The Pixii Max: The first real competitor to the Leica digital M’s!

The Pixii Max: The first real competitor to the Leica digital M’s

Adding a full frame sensor and matching range/viewfinder ups the ante!

By Jason Schneider

The French have a penchant for doing things their own way, especially when it comes to designing cameras. Examples of their defiantly idiosyncratic approach include the long-running Foca line of un-Leica-like interchangeable lens rangefinder 35s and the extensive range of spartan yet sophisticated Semflex 6x6 cm twin lens reflexes. All these beautifully made, high-performance cameras were fitted with superb French-made optics. It’s therefore hardly surprising that when Pixii (PIXII SAS), a French company located Besançon France unveiled its first digital M-mount rangefinder camera in 2017, it bore scant resemblance to the legendary digital Leica M’s that inspired it. Like all subsequent Pixii models, including the new top-of the-line full frame Pixii Max, the original 2017 Pixii A1112 has an optical multi-frame range/viewfinder, no LCD (it relies on a Wi-Fi-connected smartphone for reviewing captured images), and no memory card slot (it was available with a choice if 8GB or 32GB of internal storage). It also had an 11MP APS-C-format CMOS sensor, LED-illuminated frame lines, and a “dual block machined aluminum alloy” body with a compact “moderately modern” form factor that has been retained on all subsequent models.

Top view of Space Grat Pixii  Max with connected iPhone displaying a captured DNGi file image....jpg
Top view of Space Grat Pixii Max with connected iPhone displaying a captured DNG image. Camera is set for "M," metered manual mode.

The original Pixii A11i2 was succeeded in 2021 by the upgraded Pixii A1571 with a 26MP APS-C CMOS sensor, and in 2023 by the Pixii A2572, which incorporated the same sensor and added a 64-bit processor. Later in 2023 the company brought forth the Pixii+ (aka Pixii A2572+), which uses the same 26MP APS-C CMOS sensor and 64-bit processor but extended the rangefinder base length for more precise focusing. It is noteworthy that all these APS-C-format models are factory upgradable t by swapping out the image processor, the range/viewfinder unit or the range/viewfinder and the sensor, a remarkable achievement that’s unique to the Pixii line and a boon for Pixii owners. No complete price list for these upgrades is currently accessible online but upgrading a late model APS-C Pixii+ to full frame Pixii Max specs (which entails swapping out the range/viewfinder and the sensor) currently runs Є 1,499.00 plus tax. While that’s not cheap, upgrading a Pixii still costs a lot less than purchasing a new one.

According to a 2021 review posted by the sensor- and lens-test portal dxomark.com, the Pixxi sensor was the only APS-C sensor that delivered virtually noiseless images at ISO 1600, thus establishing it as the benchmark in the APS-C format camera sector. The Pixii’s optical viewfinder is an inversed Galilean type with LED-illuminated frame lines, integrated with a classic optical rangefinder employing an optical prism, and including additional in-finder display of exposure parameters, etc.

Several camera functions typically built into digital cameras are “outsourced” out of the Pixii camera (all models) and into a smartphone app. Images stored in the internal memory are transferred via a Bluetooth 5 wireless connection, then stored in the smartphone and displayed on the phone’s touch screen or downoaded onto a USB-C flash drive to free up space. This makes Pixii cameras noticeably smaller and lighter than comparable Leica M’s and provides a more “analog” shooting experience by “separating” picture taking and image evaluation, but you do have to carry and connect your smartphone to view and offload image files, and for some users that’s a deal breaker.

Pixii Max in Matte Black top view held in hands, showing ergonomic form factor and well placed...jpg
Pixii Max in Matte Black top view, held in hands, showing ergonomic form factor and well placed controls. Top LCD panel shows camera is set for "A" autoexposure mode and camera selected "proper exposure" shutter speed if 1/125 sec when lens is set at a tad past f/4 .

