Muggins
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chippy said:
http://www.collection-appareils.fr/Welta/html/superfekta.php
Surely not? as a first TLR? Wow!
We'd very much like to see pics of it!
Adrian
(who knows, one day a TLR owner?)
chippy
foo was here
Superfekta
Superfekta
Thanks for the interest guys-i must admit i was pretty amazed upon receiving it and have just been tenderly playing with it. it still covered in grime and all but the bellows, shutter, lens and film advance ect are all good.
i hope these pics turn out ok. Just snaps on the kitchen bench. i have never uploaded anything before. So it will be a surprise for me if they look alright. and this digital is an antique itself as far as digitals go, i think the camera on my phone is better actualy!
as you can hopfully see from the pics it rotates for landscape view or portrait, the frame mask in the waist level finder is meant to change along with the orientation automatically. Obviously it folds to make it more compact between shoots lol..
it has compur rapid 1-400 and the tessar 3,5..the top offering in the day. from a few catalogues in the day it appears it cost around $120-$130+ US which places it in the high end i guess (about twice to three times of most other regular decent cameras-not counting kodaks!) ,though still somewhat cheaper than a lieca or contax II or contaflex 35mm f1.5-f2.0 which were emerging at the time.
Superfekta
Thanks for the interest guys-i must admit i was pretty amazed upon receiving it and have just been tenderly playing with it. it still covered in grime and all but the bellows, shutter, lens and film advance ect are all good.
i hope these pics turn out ok. Just snaps on the kitchen bench. i have never uploaded anything before. So it will be a surprise for me if they look alright. and this digital is an antique itself as far as digitals go, i think the camera on my phone is better actualy!
as you can hopfully see from the pics it rotates for landscape view or portrait, the frame mask in the waist level finder is meant to change along with the orientation automatically. Obviously it folds to make it more compact between shoots lol..
it has compur rapid 1-400 and the tessar 3,5..the top offering in the day. from a few catalogues in the day it appears it cost around $120-$130+ US which places it in the high end i guess (about twice to three times of most other regular decent cameras-not counting kodaks!) ,though still somewhat cheaper than a lieca or contax II or contaflex 35mm f1.5-f2.0 which were emerging at the time.
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Veteran
So my wife & I have been kicking around the idea of a year in Europe to start our retirement out right. After much mulling and cussing and trial & error, I've decided that the Rollei will be the best camera for that long & varied trip. I have two of them, so that takes care of the back-up camera question, I intend to shoot all B&W, probably all HP5+, and I'll carry a couple of filters (I usually leave the yellow filter on anyway.) I'll also take a very compact kit for developing the film and making contact sheets, leaving the real printing till we get back home. It's been tough deciding, forom among Leica M, Nikon F, Contax IIIa, but I'm now sure that this is the simplest and therefore the best solution.
Vic
Vic
Muggins
Junk magnet
chippy said:
Slobberslobberslobber!
Wow! I used to think that my Purma Special was weird, but the Superfekta takes the biscuit. I'm very very very jealous!
Adrian
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tedwhite
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Superfekta looks like a Rube Goldberg design, but I'll bet when you get it up and running it's gonna take good pictures.
chippy
foo was here
LOL your funny adrian the way you put things...
yep she is a bit of wierd girl and from the mid thirties she's apt to have few wrinkles too...and kinda looks a little pear shaped when you turn her on the side!! however although she is a heavy mechanical peice she is free moving from one format to another and fires off at any and all speeds requested. 1 second so far appears exactly that, and 1/400 seems better than some cameras i have 20+ years later with CLA..this ol girl deserves to show what she can do so i hope she can sooner or later.....although she will never be able to compete with the digital tarts
yep she is a bit of wierd girl and from the mid thirties she's apt to have few wrinkles too...and kinda looks a little pear shaped when you turn her on the side!! however although she is a heavy mechanical peice she is free moving from one format to another and fires off at any and all speeds requested. 1 second so far appears exactly that, and 1/400 seems better than some cameras i have 20+ years later with CLA..this ol girl deserves to show what she can do so i hope she can sooner or later.....although she will never be able to compete with the digital tarts
oftheherd
Veteran
chippy said:
Well I'll be ...
