Thoughts on a recent shooting assignment with film Leicas

What an adventure! But I have to say the photographs look really good!

And when it comes to film - I think for myself that one has to accept that you "can't get it all". Position and anticipation are really good things, together with some cool nerves and a bit of luck here and there.
 
This was really a terrific story. Thank you very much. Too often we hear these wonderful stories from professionals who have done thousands of events, or at least it seems that way when you read them.

The reality for most of us is much as you have related. We are experienced but when we are asked to take some pictures for a friend of a one time event there comes a completely different level of expectation, from ourselves mostly.

I am glad that this turned out well but the experience itself is really worth more than the photographs that were taken. I applaud your willingness to use film. Too often we fall back to digital even though our best option was really film. It takes guts to step up and take those pictures with the camera and the lens you felt was best, though I'm sure you had serious doubts it was the right thing. The next time you will have a little more confidence in yourself, the next time even more. Just remember to believe in yourself.

And don't worry about the kids, I'm glad you took them with you. They have also come away with wonderful memories of their own.
 
I was going to make this point actually, had you used an M9 I'm not convinced it offers that big an advantage.
My limited experience using one, I found shooting wide open was less predictable than with film forcing you to stop down a bit therefore losing the iso advantage, but it is my limited experience, I don't know that M9 owners would agree.

I agree on one point, counter to the OP's hope: the M9 LCD will not tell you whether you nailed the focus or not with C Sonnar. I do agree with the post above about f2.8 focussing well enough on a so-called f1.5 optimized lens, and especially on film.
 
Beautiful shots sleepyhead,
You nailed the focus with the Tele-Elmarit in particular. I love the softer tonality of that film. It reminds me of Kodak VPS that I used to use for weddings.
 
Some shots from the church part of the day. I'm not as happy with these as with the portraits above where I could take my time and pick a location.

This was clearly the most difficult for me as the light was pretty dim, the church was very crowded, and I didn't have free access to position myself at will. When the kids came in the church and when they left, I pretty much had a chance to only fire off 1-2 shots at most.

The group portrait outside the church came out OK though.

The group of kids coming into the church (35mm Summicron IV)
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Crowded church (50mm Zeiss C-Sonnar)
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Going up to the altar (35mm Summicron IV)
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The priest gives his shpeel (90mm Fat Tele-Elmarit)
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Leaving the church (35mm Summicron IV)
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Leaving the church (35mm Summicron IV)
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Group portrait outside the church (Zeiss 50mm C-Sonnar)
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By the way, the church is the Roskilde Domkirke, one of the most exalted churches in Denmark, where many of the kings and queens for the last 1000 years are buried. Definitely worth a visit if you are ever nearby.
 
Great set of Photos!
i told you not too worry..we all do!
Even long time pros.
The book must be great.

Looking at screens will not confirm exact focus or even blur.
Looking at screens wastes precious "seeing" times.
I never used Polaroids on Fashion shoots.
OK.I never used Polaroid,period.
Using film makes one way more careful, cost, time reloading.

I keep getting ready to BUY a DSLR or EVF.
I hold my film cameras and the "want" is gone.

I do use digital, always a Point and shoot very small camera.
Anyone late on this thread, read the whole thing!
Thank you for starting the post and finally seeing the results..
 
OK, last installment of photos from the day: the dinner and speeches and opening gifts.

Father giving a speech (35mm Summicron)
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Relative giving a speech (35mm Summicron)
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Opening presents (35mm Summicron with indirect electronic flash)
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SOME FINAL WORDS:
I shot only 2.5 rolls of film for this event. Those photos got edited down to about 30 which I included in a photobook as my gift to the confirmation girl. She was pleased, as were her parents.

REGARDING EQUIPMENT: since this shoot, I've sold the 2 Leica M4-Ps and the Zeiss 50mm Sonnar. The 2 bodies went towards a Leica M9 (loving it!), and the Zeiss 50mm got replaced by a second-version CV 50mm f/1.5 Nokton (loving it!).

Next time, if shooting a similar event, I would still bring the same 4 focal lengths: 28, 35, 50, 90. I really didn't miss anything wider.

But one thing I would do differently is TO SHOOT MORE. This will be fascilitated by using the M9 instead of 2 film bodies. In looking through the photos again after not seeing them for several months, I found myself wishing I had more interior shots of the church (especially with the 28mm Summicron), and many more pictures from the dinner and party. In group shots of people at parties, it just takes one person to have a strange momentary expression to ruin an otherwise good picture.
 