Pixii camera intro imeline

Camera modellaunchMegapixelsSensor
format
Lens Mt.Remarks
Pixii A1112201711APS-CLeica
M
Pixii A1571202126APS-CLeica
M
upgradeable to Pixii

A2572 by exchange of processor
Pixii A2572202326APS-CLeica
M
64-Bit processor, upgradeable to Pixii+ by rangefinder exchange
Pixii+ (or Pixii A2572+)2023 (?)26APS-CLeica
M
Extended rangefinder base length
Pixii Max20242435mm
Full frame
Leica
M
earlier APS-C models are upgrade-able with the Pixii Max's full-frame 24.5MP BSI-CMOS sensor

Pixii Max in Space Gray, front view showing 4-lug M-mount and full frame24.5MP CMOS sensor.jpeg
Pixii Max in Space Gray, front view showing 4-lug M-mount and full frame24.5MP CMOS sensor. Note classic Leica M style neck strap lugs.

Front view of Pixii Max in Matte Black. Note rounded end  of rangefinder coupling arm inboard ...jpg
Front view of Pixii Max in Matte Black. Note Leica M style rounded end rangefinder coupling arm inboard of the nicely crafted M-mount.

The new Pixii Max: Pixii’s first full frame digital rangefinder camera, the recently released Pixii Max, is the French digital rangefinder company's fifth model and its first full-frame camera. Its 24 x 36mm 24.5MP BSI CMOS sensor is built into the same compact, machined aluminum body as the previous APS-C-sensor models and it includes the latest refinements, a newly developed 64-bit processor, a choice of 32GB or 128GB of internal memory for storage, and of course its signature feature, a Leica M-compatible lens mount. The first real competitor to the legendary (and pricey!) Leica M11, the Pixii Max delivers state-of-the-art digital imaging performance and something akin to the traditional analog shooting experience since reviewing captured images is a separate operation requiring a Wi-Fi-connected smartphone.

Full-Frame Sensor, 64-Bit Processor

The new, full-frame 24.5MP BSI CMOS sensor is the defining feature of the new camera, which, in conjunction with its advanced 64-bit processor first released in 2023, provides extremely sharp imaging with extremely low noise (to about ISO 6400) and a much wider dynamic range. Its 24 x 36mm sensor size corresponds precisely with the size of 35mm film format, maximizing its light-gathering capacity and allowing the complete range of Leica M-mount lenses to be used to their full potential with put any multiplication factor. This is particularly important with wide-angle that can now be used without any “effective focal length” restrictions. The Pixii’s full frame sensor design also allows the camera to produce native DNG RAW images in both color and monochrome, the latter paralleling (but not quite equaling) the $9,045.00 black-and-white Leica M 11 Monochrom.

Wide-Angle Optical Viewfinder

The Pixii Max's upgraded optical viewfinder now sports a 28mm, wide-angle field of view, with backlit LED frame lines for standard 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, and 75mm prime lenses. Fabricated of high refractive index optical glass with multicoated, antireflective surfaces, the 0.67x viewfinder displays real-time controls and indicators inside the OVF for a more convenient and intuitive shooting experience. The full range of settings is viewable and selectable on a small top-mounted LCD panel. Surprisingly, specifications for the actual and effective base lengths of the Max’s rangefinder are not posted on the Pixii website, listed in the user manual, or posted anywhere on the internet. However, we were able to find a straight-on picture of the Pixxi Max with callouts showing the distance between both side-mounted neck strap lugs as 138mm. By comparing that distance to the measured distance between the centers of the front viewfinder and rangefinder windows in the photo, we were able to determine, with reasonable accuracy, that the Max’s actual rangefinder base is 60mm. And by multiplying 60 by the finder magnification of 0.67, we calculate the effective base length (EBL) to be 40.2mm. That compares to the Leica M11’s actual base length of 69.31mm and viewfinder magnification of 0.73x) for an EBL of 50.6. For comparison the old analog Leica CL of 1973 has an EBL of only 18.9mm (31.5 actual base length times a viewfinder magnification of 0.6x), rendering it marginal in terms of focusing accuracy with super speed normal lenses and fast moderate telephotos.. Conclusions: The Pixii Max rangefinder is more than adequate for focusing prime lenses in the 28mm to 50 mm range (though perhaps not the 75mm f/1.25 Noctilux). The Leica M11 ($9,195.00 in black or chrome) provides greater focusing precision but the Pixii Max scores on its illuminated LED frame lines (which compensate for parallax and adjust in brightness depending on the ambient light and remain visible in any light), and its more comprehensive in-finder readouts, The M11 range/viewfinder scores on its more precisely defined rangefinder patch, which can be used as a split image rangefinder to substantially increase focusing precision, and its auto-indexing, transilluminated, parallax compensating frame lines, displayed in pairs, that cover covering focal lengths of 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm, 90mm and 135mm.