That is a little different. I have the Perfekta. It is 6x6. I didn't know Welta had a folding 6x9 TLR. I know they had two models of their 6x6 folder. I can't really tell from your photo. Are you sure that is 6x9? That has to be one of the rarest cameras around. Take good care and do use it. What a blast, being able to rotate the thing. I don't think mine does, nor did I ever hear of anyone saying theirs did. I had thought of seeing if I could get the mirror on mine out for resilvering, but it is usable, so I am in no hurry. I hope you can show us some shots from that. I find mine amazingly sharp, but then what the heck, it is a Zeiss lens.
Jimbo
Newbie
I'v owned an E 3.5 planar, an F3.5 planar, and now an E 2.8 planar and a Rollei 'T' tessar. I love(ed) them all. I use the last two for super-sharp black & white. They don't jump out of your grip when the shutter is released. The issue is trying to hear IF the shutter has been released. The interior baffeling is legendary. I just wish there were some B & W chemicals I'm not allergic to.
If you don't have a manual, I should add that you can get an intentional double exposure by reversing the collar around the winding lever. It took me two generations to uncover this. Both my 3.5 planar cameras sometimes did not fire off on the first shot, after sitting for a while.
If you don't have a manual, I should add that you can get an intentional double exposure by reversing the collar around the winding lever. It took me two generations to uncover this. Both my 3.5 planar cameras sometimes did not fire off on the first shot, after sitting for a while.
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tedwhite
Guest
Jimbo: Can you get that C41 BW film in 120 size?
That would get you away from the chemistry. Too bad you don't live here - I'd develop all your BW film for you.
That would get you away from the chemistry. Too bad you don't live here - I'd develop all your BW film for you.
GeneW
Veteran
Here's my newest TLR acquisition -- a sporty, YashicaMat 124G with post-mount Gordy strap & pad:
After owning a Rolleiflex 3.5F Planar for over 30 yrs, I sold it to a young photographer who has become passionate about MF. It was a beautiful cam with a superb lens, but for my taste, just a little too nice for a user. I like a cam I don't mind tossing into a bag and not worrying about too much. So I picked up a Minolta Autocord and this YashicaMat.
Gene
After owning a Rolleiflex 3.5F Planar for over 30 yrs, I sold it to a young photographer who has become passionate about MF. It was a beautiful cam with a superb lens, but for my taste, just a little too nice for a user. I like a cam I don't mind tossing into a bag and not worrying about too much. So I picked up a Minolta Autocord and this YashicaMat.
Gene
chippy
foo was here
oftheherd said:Well I'll be ...
That is a little different. I have the Perfekta. It is 6x6. I didn't know Welta had a folding 6x9 TLR. I know they had two models of their 6x6 folder. I can't really tell from your photo. Are you sure that is 6x9? That has to be one of the rarest cameras around. Take good care and do use it. What a blast, being able to rotate the thing. I don't think mine does, nor did I ever hear of anyone saying theirs did. I had thought of seeing if I could get the mirror on mine out for resilvering, but it is usable, so I am in no hurry. I hope you can show us some shots from that. I find mine amazingly sharp, but then what the heck, it is a Zeiss lens.
yep its 6x9 (and different!), thats why it rotates so the subject can still be viewed using the waist level finder, whether in landscape or portrait mode, although it does have one of those pop up sports finders if you just want to hold it on its side without opening the waist level finder. no need for the perfekta to rotate of course as it is a square format. this is a little bigger than the perfekta which is about 16.5x8x6.5cm and the superfekta is20x8.5x7.5. they cost 130 RM and 200 RM respectively in 1939 Germany.
can you get mirrors resilvered? i am not sure where i would get that done. i was thinking of just cutting some 1mm glass mirror and using that, or are mirrors for TLR's different to everyday mirrors? i have noticed that someone on ebay sells various, different size mirrors for TLR,s and if i was lucky one of them may fit.
oftheherd
Veteran
I know I have heard of mirrors being resilvered but I don't recall where. The problem with regular mirrors is that they are silvered on the rear, whereas for TLRs and SLRs they are silvered on the front. Cuts down of unwanted reflections from the glass in front of the silvering.
