DennisM
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keytarjunkie
no longer addicted
Yeah, well, no. But these programs have enormous potential for image creation as they continue to improve.
With commercial photography these tools will be able to create realistic images of whatever you want almost instantaneously. It's easy to see how this would be a less expensive alternative to a large scale production in some or all cases in the future. The technology still has a ways to go before it can get there, for example DALLE2 is still horrible at spelling and writing words. Google's Imagen is still closed to the public but is apparently much better at writing in english.
There's a lot of gray areas around copyright and ethics. Who created the image? Is it the AI, the developer, the source material, the person who writes the prompt? A lot of the arguments against AI imagery - especially as an artistic product - remind me of how painters responded to the creation of photography. And also of Duchamp's Fountain. Writing a prompt to create the image you're after requires creativity and knowledge of how the program works. I'd anticipate many members here to have a very negative reaction to this technology. In response, I would first encourage you to play around with the free tool Craiyon. It's basic but gives you an idea of what's going on. Then if you're more ambitious, sign up for DALLE2 and Midjourney (these typically cost money to use, but include a few images for free). I have been using these programs for a few months and really impressed with the images they produce.
With commercial photography these tools will be able to create realistic images of whatever you want almost instantaneously. It's easy to see how this would be a less expensive alternative to a large scale production in some or all cases in the future. The technology still has a ways to go before it can get there, for example DALLE2 is still horrible at spelling and writing words. Google's Imagen is still closed to the public but is apparently much better at writing in english.
There's a lot of gray areas around copyright and ethics. Who created the image? Is it the AI, the developer, the source material, the person who writes the prompt? A lot of the arguments against AI imagery - especially as an artistic product - remind me of how painters responded to the creation of photography. And also of Duchamp's Fountain. Writing a prompt to create the image you're after requires creativity and knowledge of how the program works. I'd anticipate many members here to have a very negative reaction to this technology. In response, I would first encourage you to play around with the free tool Craiyon. It's basic but gives you an idea of what's going on. Then if you're more ambitious, sign up for DALLE2 and Midjourney (these typically cost money to use, but include a few images for free). I have been using these programs for a few months and really impressed with the images they produce.
Saganich
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Yea, I just made this from a prompt, first time hearing about these. If you are creative with literature and writing the prompts should yield interesting results; if you promp 'pinto beans', then you just get a photo of pinto beans. Also, I can tell from my prompt "existential crisis" that humanity likely understands that as being a concept of personal struggle rather then a global one, so it's no wonder the term applied to planetary problems falls flat with people.
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AI vs NS. NS wins.
kshapero
South Florida Man
What is NS?
kshapero
South Florida Man
Maybe we should throw away ourselves, as I hear AI can do that, too.
Saganich
Established
Warning, too much caffeine and AI is bad.
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
I'll stick with my film cameras, thank you. Imagine, actually engaging with the real world. What a concept!
keytarjunkie
no longer addicted
"Portrait of Retro-Grouch, an angry old man typing at his laptop surrounded by a collection of vintage film cameras"
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
Wow, you nailed it. Right down to the sullen glower!
keytarjunkie
no longer addicted
I thought it was pretty funny!seany65
Well-known
That may just be the real purpose of "A.I."
Artificial Intelligence versus Natural Stupidity. Back in 1982 I told the Ai group at work that they were no match against NS.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I saw the thread title and immediately thought of our Al Kaplan… RIP.