" / 138 x 79 x 33 mm
Weight1.1 lb. / 480 g (With Battery)


Positive Features

Built-in Wireless (Wi-fi)
Bluetooth Connectivity
Optical Built-in Viewfinder
24.5MP - High Resolution Sensor
25.600 Max ISO
1/32000s High Shutter Speed
1/32000s Electronic Shutter Speed
480g Light Body
32GB,64GB,128GB,256GB Internal Storage
Top LCD Display
Flash Sync Port
Remote control with a smartphone


Negative Features

No Rear LCD Screen
No Sensor shift Image Stabilization
No Full HD Video
No Face Detection Focusing
Slow Continuous Shooting: 1.0fps
Low Battery Life: 250 shots
No Environmental Sealing

No mechanical or global shutter
 
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IF (for me a big if) I could come up with the $5, I'd be willing to go for the Max since it is full frame and there is the USB cable download option.

I am still much more likely to end up with a Nikon Z when my M 240 goes south but it's nice to have an M mount option that might actually be affordable by a mere mortal with a handfull of lenses.

I rather think you meant $5K (= $5000) and not $5. If the latter was the case then I would buy at least 100 of the little beauties.

As for us down here, with our Kangaroo Kopek aka South Pacific Peso (= AUD $), $5K in Yankee dollars is more like $8000 and on a bad exchange day - the Ozbuck changes in value almost every day - even more.

If it's ordered from Europe the price will likely be in Euros. At nearly AUD $2-1 Euro with our sadly Third World dollar.

Then the dealer markup, sometimes +/- AUD $1000 or even more for the dealer's 'privilege' of ordering it for a customer. Not to forget the time factor as I doubt thee are any 'Pixies' (oops) in stock in Australia. So shipping from France or the USA would be the go.

For all that, this camera has certainly generated a lot of interesting discussion, and some good comments. Which is what I expect from most posters on RFF.
 
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The USB-C download option is listed in the posted specs. I can relate to your passion for vintage lenses, but it’s kind of a non sequitur when evaluating the economics of acquiring (or not) a Pixii Max.
Made me remember that I paid for the M9 and M Monochrom by selling off a few old camera lenses, mostly CZJ 5cm F1.5 and 5cm F2 Sonnars that I converted to Leica mount.

The "Built in Storage" in place of the more traditional removable Cards: made me think of the Sandisk SD card disaster. Sandisk ignored the standards, produced a card that causes problem with the M9. It also caused problems with my Olympus EP2 and M8, and Windows computer. It was not compatible with the Format utility from the SDCARD.ORG site that should work with all SD cards. Much easier to select a non-volatile memory module for integration into the camera rather than test cards from all manufacturers to see how each of them behaves in the camera.

Ahh, "Memories"...
 
I recently ran across an interesting woman on a dating app. Now at 84 I need a new relationship as much as a hog needs roller skates. And as I wrote her, there is a long list of reasons not to write her. But there were two good reasons to write her: she is quite intelligent and quite attractive. And then there is the perennial, "I do not want to be bidding my final goodbyes thinking, I really should have, . . . " The Pixii may have reasons not to have it. It has reasons to have it: good images so far, and I doubt they will suffer on FF, and it can dance mono or Bayer DNG and JPG. I have no weather sealed camera. Leica, HB, Sony, Pixii or Lumix. So that is kind of a red herring in any discussion. Really, how many cameras are well weather sealed and how much does it matter? Do you really shoot in the rain a lot? I live in a town which sometimes gets 100" of rain a year. I manage just fine.

So to me with the PIxii I get a camera that will take a good picture. That is why I buy a camera. Quirky? Hmmm. Imagine that all you had ever shot with was a Pixii and you were suddenly confronted with another current camera. Is it quirky or just not what we are used to? You decide. My upgrade is on order and paid for. I'll let you all know how it works when I get it back from the Pixii folks. They have been good to me so far.
I disagree with your wisecrack about the need for new relationships at 84 (or any age for that matter) but at least you came to the right conclusion about not missing out on opportunities before you kick the bucket. Also, the Pixii Max's lack of weather sealing might be an important consideration for nature or outdoor photographers and is not just an irrelevant factoid. I emphatically agree that image quality is the name of the game, and in that respect the Pixii Max is worthy of consideration. I wish you the best with your new, and yes, engagingly quirky camera.
 
The R-D1x and R-D1xG still used the original 6MPixel CCD of Nikon D-100 vintage. The camera was updated in the sense it could use larger SD cards, probably a change in the chips and firmware. If Epson had used a then-current full-frame sensor, it would have been competition. They stuck with a CCD that was already obsolete. No competition.
 
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Sure, why not mix up opinion, fact, and add semantics? The cameras in the R-D1 line-up were launched before and after the launch of the M8 and competed with Leica.
 
The R-D1 was launched before the M8. The others that followed were minor revisions.

So we can leave it at the Pixii is the first competitor for the Full-Frame Leica Digital camera. Too bad that Epson did not bring out one when they had the chance.
 
My sole complaint about the PIxii is the shutter button. I wish it were more like the keys on the old IBM Selectric and some IBM computer keyboards where there was a tactile pressure and solid click when pressed. And a sound that made it known the button had clicked. This is petty. It is also galling.