I am still amazed at Welta. They really came out with some interesting cameras. I love the Welti and Weltini they produced. Both are small and give good results. Some of their MF folders are also compact and give good results. It appears you are a Welta afficionado and have more than I do. I only have about 5 or 6, including a 9x12 that I have never used, even to test. It is a nice looking camera though. I also have a Reflekta 6x6 I have never used. Nice cameras but I am just not crazy about traditional TLRs after getting a Mamiya Super Press 23 many years ago.
Still can't get over a folding 6x9 TLR that rotates the front. Thanks for putting that on view.
I am still amazed at Welta. They really came out with some interesting cameras. I love the Welti and Weltini they produced. Both are small and give good results. Some of their MF folders are also compact and give good results. It appears you are a Welta afficionado and have more than I do. I only have about 5 or 6, including a 9x12 that I have never used, even to test. It is a nice looking camera though. I also have a Reflekta 6x6 I have never used. Nice cameras but I am just not crazy about traditional TLRs after getting a Mamiya Super Press 23 many years ago.
Still can't get over a folding 6x9 TLR that rotates the front. Thanks for putting that on view.
chippy
foo was here
Welta's
Welta's
i'll keep my fingers crossed that i can get a mirror suited to another TLR that will fit.
I must admit i am fasinated by the Welta company and the cameras they made, the history,the quality, workmanship, design, mechanics, the solid feel they have and I think they were ahead of their time in many respects...i think its shame the war came along for this company and for photographers as who knows what they may have produced if they weren't led down the FED path. at any rate i like collecting them, they arnt over popular amongst camera collectors. and although its interesting, warming and not uncommon to come across people like yourself on this site that collect them and know about them, generaly people down at my end of the world havnt even heard of them so its sort of my own little niche
I have way too many cameras, more than i can use really. it seems i cant resist some of them and sometimes think i should take up fishing as a hobby as collecting shiny lures cant be as expensive as cameras LOL. i started with a 6x6 Weltur (in Weltas that is) which is an amazing camera for its day and still an easy to use camera with a host of features, then a 6x9, Then one thing led to another and i found an origonal Welta catalogue from 1939 and have been trying to collect each of them from that ever since. i'm still missing a couple of the low end models that go pretty cheaply (symbol and trio) but thats the difficulty for me here in Australia, as most of these are in germany and those folk often dont use Pay Pal and i cant internationly bank tranfer small sums of foriegn currency. i am still waiting on a Perfekta to arrive, i think it must be comming by sailing ship as its been months already!
amonst my favourites (at the moment at least) and cameras i use regularly are my wooden Thornton Pickard plate cameras (rarely use these! but they are my fav) my Welturs 6x6 & 6x9, Bessa II's w/scopar and heliar, perkeo's, super isolette/speedex, my Super Ikonta C wich is mint/almost new and i marvel at its odd steam engine appearance, just love using it although compared to some other cameras its far more awkward to use,,anyway the are too many to list.
i like that Mamiya of yours i didnt even know of that one, i find it interesting as i have have been considering a mamya 7ii for ease of use and the 6x7 format which enlarges to standard size pictures without cropping. but that model of yours is VERY versitile from what little i have seen! i like system cameras to as i used to use a blad for years and are still acustomed to that sort of thing (which is one reason i like the Suoer Isolette as it uses the EV system... so much of the time i dont use a light meter).
Welta's
i'll keep my fingers crossed that i can get a mirror suited to another TLR that will fit.
I must admit i am fasinated by the Welta company and the cameras they made, the history,the quality, workmanship, design, mechanics, the solid feel they have and I think they were ahead of their time in many respects...i think its shame the war came along for this company and for photographers as who knows what they may have produced if they weren't led down the FED path. at any rate i like collecting them, they arnt over popular amongst camera collectors. and although its interesting, warming and not uncommon to come across people like yourself on this site that collect them and know about them, generaly people down at my end of the world havnt even heard of them so its sort of my own little niche
I have way too many cameras, more than i can use really. it seems i cant resist some of them and sometimes think i should take up fishing as a hobby as collecting shiny lures cant be as expensive as cameras LOL. i started with a 6x6 Weltur (in Weltas that is) which is an amazing camera for its day and still an easy to use camera with a host of features, then a 6x9, Then one thing led to another and i found an origonal Welta catalogue from 1939 and have been trying to collect each of them from that ever since. i'm still missing a couple of the low end models that go pretty cheaply (symbol and trio) but thats the difficulty for me here in Australia, as most of these are in germany and those folk often dont use Pay Pal and i cant internationly bank tranfer small sums of foriegn currency. i am still waiting on a Perfekta to arrive, i think it must be comming by sailing ship as its been months already!
