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To me: "Leitz is not worth twice the Zeiss price!"
you just wanted to say 'twice the zeiss price'

you just wanted to say 'twice the zeiss price'
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
George S is right: if there is an "ignore" option, it should work. But FrankS is also right. Here's a parallel. We don't photograph all that we see, do we?
Bertram2
Gone elsewhere
Skinny McGee said:I agree with Frank...
i would say you are limiting your photo education by cutting out things you don't agree with... to learn is to question....
If so fine for me as long as you don't speak about the personal "shortcomings/weaknesses" of folks who prefer to let the system remove irrelevant or annoying people. And as long as you don't suspect those to be wimps .
That's simply offensive, nothing else.
I have no imagination btw what I could learn from agressive "know-all-better" people with crappy manners ? And this kinda people are on my ignore list solely, not all those I don't agree with ? Cant' t see where your learning remark refers to the issue ?
bertram
Bryan Lee
Expat Street Photographer
Bertram2 said:If so fine for me as long as you don't speak about the personal "shortcomings/weaknesses" of folks who prefer to let the system remove irrelevant or annoying people. And as long as you don't suspect those to be wimps .
That's simply offensive, nothing else.
I have no imagination btw what I could learn from agressive "know-all-better" people with crappy manners ? And this kinda people are on my ignore list solely, not all those I don't agree with ? Cant' t see where your learning remark refers to the issue ?![]()
bertram
Nice coming from A2, You have some of the worst manners on this forum
FrankS
Registered User
I promise to practice what I preach with regards to this thread. It's going no place good.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
I suspect Jorge made a decision early on, when designing the context-sensitive menus, NOT to include an "Add User_X to Your Ignore List" menu item. The function is there, however, along with adding buddies, when you click "User CP" -> "Buddy / Ignore Lists".
And that makes sense if the designer did not wish to impart a message to new users that things can get so ugly here that they would have to ignore someone?
Hence we can establish that there are at least two types of users here. Newbies and the regulars who have hopefully learned certain rules of conduct and how to successfully steer away from flame wars. I suspect that more that 50% of the "newbies" do not or will not behave in the same way, however.
Therefore I suggest extended ignore features for regulars only. However a regular is defined is irrelevent. Most probably it will be implemented as a minimum number of posts or a minimum membership period or both.
A regular would have access to a 2nd-level context-sensitive menu, as shown in the attached screenshot. I haven't bothered to create a preferences dialog for this set of features, just because it still seems like most of you find this manner of censorship unnecessary, contrary to the "spirit" of RFF, and/or something else already mentioned.
I suppose I just need at least 25 other users to signal that this is a desired feature. Otherwise I will just leave it alone. Bertram seems to be in, anyone else?
Remember that feature requests (user requirements) are not automatically implemented. They are just specified, prioritized and maybe, eventually coded. Coding and testing a new set of features takes a lot of time and money to get right, so don't be too hard on me please. It probably wont get implemented because it doesn't have a high priority for most of the users who have responded here.
Best Regards & Happy RF-Shooting
And that makes sense if the designer did not wish to impart a message to new users that things can get so ugly here that they would have to ignore someone?
Hence we can establish that there are at least two types of users here. Newbies and the regulars who have hopefully learned certain rules of conduct and how to successfully steer away from flame wars. I suspect that more that 50% of the "newbies" do not or will not behave in the same way, however.
Therefore I suggest extended ignore features for regulars only. However a regular is defined is irrelevent. Most probably it will be implemented as a minimum number of posts or a minimum membership period or both.
A regular would have access to a 2nd-level context-sensitive menu, as shown in the attached screenshot. I haven't bothered to create a preferences dialog for this set of features, just because it still seems like most of you find this manner of censorship unnecessary, contrary to the "spirit" of RFF, and/or something else already mentioned.
I suppose I just need at least 25 other users to signal that this is a desired feature. Otherwise I will just leave it alone. Bertram seems to be in, anyone else?
Remember that feature requests (user requirements) are not automatically implemented. They are just specified, prioritized and maybe, eventually coded. Coding and testing a new set of features takes a lot of time and money to get right, so don't be too hard on me please. It probably wont get implemented because it doesn't have a high priority for most of the users who have responded here.
Best Regards & Happy RF-Shooting
Bertram2
Gone elsewhere
Kevin said:I suspect Jorge made a decision early on, when designing the context-sensitive menus, NOT to include an "Add User_X to Your Ignore List" menu item.