But I just now checked my PIxii A2572 for some other indication that it took a picture. There is one and I had missed it. And it is not subtle. The frame lines in the viewer disappear when the photo is taken. They are gone for just a fraction of a second but they do disappear momentarily. So it is now a lot easier to live with the nearly silent shutter button. Another case of "cockpit error" revealed. I'll just go an sit in the corner for a while. ;o)

Addendum: There may be software/firmware glitches in PIxii, camera and app. As I understand it Pixii is a cadre of three people. David Barth is a computer head/Linux guy who worked on the Linux Mint project if I am not mistaken. So he may be code-slinger in chief. And boss man of a three person outfit that is trying to bring to market a good camera. Judged by image the A2572 has succeeded through the efforts of this talented French team. They are not a sprawling industrial giant. So from my biased perspective these folks are to be congratulated rather than criticized. Imagine trying to get an all-new RF camera off the ground with three people. Conceive, design and build it with just those three. Really?! Three people got this little box designed and built and then shoehorned into it a sensor from God knows where which they got tuned pretty well. And it has that cute trick up its sleeve of mono RAW files as well as Bayer RAW files. IIRC the mono RAW is 14 bit, not too shabby. Granted I am an unabashed Francophile but strip that all away and there is still a good camera there.
 
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It is quite impressive what they have accomplished, it is not easy to get something like this designed, let alone manufactured, perhaps the most difficult part being sensor sourcing. They appear to be very skilled coders. Personally I like some of their design decisions like built-in storage and no display. There would be little reason to buy such a camera if it were simply a Leica clone, other than price, and that is not a strategy that would enable long term success. I applaud the differentiation. It isn’t for everyone, but what camera is?
 
At least you have an English made lens you can put on it. That makes it acceptable... ( whistles Rule, Britannia innocently ... )

:cool:


Correction, two English-made lenses, Cooke Amotal and Skyllaney Bertele Sonnar. There are both really great lenses. The Cooke glow and the Skyllaney accuracy and edible color. "Britons never, never, never will be slaves."

Cooke:

Pixii/Amotal by West Phalia, on Flickr
I cannot seem to find any with the Skyllaney. I'll have to fix that.
 
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It is quite impressive what they have accomplished, it is not easy to get something like this designed, let alone manufactured, perhaps the most difficult part being sensor sourcing. They appear to be very skilled coders. Personally I like some of their design decisions like built-in storage and no display. There would be little reason to buy such a camera if it were simply a Leica clone, other than price, and that is not a strategy that would enable long term success. I applaud the differentiation. It isn’t for everyone, but what camera is?


Built-in storage was seen as a possible Achilles heel early on. It was, IIRC, a first. And a failed internal memory card is not a small problem. But then the X2D came out the same way. And the doubts kind of died out. Pixii has been innovative. That makes you a target. Pixii is doing well. I am eager for my Max. I am pleased with my A2572. I get good color and IQ with it. Thank you, David.
 
I thought the camera’s core functionality was independent of the app.

If Pixii were to go out of business, the most obvious action to support digital preservation is for them to release the software under a Creative Commons license.

The core functionality of the Pixii is independent of the phone app. The phone app is a convenience. The camera software.firmware can be updated through its own WiFi connection and all the functions can be managed on the camera as well as offloading images. But you need the phone app to chimp. And you can use it to manage the camera. But you do not need it to manage the camera.
 
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Again, why pose the Pixii as a "competitor" to the Leica M?

It's pretty obviously a good camera, doesn't compete with any of the Leica M digitals on a feature for feature basis, and is only a modest amount of money less expensive when all is taken into account (as long as we're talking about pretty darn expensive, niche model cameras...). It is a different take on the notion of how to make a digital rangefinder with respect to the notion of removable storage media and access to extended features through software and WiFi, and one that works pretty well.

(The Leica M10-D implemented a similar strategy to handle extended functions sans built-in display, etc., and it indeed works pretty well too.)

I don't know of anyone who would sell their Leica M digital camera because they wanted a Pixii instead. That would make it a true competitor.

That someone would choose to buy a Pixii because it's a little less expensive is usually driven because the person buying doesn't want to spend (or have to spend) quite as much as the Leica would cost. But unless you're intimating that the Pixii is cutting into sales of the Leica based on price competition ... Well, there's no evidence of that going on: Leica seems to be selling 100% of their production capacity for Leica M digital cameras since day one, and the availability of the Pixii for several years hasn't changed that at all.

What the Pixii is doing is opening up digital rangefinder sales to a broader audience, including people who want to buy a new camera but don't want to spend the price of a Leica M11, or who simply want something a little different. I don't think that's a "competitor", it seems simply an "interesting alternative" to me.

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So I can get a Pixii and not have to get a Smart Phone. No Display Monitor, and built in storage Sounds like my DCS200ir. Except USB-C instead of SCSI, and it's a bit smaller.
Sounds good to me.
 
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So I can get a Pixii and not have to get a Smart Phone. No Display Monitor, and built in storage Sounds like my DCS200ir. Except USB-C instead of SCSI, and it's a bit smaller.
Sounds good to me.

Pixii is going to sound like a lot of cameras. You know, lens, body and then some attributes which will have appeared in one camera or another. There are lots of similar cameras. But not all similar cameras are equal. This snotty little Frenchman is quite clever. I like the APS-C images I have gotten in color and IQ and low noise even at high ISO's.

This is not everyone's camera. I remember one book on the advertising game talking about folks in a group that thought outside of the box. They concluded that they also smoked Old Golds, wore polka dot boxer shorts and drove Studebakers. I bet they would have bought Pixii cameras. It's not a Kodak or standard issue FF. It is its own kind. And at least as far as I am concerned it does that pretty well. Oh, BTW, I do not smoke, wear polka dot boxer shorts or drive a Studebaker. I come close, though, with a 2CV and a G1 Honda Insight.
 
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