Steve Bellayr
Veteran
"The meter is only a guide bracket your shots...consider yourself lucky if you get one good photograph per roll."
back alley
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Bob, I wonder if the same benefit is achieved by using digital, or is it just too quick and easy. Film involves a greater commitment of time and money. Since there is more at stake with film, the process may have a more profound effect. It would be interesting to put this to a test using 2 groups of photographers/students, one group using film, the other digital, and see if there is a difference in effect from this process. Hey, maybe you could apply for a grant!![]()
digital is not necessarily quicker or easier if the commitment to getting a good shot is there and film does not necessarily involve a greater commitment. many folks here use film and have never set foot into a darkroom. the 'greats' did not all do their own darkroom work either.
i am really new to digital but my process has changed very little. i can home home from a saturday shoot with 3 frames on my media card.
PMCC
Late adopter.
"The lens cap is still on." - My youngest.
"When you are dead, you stop learning." - Anon.
"When you are dead, you stop learning." - Anon.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
I don't know if there would be much difference in this assignment- as the learning is in the seeing, or the way of seeing. I suppose a card with a similar number of available 'frames' would work just as well. Fill a 512 card in one room in one hour?
Part of it for me was the dread upon loading that second roll of film that there was 'nothing left to shoot' knowing that there was three times more left to do. This bit would be lost with digital- unless one arrived with four 125 cards to fill...
Part of it for me was the dread upon loading that second roll of film that there was 'nothing left to shoot' knowing that there was three times more left to do. This bit would be lost with digital- unless one arrived with four 125 cards to fill...
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st3ph3nm
Guest
"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough". Robert Capa.
Talking street photography, this is really good advice. One day I'll get the guts to get in there!
Talking street photography, this is really good advice. One day I'll get the guts to get in there!
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acheyj
Well-known
Of course that doesnt always mean a short distance away !
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st3ph3nm
Guest
Of course that doesnt always mean a short distance away !
Actually, that's a very good point, and one that hadn't struck me, thanks. Knowing the subject is key, you think?
Though I still believe that his best photos are when he's so close that the subject fills the frame - saluting soldiers, gesticulating politicians, etc. And when shooting people, my better photos are also when I'm up close and personal.
aad
Not so new now.
Shooting what I want, instead of trying to shoot like someone else whose work I admire.
Vagabond
Accomplished Malingerer
Talent is rarely distinguishable from perseverance and hard work.
The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.
I'm sorry that I don't remember where these came from but I considered them important enough to write down.
Bill
The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.
I'm sorry that I don't remember where these came from but I considered them important enough to write down.
Bill
Anton Caro
Member
"Your legs are the best zoom..."
"Your tripod is the best lens..."
"If you think whether it worths shooting... better do not...you should be sure it worths..."
... and one moment I do not understand in digital - people shoot and if the card is full, they start deleting some photos... I would never do this. I never throw any sigle slide.
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"Your tripod is the best lens..."
"If you think whether it worths shooting... better do not...you should be sure it worths..."
... and one moment I do not understand in digital - people shoot and if the card is full, they start deleting some photos... I would never do this. I never throw any sigle slide.
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Roger Hicks
Veteran
Talent does what it can; genius does what it must. (Edward Bulwer-Lutton)
Talent borrows; genius steals. (Various attributions)
Cheers,
R.
Talent borrows; genius steals. (Various attributions)
Cheers,
R.
rolleistef
Well-known
Shoot before thinking!
Photography is putting on the same line the eye, the heart and the head (free translation of Cartier-Bresson)
You're in fault, not the camera.
Photography is putting on the same line the eye, the heart and the head (free translation of Cartier-Bresson)
You're in fault, not the camera.
M. Valdemar
Well-known
Carlsen Highway
Well-known
"If it works, it's art."
(From my high school art teacher.)
(From my high school art teacher.)
JTK
Established
Richard Avedon summarizes his approach to photography, a sort of philosophy combined with his technique, in three paragraphs in "In The West"...
If you admire Avedon as much as I do (he's one of my Big 3 or 4 with Weston, Penn, and Brandt )you may already have the book..well worth the $40 I just paid for a good used copy...I'll transcribe those three paragraphs when I can take the time
If you admire Avedon as much as I do (he's one of my Big 3 or 4 with Weston, Penn, and Brandt )you may already have the book..well worth the $40 I just paid for a good used copy...I'll transcribe those three paragraphs when I can take the time
Nh3
Well-known
lol you're truly a mean old man.
filippos
Newbie
"You just have to live,and then life will give you pictures" H.C.Bresson
amateriat
We're all light!
That would be Woody Allen: "Eighty percent of success is showing up."Isn't it 90% of life is showing up?
Believe it. Just watch those land mines..."If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough". Robert Capa.
And, there are too many other worthy quotes that are relevant to this (the OP's post sums it up rather nicely for me). But the quote I keep in mind most is the one most-famously uttered by the gentleman holding my camera below.

Me and EW (a big-time Leica guy, BTW)
- Barrett
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sonwolf
Established
"New images surround us everywhere. They are invisible only because of sterile routine, convention, and fear"
--Lisette Model
"Photography's technicalities are the eternal refuge of the unimaginative camera buff"
--Peter Galassi
--Lisette Model
"Photography's technicalities are the eternal refuge of the unimaginative camera buff"
--Peter Galassi
swoop
Well-known
"When you are younger, the camera is like a friend and you can go places and feel like you're with someone, like you have a companion."
-Annie Leibovitz
"Work alone if you can. Girls are particularly distracting, and you want to concentrate; you have to. This is not anti-feminism; it is common sense. Companions you may be with, unless perfectly patient and slavish to your genius, are bored stiff with what you're doing. This will make itself felt and ruin your concentrated, sustained purpose.
-Walker Evans
"If you are a real artist, you give your whole being to your art. Anything short of that, then you are not an artist."
-Miranda Grey
And my own personal philosophy and what I endeavor to do with my camera. Photograph verbs.
-Annie Leibovitz
"Work alone if you can. Girls are particularly distracting, and you want to concentrate; you have to. This is not anti-feminism; it is common sense. Companions you may be with, unless perfectly patient and slavish to your genius, are bored stiff with what you're doing. This will make itself felt and ruin your concentrated, sustained purpose.
-Walker Evans
"If you are a real artist, you give your whole being to your art. Anything short of that, then you are not an artist."
-Miranda Grey
And my own personal philosophy and what I endeavor to do with my camera. Photograph verbs.
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