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I am really digging the 5cm ƒ3.5 Elmar, since I found out about it's beautiful, beautiful, soft bokeh - watch that background far away (especially the transitions from bright sky to dark background - modern lenses murder any beauty in such things)!
Well, not all the modern lenses! I think this adds to my earlier post - slower lenses have smoother bokeh. One of the highest-performance, modern lenses for 35mm is the Heliar 50mm f/3.5, and it has exactly this gentle manner that you speak of in the 5cm Elmar of old (which the Helier also somewhat copies in physical style - Cosina's inspiration was clearly the old Elmar):


(both, Heliar 50mm at f/3.5, Kodak TMY400-2)
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A photo speaks more than a thousand words
Your post before could have easily understood as a Leica rant, but backing it with this beauty of bokeh makes your point clear.
Thank you! I am trying to make a double-point with the image above: The modern APO-Symmar is quite Leica-like in all respects - flawless optical performance, german (just kidding..! but some people make blanket statements about "german" vs "japanese" glass, etc), but (relatively, for LF) harsh bokeh - much earlier in this thread I posted a more severe example. Yet, the low magnification due to the large film format, together with the "relaxed" f/5.6 design - no need to try and perform miracles focusing light rays through an f/2.0 or f/1.4 hole - means that it still looks better than most 35mm lenses.
Across an entire lens range though, I would have to say my C-series Mamiya RB67 lenses have the most universally perfect bokeh. I have never seen harshness there, from wide-angle to telephoto. Truly perfect most of the time, even the über-corrected ones like the 140mm Macro:


Brian Legge
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Summar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6834334367
Yashinon 5cm 1.8
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6586918557
Canon 100mm 3.5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6616022907

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6834334367
Yashinon 5cm 1.8

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6586918557
Canon 100mm 3.5

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6616022907
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Some more examples of large-format rangefinder bokeh:
Look over the edge
(Nikkor-T*ED 360mm f/8, 25-years-expired Ilford FP4+, Linhof Technika V)
Bedside Vision
(Schneider-Kreuznach APO_Symmar 150mm f/5.6, 25-years-expired Ilford FP4+, Linhof Technika V)

(Nikkor-T*ED 360mm f/8, 25-years-expired Ilford FP4+, Linhof Technika V)
Bedside Vision

(Schneider-Kreuznach APO_Symmar 150mm f/5.6, 25-years-expired Ilford FP4+, Linhof Technika V)
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