ferider
Veteran
Don't blame it on me, blame it on John, this thread was his idea 
Quality of bokeh is clearly subjective - heck, even my perception has changed.
I used to search for "donuts" and "footballs" in the background of a shallow
DOF picture.
These days, I care less about that, and look at the 3d rendering that I feel
a lens provides.
So, please post example pictures, of what you think is good and bad bokeh,
which lens at which aperture you used, and why you like/dislike the lens'
OOF performance.
I'll start (the pic that triggered this):
Summicron-C 40/2 wide open at min. distance. This is the Wayfarer's
chappel in LA, architected by F.L. Wright Jr. Even though there are
slight donuts and double lines in the background, I like what I feel is
a superb 3D quality to the way the lens rendered this picture.
In my experience the 35/2 and 40/1.4 behave similarly. Or do they ?
More please. Thanks,
Roland.
Quality of bokeh is clearly subjective - heck, even my perception has changed.
I used to search for "donuts" and "footballs" in the background of a shallow
DOF picture.
These days, I care less about that, and look at the 3d rendering that I feel
a lens provides.
So, please post example pictures, of what you think is good and bad bokeh,
which lens at which aperture you used, and why you like/dislike the lens'
OOF performance.
I'll start (the pic that triggered this):
Summicron-C 40/2 wide open at min. distance. This is the Wayfarer's
chappel in LA, architected by F.L. Wright Jr. Even though there are
slight donuts and double lines in the background, I like what I feel is
a superb 3D quality to the way the lens rendered this picture.
In my experience the 35/2 and 40/1.4 behave similarly. Or do they ?
More please. Thanks,
Roland.
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foto_fool
Well-known
Roland - Now that you put it that way (dimensional rendering) I agree. The bokeh in the chapel shot is distracting, but the candle does really jump out of the frame.
I'll see you and raise you the 35mm Konica 35/2 UC-Hexanon (on R-D1):
(posted before).
The low angle lighting from the right of your frame contributes to the dimensionality of your shot. The coffeecup was lit from the right and from behind me. For me the geometric regularity of the OOF in my shot decreases my negative perception of the double lines - which in any case are relatively soft.
- John
I'll see you and raise you the 35mm Konica 35/2 UC-Hexanon (on R-D1):
(posted before).
The low angle lighting from the right of your frame contributes to the dimensionality of your shot. The coffeecup was lit from the right and from behind me. For me the geometric regularity of the OOF in my shot decreases my negative perception of the double lines - which in any case are relatively soft.
- John
ferider
Veteran
John, thanks. What your picture also shows in my mind is that the type
of background and cropping is very important. I've seen double
lines created with the UC hex, and created them with my Hexar AF myself ....
Roland.
of background and cropping is very important. I've seen double
lines created with the UC hex, and created them with my Hexar AF myself ....
Roland.
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foto_fool
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Cute couple but I completely agree about the footballs. Here's a series of shots with the ZM Sonnar C shot wide open (R-D1 again):
OOF on the ceiling (no highlights) is pleasing to me. OOF on the trees outside the window is not bad - because of distance?
The higlights behind the subjects are interesting - how do you describe this effect? In this shot it adds an element of humor for me.
Same venue as the prior shot - same lights. Completely different look. Pleasing - not distracting.
- John
OOF on the ceiling (no highlights) is pleasing to me. OOF on the trees outside the window is not bad - because of distance?
The higlights behind the subjects are interesting - how do you describe this effect? In this shot it adds an element of humor for me.
Same venue as the prior shot - same lights. Completely different look. Pleasing - not distracting.
- John
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Todd.Hanz
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...in the mean time...
good bokeh:
Nikkor 105/2.5 MF on D200
VC 75/2.5
Leica 50/1.4 Summilux (E-46 version)
bokeh not so good:
Nikkor 50/1.2
Todd
good bokeh:
Nikkor 105/2.5 MF on D200
VC 75/2.5
Leica 50/1.4 Summilux (E-46 version)
bokeh not so good:
Nikkor 50/1.2
Todd
Uwe_Nds
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Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Posted this pic somewhere before......
Elmar 90/4 on my Leica IIIa
Elmar 90/4 on my Leica IIIa
steverett
Anthopomorphized Camera
Both with a Canon 7:
Canon 85/2 on Velvia
Canon 50/1.8 on FP4+
Canon 85/2 on Velvia
Canon 50/1.8 on FP4+
brachal
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Bryce
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Pakmanpdx
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dlove5
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135 Elmarit @ f8 - I think. Mounted on IIIg + Viso II and extension ring
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lapinot
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Abbazz
6x9 and be there!
My favorite of the moment (Porst/Tomioka 55/1.2):
Cheers,
Abbazz
Cheers,
Abbazz
kmack
do your job, then let go
A little Beer with a Jupiter 8 on a Kiev II
hofrench@mac.co
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delft
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keithwms
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titrisol
Bottom Feeder
Good Bouquet?
Super-Takumar 50/1.4 at 1.4
Super-Takumar 50/1.4 at 1.4
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ltketch
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Heres some from me, dust from the scanner included!
Minolta MC 50/1.4 wide open, XD-7, Reala.
Got the lens the same day in the mail, just wanted to see what would hapen when wide open! Not the easiest shot as there was a breeze and everything was moving! not overly pleased with the more obvious donuts to the upper right!
Minolta MD 50/1.7, XD-7, FP4, unknown aperture but it was during the middle of the day so probably not wide open, but more dust First proper B&W film in over 20 years so wasn't trying for any effects, just wanted to test the XD-7 which had then recently come into my possesion!
Minolta MC 50/1.4 wide open, XD-7, Reala.
Got the lens the same day in the mail, just wanted to see what would hapen when wide open! Not the easiest shot as there was a breeze and everything was moving! not overly pleased with the more obvious donuts to the upper right!
Minolta MD 50/1.7, XD-7, FP4, unknown aperture but it was during the middle of the day so probably not wide open, but more dust
First proper B&W film in over 20 years so wasn't trying for any effects, just wanted to test the XD-7 which had then recently come into my possesion!
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