Viewfinder and OLED LCD diagrams of Pixii Max from manual. Note that the outer frame lins defi...jpg
Viewfinder and OLED LCD diagrams of Pixii Max from manual. Note that the outer frame lines defining the 28mm field are fixed,

Page from Pixii Max manual showing averaging, center weighted, and spot metering options..jpg
Page from Pixii Max manual showing averaging, center weighted, and spot metering options.

Front view diagram of Pixii Max showing all major components..jpg
Front view diagram of Pixii Max showing all major components. Changing lenses is easy and the camera accepts adapted screw-mount lenses.

Lenses and Focusing

Like all cameras with coupled optical rangefinders, the Pixii Max provides a traditional manual focusing experience. The focus rings or tabs on M-mount rangefinder lenses (Leica or third party) control a small lever inboard of the lens mount. You turn the focusing control until the stationary image and the moving image in the center of the viewfinder field coincide—that is, merge into a single image of the object you’re focusing on. That’s why it’s called a coincident-type rangefinder, and also a coupled rangefinder because it’s mechanically linked to the distance setting of a mounted lens. This utterly analog focusing method yields more accurate results, especially when shooting with shorter focal length lenses and in low-light situations when focusing on a traditional “ground glass” screen is a lot more challenging. In general, with cameras using this system the aperture of the lens must be controlled via the lens itself and not automatically through the camera. That’s why autoexposure rangefinder cameras like the late lamented Leica M7, the current M11, and the new Pixii Max only provide aperture priority AE and metered manual exposure modes, not shutter priority or programmed autoexposure.

Body build and form factor

Remarkably, the Pixii Max is a mere one ounce heavier than the same sized Pixii+. Weighing in at 1.1 pounds, the Pixii Max employs the same machined-aluminum chassis and svelte minimalist body design as its predecessors. It nestles in the hands very comfortably, is nicely balanced with virtually and any short to moderate tele M-mount lens, and after a brief period of familiarization its controls “fall readily to hand” as the Brits say. A top OLED screen displays the camera's current settings, including the manual shutter speed controlled by the camera body’s sole dial, and access to the full settings menu. The menu and most current settings including manual metering indicators are also shown in the optical viewfinder—a great feature that contributes to the camera’s “eyelevel” responsiveness. The max also features a cold shoe for mounting accessories (but no accommodations for flash), a robust standard 1/4"-20 tripod socket on the bottom, a USB-C port for both power and data transfer, and sturdy lugs for attaching a carrying strap that look like they were swiped from a Leica M of the ‘50s. Do you love the “post-modern, softly linear” form factor of the Pixii Max? It has certain spartan elegance but as the French say, “Chacun à son goût.”

Diagram of back of Pixii Max from manual showing features and finctions..jpg
Diagram of back of Pixii Max from manual with callouts describing all features and functions.

The Pixii Mav Support System

The Pixii Max features both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity for the Pixii App, which allows you to control the camera remotely, preview images while shooting, and transfer and store images saved to the camera's internal memory via a connected smartphone. As mentioned Pixii also lets you access an open-ended upgrade system for both software and hardware, that lets you “future proof” your investment by upgrading your camera with an extensive portfolio of future advancements and innovations that may well take your present Pixii to unimaginable new levels of performance and capabilities. Perhaps other digital camera companies will be inspired to follow Pixii’s lead but for now this small, innovative, and idiosyncratic French company is the only one to provide a useful measure of non-obsolescence.

Diagram of bottom of Pixii Max with callouts from manual.jpg
Diagram of bottom of Pixii Max with callouts, from the manual. Battery is easy to change, and unique "anti-slip sole" provides a firmer grip.