Kevin,
I would not have any objections against the more differentiated handling of the ignore feature tho I personally do not really need it.
What i would second anyway is to make threads started by ingnored members invisible and it would be very nice if the thread mailer would know this list too.
It does not makes much sense to let this door open
I know very well tho that this has nothing to do with customizing but needs modified code.
Maybe an improvement easier to create ( which would not slow down the thread mailer by checking 5000 member's ignore lists) would be adding the name of the posting member in the mail's subject line, as mailing liszs do it:
Old: Reply to thread "All talk no photo ?"
New: "Quatschkopf" replied to thread "All talk no photo ?"
At least could delete the message then unopened as I can do it on a mailing list. Not perfect but better than now.
Regards,
bertram
Andy K
Well-known
Or Jorge could just set up a special Gasbag forum.
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ch1
Guest
back alley said:To me: "Leitz is not worth twice the Zeiss price!"
you just wanted to say 'twice the zeiss price'
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Ya' caught me out, Joe.
I just couldn't resist the allitteration!
Flinor
Well-known
Well, let's see now,
"uninformed minds and even a few brainless people"
"worthless trash"
"lonely or frustrated"
"form into cliques and that's not really a bad thing"
"leader who interfaces with other cliques"
"things can get so ugly here"
"extended ignore for regulars only"
Give me a break. This is a camera enthusiasts forum and it used to be a pretty nice place.
"uninformed minds and even a few brainless people"
"worthless trash"
"lonely or frustrated"
"form into cliques and that's not really a bad thing"
"leader who interfaces with other cliques"
"things can get so ugly here"
"extended ignore for regulars only"
Give me a break. This is a camera enthusiasts forum and it used to be a pretty nice place.
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don't judge us all gerry by the words of a few...
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nwcanonman
Guest
Joe,
We should remember, those who live with glass lenses; shouldn't hurl insults - LOL.
If I've offended anyone, I apoligize. And feel free to put me on your 'Ignore' list. Giggle.
We should remember, those who live with glass lenses; shouldn't hurl insults - LOL.
If I've offended anyone, I apoligize. And feel free to put me on your 'Ignore' list. Giggle.
parks5920
Well-known
A 'Full Of It' forum would be nice too!
Andy K said:Or Jorge could just set up a special Gasbag forum.
XAos
Well-known
back alley said:ok, i wanna know!
who has me on their ignore list?
oh crap, they wont see this!
Actually this is one of the aggrevating parts right here about ignore the time or two I've used it on other forums. People quoting the ignored person's words. So to all you back alley haters Bwa ha ha aha ha!
Andy K
Well-known
I think the funniest thing you can read on any forum is the self-righteous declaration of 'Welcome to my ignore list!' If you are going to place someone on your ignore list, just do it. Shouting about it afterwards is just petty.
Here's another idea, maybe Jorge could program some 'cyber beach towels', so that cliques can 'virtually' throw their 'cyber beach towels' over any thread they feel should be reserved for their eyes only...
Here's another idea, maybe Jorge could program some 'cyber beach towels', so that cliques can 'virtually' throw their 'cyber beach towels' over any thread they feel should be reserved for their eyes only...
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XAos said:Actually this is one of the aggrevating parts right here about ignore the time or two I've used it on other forums. People quoting the ignored person's words. So to all you back alley haters Bwa ha ha aha ha!
So to all you back alley haters...
gee, it sounds like there's a club out there or something...
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Todd.Hanz
Guest
I find duct tape works well to hide the comments of the undesirables, I just stick it across my monitior 
Todd
Todd
yossarian
Well-known
This thread has done busted the glass right outta the Goofy Meter.
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nwcanonman
Guest
...................back alley said:So to all you back alley haters...
gee, it sounds like there's a club out there or something...![]()
Wait A MINUTE!
There are RFF members who hate Joe??? :bang:
Them's be fight'n words
RJBender
RFF Sponsoring Member
Bertram2 said:Frank,
you decribed exactly what I consider this feature to be for me personally . As wimpy I would not consider myself tho.
Reminds me to somebody on a mailing list whose posts I always delete unread since quite a while. He claimed once that automatic gearboxes are for wimps.
bertram
Actually, the word used was not "wimps" if you read it on this forum.
R.J.
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