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now that apple has a fix for the fuji raw files, i was thinking about trying aperture this time around...i am not comfortable with lightroom and my normal software (photoshop elements) does not have a fix for the trans x raw files...

is aperture especially easy or difficult to learn? i like doing basic changes only and have never delved deep into any editing process.
 
Have you tried the following?
Adobe Camera Raw 7.4 is now available for Photoshop Elements 11

Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) 7.4 is now available to download for Photoshop Elements 11. More information regarding the additonal camera support added can be found at link here. For updating your camera raw plug-in in Photoshop Elements 11 follow the steps below:
  1. Launch Photoshop Elements.
  2. Click on Editor.
  3. Click on Help->Updates.
  4. You will be shown availability of new ACR plug-in with version 7.4 in Adobe Application Manager window.
  5. Click to Update.

http://blogs.adobe.com/pselements/adobe-camera-raw-7-4-is-now-available-for-photoshop-elements-11/
 
Mcary said:
Have you tried the following?
Adobe Camera Raw 7.4 is now available for Photoshop Elements 11

Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) 7.4 is now available to download for Photoshop Elements 11. More information regarding the additonal camera support added can be found at link here. For updating your camera raw plug-in in Photoshop Elements 11 follow the steps below:
  1. Launch Photoshop Elements.
  2. Click on Editor.
  3. Click on Help->Updates.
  4. You will be shown availability of new ACR plug-in with version 7.4 in Adobe Application Manager window.
  5. Click to Update.

http://blogs.adobe.com/pselements/adobe-camera-raw-7-4-is-now-available-for-photoshop-elements-11/
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i am running pse 8 and 9 right now...wasn't sure i wanted to get 11...but i thought 11 didn't cover the fuji cameras...
 
back alley said:
i am running pse 8 and 9 right now...wasn't sure i wanted to get 11...but i thought 11 didn't cover the fuji cameras...
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The original release of PSE-11 doesn't have support for the Fuji Camera's but Adobe periodically puts out updates of its RAW plugin, Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) for Photoshop CS and Elements.

Of course you can always download the free 30 day trail of PSE-11 the version available for download should already have ACR 7.4 , and see how it works for you.
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_elements&loc=us
 
Aperture ui is a paradigm shift from Adobe one. It works around idea of presenting your stuff to rate and make adjustments to the photos that u are more interested in. Kind like the days when we had negs or slides on top of a light table.

It has batch tools and third party plugins.

Pretty easy to use. I believe Apple may have tutorials posted.

Gary
 
When LR 3 was out, Aperture and LR were almost identical from a quality perspective. I used Aperture for a year because I thought the management of photos was easier. Never got Aperture to work with my variety of external drives that are not always plugged in though. This is something that works so easy with LR. Looking back I think the handling of LR is easier for my needs and with LR 4 the image quality and noise reduction is so much better. Aperture has nothing to offer here.
 
Only issue with trying aperture in my opinion, is investing time and effort in a program apple has already let wither, and will likely kill off at some point.
 
Latest version of Adobe Camera Raw only work together with the latest version of PSE and PS. You can't install ACR 7.4 on your machine and expect your PSE to work with it.
 
back alley said:
now that apple has a fix for the fuji raw files, i was thinking about trying aperture this time around...i am not comfortable with lightroom and my normal software (photoshop elements) does not have a fix for the trans x raw files...

is aperture especially easy or difficult to learn? i like doing basic changes only and have never delved deep into any editing process.
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Joe, I am totally biased, so take this any way that you want to. However, LR is a great tool. Perhaps Aperture is too, but I believe you can learn to use either tool effectively.

I like the way that the LR catalogue works with your images and the support for X-Trans senor images is top notch in version 4.4. Also, if you use a plugin like VSCO film to work with your Fuji images (I highly recommend them), the implementation in LR is better than Aperture, by all accounts.

I have a long history with Adobe products, I designed the first Photoshop packaging while working for Adobe in the early 90's, and have worked with Apple products for decades, and I believe Adobe gets photography and photographers. Not so sure about Apple.

I teach LR workshops here in Victoria, so the next time you are on the west coast, look me up and I will be happy to give you a tutorial! :)

In any case, here are some LR resources, in case you want to learn a bit more online.
 
back alley said:
now that apple has a fix for the fuji raw files, i was thinking about trying aperture this time around...i am not comfortable with lightroom and my normal software (photoshop elements) does not have a fix for the trans x raw files...

is aperture especially easy or difficult to learn? i like doing basic changes only and have never delved deep into any editing process.
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I'm a past Aperture user that's switched to Lightroom. Just curious what's causing you discomfort when you tried Lightroom?

It takes Apple forever compared to Adobe in updating their RAW processor (which is at the system level). Aperture by default manages your image files in one database container. You have to change the default if you want to manage where your image files are located. The current version of Aperture has not been upgraded to a new version in a very long while.

On the other hand, Adobe is constantly updating their software applications. Staying as current as any image processing program. Adobe products are also cross platform compatible. If for some reason you would ever want to move to a windows based platform you won't be able to use Aperture. Whereas, with Lightroom, you would be able to.

You can still run PSE as your main editing program from inside Lightroom as you can Aperture too. Lightroom would then manage organizationally the finished edited file from PSE.

This is a big deal in my book when it comes to the complete control and management of your digital assets. Its not just where you're keeping the files, how you're editing them put the entire process from ingesting the images from your camera (keywording, location (GPS), file organization) to having the latest raw conversion engine, best "develop" tools and finally have access to all the output options.

Whatever advantages Aperture may have had in the past, Lightroom has now exceeded those in my opinion.

As part of my recent transition to the switch I paid for George Jardine's Lightroom tutorials. He knows Lightroom inside and out as he worked at Adobe as part of the Lightroom team.

His two tutorial series takes you through every step you need to understand and implement a common sense digital management system.

Here's some of his free stuff to see if how he teaches:

Free tutorial videos

And then the two tutorials:

Lightroom Library Workflow and Digital Photo Library Management

Lightroom Develop Module and Digital Photo Processing
 
I tried LR on trial and did not get their UI. Being a Mac user and used iPhoto for simple edits, Aperture was a easy transition for me. I use Nix Silver Efex and based on a recent huge cost reduction, Color Efex. Hope this helped.....
 
Duane Pandorf said:
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It takes Apple forever compared to Adobe in updating their RAW processor (which is at the system level). .......... The current version of Aperture has not been upgraded to a new version in a very long while.

On the other hand, Adobe is constantly updating their software applications. Staying as current as any image processing program.
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I know that Adobe budgets spending for new product enhancements from that product's sales both new and upgrades. Given Lightroom's popularity, they have much to fund continuing development. I do not know if the Apple software business model is similar but I suspect it is. I expect the Lightroom's superior position in the marketplace will continue to push enhancements much quicker than Aperture.

I only wish I understood Lightroom half as well as I do the Adobe business model.
 
Now that Apple has updated Aperture for X-Trans, my big gripe is gone (for now). I've been an Aperture user since it's inception, and bought and used Lightroom in it's previous iteration (not a current version).

Aperture is my preferred method of cataloging and editing. For image work, it does great for basic work. Generally, if I'm after a particular "look" instead of a great, neutral RAW file, I'll export to a Nik program (Silver Efex Pro, Color Efex Pro, Viveza) for finishing.

I like the Apple ecosystem, and I'm satisfied, but the slow X-Trans support had me considering the latest Lightroom package. Glad it worked out for me. Aperture is great.
 
Aperture is simple to learn and simple to use. It's as much worth giving a try as any other similar kind of application.
 
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