The economics of owning a Pixii

The new Pixii Max body is currently priced in the U.S. at $4,799.00 in Matte Black or Space Gray with 128GB of internal memory, and $4,499.00 with 32GB of internal memory. The Leica M11 in black is priced at $8,995.00 with 64GB of internal and the Leica M11-P with 256GB if internal memory is priced at $9,195.00. Both Leicas have 60MP BSI CMOS sensors, 2.95" 2.3m-Dot Touchscreen LCDs, SD card slots, and can shoot bursts at up to 4.5 fps (a lot faster than the Pixii’s 1 fps). But the Pixii Max is upgradeable and, except for software updates, the Leica M11 is not. Another thing to consider is battery power. The Pixii’s NP-FW50 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion, 7.2 VDC, 1080 mAh battery is sufficient for only about 250 exposures so it’s a good idea to carry a few extra fully charged batteries if you plan to shoot more—equivalents of roughly the same capacity are readily available at prices ranging from about $14 to $60 apiece.

What about a used Leica M10?

Prices for used standard issue Leica M10s in pristine condition currently range from about $4,500.00 to $5,000.00 or roughly the same price as the Pixii Max with 128GB storage capacity. The M10 has a full frame 24MP CMOS sensor, can shoot bursts at up to 5fps, and has the classic form factor and feel of a Leica M because it is one! It’s also somewhat larger and noticeably heavier than the Pixii Max. In short, a used M10 is a viable option, especially for diehard Leica fans, but it’s not a new camera and (except for software) it’s not factory upgradeable.

What about resale value?

In general M-series Leicas, even digital models going back to the M8 and M8.2, hold their value very well. Based on the scant data we have, used Pixii cameras seen to retain their value better than “the average digital camera,” but more data are needed to confirm this trend.

Unpacking the Pixii Max: What’s in the box?

  • Pixii Max Digital Rangefinder Camera (128GB, Matte Black or Space Gray)
  • Standard Eyepiece
  • NP-FW50 Battery
  • USB-A to USB-C Cable
  • Limited 2-Year Manufacturer Warranty
Final thoughts

The fifth generation Pixii Max may not be everything to everybody and it’s defiantly idiosyncratic, but it’s also beautifully made, has an excellent range/viewfinder that, in some respects (e.g. LCD frame lines and impressive in-finder readouts) surpasses the vaunted Leica M. Its controls are logical, easily accessible, and ergonomically placed, its handling and balance are topnotch, and it delivers outstanding image quality. It falls short in battery capacity, framing rate, and the speed of transferring images from the internal memory. And a substantial percentage of potential buyers are turned off by its lack of an LCD touchscreen or memory card slot. Nevertheless, it’s a stunning achievement and worthy of consideration by anyone who hankers for a high-performance digital M-mount rangefinder camera that isn’t a Leica. In the immortal words of Burger King, “Try it, you’ll like it!”



Pixii Max Specs



Lens MountLeica M
Sensor ResolutionEffective: 24.5 Megapixel (6064 x 4040 pixels)
Image SensorFull-Frame BSI CMOS
ISO Sensitivity Range100 to 25,600
Internal Recording ModesNo
External Recording ModesNo
Power I/O1x USB-C Input/Output
Other I/O1x USB-C Data (Shared with Power Input)
WirelessWi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
Battery Type1x NP-FW50 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion, 7.2 VDC,
1080 mAh


Imaging

Lens MountLeica M
Sensor ResolutionEffective: 24.5 Megapixel (6064 x 4040)
Image SensorFull-Frame BSI CMOS
Sensor Crop (35mm Equivalent)Crop Factor: 1x
Built-In ND FilterNo
Capture TypeStill Only
Exposure Control



ISO Sensitivity Range100 to 25,600
Metering MethodAverage, Center-Weighted Average, Spot
Exposure ModesAuto, Manual
White BalancePresets: Cloudy, Daylight, Fluorescent, Incandescent,
Shade
Still image capture

Image Sizes3:2 DNG / JPEG
26 MP (6244 x 4168)
Aspect Ratio3:2
Image File FormatDNG, JPEG
Bit Depth14-Bit
Internal Recording ModesNo
External Recording ModesNo
Recording LimitNo
IP StreamingNo


Interface

Internal Memory128 GB
Power I/O1x USB-C Input/Output
Other I/O1x USB-C Data (Shared with Power Input)
WirelessWi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
Mobile App CompatibleYes: Android & iOS
App Name: Pixii App
Functionality: Access Stored Files, Firmware Update, Remote Control, View Live Feed
Global Positioning (GPS, GLONASS, etc.)GPS
*Via Connected Smartphone
Monitor