Good move if you want to have more frames.
But honestly.
Two and half rolls for event!
I wouldn't even bother to look into this thread if it was on digital.
Something I do and ... No thrills.
 
Yaron,

This is the first time I've seen the thread. Your description of the event, etc, is great, and quite typical of these sorts of situations. The photos you posted show that you did pretty well regardless. I'd be proud of what you achieved.

Whether film or digital, RF or SLR ... doesn't matter much in my experience. The key to succeeding at these events is knowing whatever equipment you have well, knowing the event, and working it thoroughly. The advantage of digital over film in these circumstances is that it gives you more options. Modern digital cameras have more sensitivity to work with, you can pick and choose what ISO setting works best for the situation, and you can quickly check to see whether your settings are on the mark or not.

Beyond that, you're dead right in that to get the best results you should shoot more: This is harder with film as you have to take into account the time it takes to rewind and reload, but it leads to the same goal. Shooting more doesn't mean you show a tiresome plethora of boringly similar shots, it means you have more options to choose from when selecting the 10-30 good ones. Shooting more also doesn't mean that you just press the button a bazillion times, it means you spend the same time, effort, and care on every shot—you just shoot more of them—so that you HAVE more to choose from of comparable quality.

BTW: I just don't understand comments like "I wouldn't have looked at this thread if it was on digital." That seems indicative of a closed mind, not a photographer.

I had a similar opportunity to shoot the First Communion of my partner's niece earlier this year. I had no opportunity to visit the church beforehand as they live several states away and we only had the time to fly in on Friday, attend the event on Saturday, and fly home Sunday afternoon.

I chose to bring my Olympus E-M1 rather than the M9 for this event because I knew from previous events like this that I'd need a 90mm EFoV lens for most of the shooting and the E-M1 would enable me to also capture a couple of quick videos, which the parents would enjoy. A wide and a normal*lens came along as well, but I found the portrait tele did the job best for most of the shots I made. One curious thing I found is that, because of the complexity of scenes with subjects at all distances distracting the AF system, I use manual focus most of the time—so it was really rather more like shooting with the M9 than it might seem otherwise.

I made about the same number of exposures as you did ... about 100 ... and should have made more. That said, about a dozen or so finished photos (two portraits of Michele, a stitched composite of the entire first communion group, a short video and a still of Michele in the act of receiving her communion, and a few shots of the family party afterwards) were produced which the parents and my partner were happy with. The stitched group shot made a splendid huge canvas wrap print that I sent to the mother as a birthday gift in October.

When church and event officials got in the way for a critical shot or three, I pushed past them, made the shots, and thanked them for helping me do what I went there to do. After a couple of nasty looks, they began to understand and started to actually help me get the shots I wanted. This seems to be the standard issue at all event photography that I found even when I was doing this sort of thing for a living. The photographer simply has to assert that he or she is there to do a job, not just to get in the way, and gently nudge the officials into lending a hand.

I've done many events of this type with film and digital, SLRs and RFs, over the past half-century. Be prepared, know whatever equipment you're using well, and focus on the work to be done: that's what nets the best results. You did well; I hope to see the next time you do a similar job and look forward to hearing what you have to say about it with this experience behind you.

best,
G
 
OK, last installment of photos from the day: the dinner and speeches and opening gifts.

Father giving a speech (35mm Summicron)
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I've followed this thread from the beginning, and this shot tells the whole story for me. Absolutely beautiful.

Well done on the whole assignment, and I hope you're M9 gets you shots like this, else I'd be buying another film M...

Cheers,
Michael
 
We are experienced but when we are asked to take some pictures for a friend of a one time event there comes a completely different level of expectation, from ourselves mostly.

Just remember to believe in yourself.

Thank you for sharing your experience.
I'd like to say that you should have faith in your technique and not 2nd guess yourself in such situations. With your experience (20 years you said?), the technical aspect of 'shooting' should not be undermined.

I do assignments myself (for spare cash), and member (Pioneer, quoted above), sums it up really nicely. It is our own mentality during an assignment that we should focus on.

As a designated 'photographer' we have to practice a shift in mindset during a shoot. We cannot be passive and sit back, instead, fight for a position to get that composition, think much faster, and 'go all out' for that keeper of a shot.

At the end of the day, Pioneer sums it again nicely "different level of expectation from ourselves".

Great shots by the way!
 

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