The Poor Man's Fuji Klasse W

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Fuji (God love'em) bangs out some very interesting cameras every so often... C'mon - a new medium format folder? A fixed-lens film point-n-shooter? Unfortunately, these are the camera equivalent of an Edwige Fenech to me - fun to oogle in pics, but nothing I'll be fondling in real life anytime soon... However, one of the cool things about cameras, lenses etc., is that there are a gazillion of them... with a little digging, you can sometimes unearth a hitherto relatively unknown camera that fits the bill without spending a small fortune. This is especially true, me thinks, of the film "point-n-shoot" era cameras.

So, here's my $0.99 (plus ship, including a little beat to hell carrying case...) point-n-shoot beater that I have dubbed the "Poor Man's Klasse W" because it's one of the few point-n-shoot cameras that has a fixed lens wider than 35mm. Like the Klasse W it has a 28mm lens. Unlike the Klasse, it has a laughably slow 5.6 lens. That gave me pause - but, I'm guessing that its designers, Konica-Minolta, figured that this isn't the camera people will be using to sneak around in ambient light with wide aps. It's a point-n-shoot. People will shoot outdoors - where 5.6 is plenty. Indoors people will simply use the flash.

No controls over anything except the flash. Auto exposure/auto focus(?) (- my guess is it's fixed focus with a focal length this wide and aperture this slow, dunno...) However, I like how the flash control is implemented with a conveniently-located toggle on the front of the camera. It's stays in auto by default. If you want force flash for a shot to use as a fill flash, pull it toward you. If you want to turn flash off, pull it away from you. You have to hold it in this position as a spring in the switch pulls it toward its center "auto" position.

The other kinda weird thing about this camera? Despite being a late-90's era (guessing) fixed lens film point-n-shooter, It's in stock on Amazon for $25
Minolta AF101R 35mm Autofocus Camera
by Konica-Minolta
http://www.amazon.com/Minolta-AF101...8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1295713041&sr=1-8

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Plastic but well-made. It only comes in black so it's "professional". - about the size of a bar of soap. Very little on the web about it. A couple owner reviews drew raves, and the few pics taken with it look decent enough. My guess is that I'll be pleasantly surprised by the lens. It's Konica-Minolta after all with its widest ap being f5.6, on a later-model point-n-shoot. I loaded it and taken a couple shots with it but haven't gone through a roll yet, which may take a while. I'll post some samples when I do.
 
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Nick -- now that you have this one, your next step must be the acquisition of the Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, which is best used with 400-speed film.

I'm interested to see how well your camera performs.
 
Sure looks like AF sensors left and right of that viewfinder. Might even have a decent near focus distance, then.

Now, about that VF. Any good? Not that I own a 28mm RF lens but if I did, I'd be scouring thrift shops for one of these to rip out the VF. I'm half way done building a "poor man's mini finder" from a $1 thrift store camera with a 35 lens.
 
@ZeissFan - For whatever reason, I've got point-n-shoot gas of late. Thanks for feeding into it 🙂 Vivitar Wide and Slim, eh?

@batterytypehah! - it does look like AF sensors, I agree. But would they really be needed with an F5.6 lens and a 28mm lens? Dunno. Sure looks like AF though, I agree. Yeah - I'd rate the VF as "average". It's fine.
 
I'm impressed by Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, just saw some photos over Flickr group, very wide lens, there were some really greatest results with cross-process, but the flare of the lens was so annoying..
I would like to have one, 22mm looks very attractive, besides all quirks and anomalies 😀
 
The Vivitar Wide & Slim - eh? See? I post something and go on a rant about a camera, and I end up learning something. Pretty neat. A 22mm lens point-n-shooter. Interesting. Thanks, all....
 
I'm impressed by Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, just saw some photos over Flickr group, very wide lens, there were some really greatest results with cross-process, but the flare of the lens was so annoying..
I would like to have one, 22mm looks very attractive, besides all quirks and anomalies 😀

Here is the link Nick. It's a pretty cool camera.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/57074580@N00/
 
Also the Minolta looks quite promising, on daylight. I have a black Canon sure supreme at home, my father have made some really nice photos, and i have some nice prints at home. But generaly I don't like the idea of wasting film in a p&s cameras, especially bad p&s; however there are some very quality p&s cameras as well, often expensive, so that's exception 🙂 I would like to try Minolta Tc-1, that little perfection of a camera really is special, and would looks very nice to my other Minoltas 🙂
 
Nick, nice to see you haven't completely enslaved by digital Nikon 🙂

I have another poor man's...something. Olympus Trip 505:
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35 mm automatic fix focus camera
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28 mm wide angle lens
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Glass lens construction
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Advanced flash system (3 flash modes)
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Large LCD panel displays frame
number, battery check and flash mode
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Automatic film transport
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Self-timer

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Got this for Dad as he though he has lost his another modern Trip, but he found it. Now I have ultimate street camera with glass lens. Takes two AA batteries.

For more advanced wide P&S I recommend this:

Fuji DL-500 Mini Wide booklet (back, front) by mm35exp36, on Flickr
 
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