Secondary DisplayTop: OLED Status Display
Viewfinder

TypeOptical
Coverage100%
MagnificationApprox. 0.67x
Focus

Focus TypeManual Focus Only
Focus ModeManual Focus


Built-In Flash/LightNo


General



Battery Type1x NP-FW50 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion, 7.2 VDC, 1080 mAh
PoE SupportYes
Shoe Mount1x Cold Shoe
Tripod Mounting Thread1x 1/4"-20 Female (Bottom)
Material of ConstructionAluminum
Dimensions (W x H x D)5.4 x 3.1 x 1.3" / 138 x 79 x 33 mm
Weight1.1 lb. / 480 g (With Battery)


Positive Features

Built-in Wireless (Wi-fi)
Bluetooth Connectivity
Optical Built-in Viewfinder
24.5MP - High Resolution Sensor
25.600 Max ISO
1/32000s High Shutter Speed
1/32000s Electronic Shutter Speed
480g Light Body
32GB,64GB,128GB,256GB Internal Storage
Top LCD Display
Flash Sync Port
Remote control with a smartphone


Negative Features

No Rear LCD Screen
No Sensor shift Image Stabilization
No Full HD Video
No Face Detection Focusing
Slow Continuous Shooting: 1.0fps
Low Battery Life: 250 shots
No Environmental Sealing

No mechanical or global shutter
 
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Philosophically, Pixii and Leica have almost nothing in common except that they use the same general type of focusing/viewing system and the same lens mount. Beyond that it's hard to imagine two more different cameras:
  • Leica is for people who are passionate about heritage and craftsmanship.
  • Pixii is for people who are passionate about innovation and technology.
You'd think there would be enough of both types of people in photography that we wouldn't need to butt heads with each other. The people we
should be butting heads with are the ones who don't understand why (to us) a spartan, straightforward camera that prioritizes observation is worth as much money as one that shoots 120 frames per second, has a special AF mode for fish lips, and is crammed with controls we don't need for adjusting features we don't want. Somebody posted that "for the same money I could buy a Sony A9 III," and yeah, you could; for the same money you could also buy four tons of chicken manure (I actually looked this up.) But I don't want four tons of chicken manure, and I don't want a Sony A9 III either... I want something that works for me.
The Pixxi Max and Leica M11 are both full frame digital cameras that have optical range/viewfinders and an M-mount. The reason they do "butt heads" is that anyone considering this type of camera now has a viable choice. I think each, in its own way, offers "craftsmanship, innovation, and technology." Heritage is a hard thing to quantify, but the first digital Leica M (the M8) was released in 2006, the first full-frame digital M (the M9) debuted in 2009, and the first (APS-C-format) Pixii came out in 2017. Many Leica fans believe the Leica M11's "heritage" really begins with the analog Leica M3 of 1954, or even the Leica I (Model A) of 1925, but that's a stretch.
 
At present, Leica has no incentive to move down-market and sell a $5,000 USD full-frame digital rangefinder -- they had their most profitable year on record in 2023, selling models for nearly double. It's good that people now have an option and Brian's comparison to the CL is very apt.

When it's time for me to replace my digital rangefinder, I will give the Pixii some serious consideration.
 
The Pixii Max is a competitor to the Leica digital M’s because it is the only other high performance full frame digital camera with an optical multi-frame range/viewfinder and an M-mount. There is no “domain” because buyers looking for a camera of this type face a binary choice.
I find it as a good thing that we have such new cameras being made and offered at "reasonable" prices. I am most likely sticking with my old digital Leica cameras (8-9-10).

Thank you all for the information shown here since last Sunday.
 
The ability to get repair and upgrade services within a reasonable time frame would be a huge factor if I were considering a new camera. I love my Leica gear but find their extremely slow service inexcusable.
 
The ability to get repair and upgrade services within a reasonable time frame would be a huge factor if I were considering a new camera. I love my Leica gear but find their extremely slow service inexcusable.
This is a very good point. Maintenance and repair should be better than what we can get from Leica.
 