amonst my favourites (at the moment at least) and cameras i use regularly are my wooden Thornton Pickard plate cameras (rarely use these! but they are my fav) my Welturs 6x6 & 6x9, Bessa II's w/scopar and heliar, perkeo's, super isolette/speedex, my Super Ikonta C wich is mint/almost new and i marvel at its odd steam engine appearance, just love using it although compared to some other cameras its far more awkward to use,,anyway the are too many to list.
i like that Mamiya of yours i didnt even know of that one, i find it interesting as i have have been considering a mamya 7ii for ease of use and the 6x7 format which enlarges to standard size pictures without cropping. but that model of yours is VERY versitile from what little i have seen! i like system cameras to as i used to use a blad for years and are still acustomed to that sort of thing (which is one reason i like the Suoer Isolette as it uses the EV system... so much of the time i dont use a light meter).
jja
Well-known
Gene, how do you like the Gordy strap? I'm needing a strap w/ alligator clips for my 'flex, but this may work also. Btw, Yashicamat 124 (non G) was my first TLR; they have great lenses.
GeneW
Veteran
Juan, the Gordy strap works really well on a TLR. I also got one for the Autocord I purchased from you -- it has an odd strap mount, but the post-mount Gordy works a treat on it too. I chose a black one with matching black pad and black string. Looks smart!jja said:
http://www.electricedge.com/gordy_s_straps/store/neck-string-double/index.htm
Gene
jja
Well-known
Thanks, I'll have a look.
dll927
Well-known
I have a Yashicamat 124 (not G) that I bought new in 1970, I think it was.
Have to admit that I haven't used it in a while, since I no longer do my own developing and printing. But I'm not going to part with it, either. It does take right decent pictures, although I've never been overly fond of square prints. So there is nearly always some cropping involved.
Have to admit that I haven't used it in a while, since I no longer do my own developing and printing. But I'm not going to part with it, either. It does take right decent pictures, although I've never been overly fond of square prints. So there is nearly always some cropping involved.
chippy
foo was here
as in my earlier post i mentioned i have recently aquired the Welta superfekta. although it needs primaraly a replacemnt mirror (there are are a couple of other small things) i have not been able to figure out how to get to it,,to replace it! its obviously a rare camera and deserves a little respect, so i am not entirely confortable 'having at it' so to speak...and thought mabye there may be 'qualified people' (they are probably all dead!! no offence to the fantastic dead camera techs) to look to??
so now i am considering what options are open to me and was considering sending it Ken Ruth at Bald mountain....i hear he is good but I have no personal experiance. i made an inquirery and got information on packing and sending it but no idea on rates/charges or turn around time or much else..anyone have any idea what path i should take????
so now i am considering what options are open to me and was considering sending it Ken Ruth at Bald mountain....i hear he is good but I have no personal experiance. i made an inquirery and got information on packing and sending it but no idea on rates/charges or turn around time or much else..anyone have any idea what path i should take????
Muggins
Junk magnet
chippy said:
I know this is a real cheek asking, but... If there was a Perle model in the 1939 range, and the spine of the catalogue is up to it, could I have a scan of it please? I love having the impedimenta that comes with them - like my "Picture Making with the No2 Folding Autographic Brownie" booklets (notice it's picture making, not photo taking!). I've a Perle in need of a little attention, but it's anice little thing and at 6x4.5 easy to carry!
If that's OK, PM me for my email!
Adrian
danphillipsphoto
Newbie
I have an old rolleiflex with a f2.8 lens which is gorgeous if requiring a very deliberate approach, maybe a bit of practice needed