Exactly. Reason #1 why I'll never buy another digital Leica (having bought two new ones.) Working at a Leica dealer I saw too many cases of poor service for a premium brand. Meanwhile they put money into a fancy HQ instead of beefing up service response.
 
Of course the Pixii is a competitor to the Digital Leica M series. There are many competitors to the Leica M, when Full-Frame Mirrorless cameras than can use an Adapter to use Leica mount lenses are considered. The Pixii is the only one with a real rangefinder. What will my next camera be? I'm not sure, but I will be Testing the full-frame Pixii. Would I consider it over a Nikon Zf or a Z6-III? I'll find out. I would buy another M9 before buying an M11, if my M9 ever dies.
I thought the Pixii might be a viable alternative to an M (or competitor, call it what you will) when I looked at it in 2022. That's why I bought one. After a couple of weeks of intense testing, I decided that it was so different in every way that mattered, and it failed so badly on power management and haptics that it wasn't at all: I'd rather spend the extra money and buy a Leica M that worked the way I wanted my camera to work.

And I think the notion of adapting Leica lenses to some other body/type of body is a red herring as an example of "competition to the M". You might as well say, "My VW Polo is as good as a Ferrari 512BB because it handles well on the same tires." It's most definitely NOT the same thing. I've used Leica M lenses on a host of cameras via adaptors ... NONE of them are a competitor to the Leica M, they're not playing the same ball game.

The sole reason why I own several Leicas (now only Ms, but including SL and CL digital models in the past) is that they work the way I expect a camera to work. The reason I was motivated to try Leica bodies in the first place was on the strength of Leica lenses' reputation, which turns out to be pretty accurate. Having played the adaptation game for a couple of decades of digital cameras (using Leica lenses on other bodies) and produced tens of thousands of photographs, many sold or exhibited with recognition, I opine with the confidence come of long experience that Leica bodies are the best platform on which to use Leica lenses.

G
 
I am considered by some to be an expert at adapting lenses. I've also worked with Digital Imagers for over 40 years.

No red herring to consider Mirrorless cameras to be competition to a Leica M Rangefinder. Many people have been doing this.
 
I am considered by some to be an expert at adapting lenses. I've also worked with Digital Imagers for over 40 years.

No red herring to consider Mirrorless cameras to be competition to a Leica M Rangefinder. Many people have been doing this.

Exactly. If my M 240 were to die tomorrow there is no way I could afford to replace it with either a Pixii or another Leica. The Z5 I'll hopefully have in a couple of weeks with a handful of adapters will instead carry me forward for a sum I can actually afford.
 
Exactly. If my M 240 were to die tomorrow there is no way I could afford to replace it with either a Pixii or another Leica. The Z5 I'll hopefully have in a couple of weeks with a handful of adapters will instead carry me forward for a sum I can actually afford.

I have shot with M mount lenses on the X2D and sometimes on the Sony A7 besides the Leicas and Pixii. I have these cameras not because I have a lot of money. No, I just want to insure my heirs do not. LMAO I have lived a frugal life and still do and that enables me moments of insanity with cameras and lenses. And I hope that you all have the same good fortune. ;o)
 
I am considered by some to be an expert at adapting lenses. I've also worked with Digital Imagers for over 40 years.

No red herring to consider Mirrorless cameras to be competition to a Leica M Rangefinder. Many people have been doing this.
LOL!

Brian,

I am a mathematician first, computer geek and software engineer second, mechanic third, and a photographer by avocation since before any of that. I started working with digital image capture and image processing at NASA/JPL in 1984. I operated three photography-based businesses, starting in 1970—ending in 2011—and have exhibited, published, and sold a few thousand photographs over the decades, a good number of them made with Leica lenses and bodies both film and digital. I've been adapting "legacy" (or film-camera) lenses to production digital bodies since the early 1990s, and to scientific digital imaging equipment since 1984.

Many people have been using Leica M (and R) lenses on their mirrorless cameras from various other manufacturers, including myself. And with good results. But an objective evaluation of the results indicates quite clearly to me that using Leica M lenses on Leica M bodies produces superior results, no matter how expertly the adaptation has been made to some other body. To consider doing that to be "competition" to a Leica M rangefinder is indeed nothing but a red herring, unless the point of calling that "competition" is to say that you can spend less with doing that than with buying a Leica M digital body.

I don't consider "price competition" to be the sole intent of a title like The Pixii Max: The first real competitor to the Leica digital M’s!. That's just sensationalist nonsense to attract attention.

There are a lot of cameras less expensive than a Leica M that compete solidly on performance, and no sweat on me if they're what you prefer. Do we have to call out each and every one of them as a "competitor to the Leica M"? Unless the Pixii Max has seriously improved on battery performance and haptics, it's just a full-frame version of the Pixii that I bought and returned as unsuitable in 2022 ... and I see no evidence offered that its haptics are any better or its battery life improved as would be needed to surmount the difficulties I found with the one I bought.

Note that I didn't find any particular difficulties with the APS-C Pixii in terms of its imaging qualities. It was power management, a settings/information display nearly impossible to read in sunlight, and a shutter release that was at least very difficult to know had operated that made it a camera I rejected. The last, particularly without an LCD for review confirmation, meant that I often found more than half the exposures I thought I had made simply weren't. 🤷‍♂️ I've never had a difficulty like that with any other digital camera I've owned and used, and certainly not with any digital Leica M.

G
 
Moments of Insanity... That's an improvement over most...

It's good to have choices. In film days, there were very few systems that you could adapt lenses across.
Many companies used to make Rangefinder cameras in the 50s and 60s.
I'm glad to see the Pixii. I'll be trying the 40/2 Summicron on it, real Leica CL lens.
 
I don't know of any weather-sealed (or dust and splash proof) lenses from Leica. If the optical blocks are tightly assembled possibly no problem since no electronic parts in those lenses. Regarding diopter, for the previous M Leica bodies, I could buy cheap ones from MAP Camera in Shinjuku, Tokyo. They were about $50 and worked very well for me. Are diopters available for the VF of the Pixii?

Reports of M LCAG lenses getting dust inside are not uncommon. If dust gets where, water will follow.
And lens mount does have electronics connected to it.

OP is spot on to call M11 as legend. Many have hear about it, very few owns it.

So, Pixii is same kind of legend.
 
What no one can disagree with:

It’s great to have lots of options!

What works for one person may or may not work for someone else.
Exactly my thoughts, too. The more options the better and healthy competition between camera manufacturers might trigger some innovations in camera technology as it did in the past.
 
For the amount of money that the Pixii Max costs, I could buy a Sony a9II, which I think is a more capable and versitile camera. While I applaud Pixii for producing the new camera, I think that there are better options available if one is not wedded to the rangefinder model. I am kinda old and have issues with focusing a using a rangefinder. Live view through the lens with magnification options is really useful for people like me, especially when using favorite lenses like the Zeiss/Canon/Nikkor 8.5cm f 2 lenses

All Sony cameras are nothing but ugliness. Imo.
Some don't care to hold it in hands. I don't want any even for free.
Where are some like me.
I think EVF is for loosers and rangefinder is for tiny group of those who knows how to use it, followed by tiny crowd of those who wants to be special :)
 
What no one can disagree with:
It’s great to have lots of options!
What works for one person may or may not work for someone else.
I can't disagree with these thoughts ... But having an option between a camera that I can use for a week or two without recharging its battery vs one that I better carry two batteries every time I take it out...; between a camera that fires its shutter reliably and at the instant I want it to vs one that sometimes does and sometimes doesn't fire the shutter at all ...; and between a camera where with one glance, no matter what the environment of use, I can see and make settings vs one which on a normal sunny day requires that I shade it, squint, hold it sideways to almost see what the settings are... To me, this doesn't constitute much of a choice at all.

I have lots of funky cameras that have their challenges when learning to use them. But I don't keep cameras that are simply inconsistent and difficult to use after understanding everything there is to know about them.

I feel for the folks at Pixii SAS. They're working hard to produce a good camera, and they're a very small team. Perhaps too small ... To do the job properly might simply require more work than a handful of people can achieve in a short time.

G
 
I just keep spare batteries for my digital cameras in the pockets of the case that I used for rolls of film. Batteries are not much larger than a box of 35mm film, and last more than 36 shots.
 
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