TLR vs MF SLR? Which do you prefer?

Yeh, forget the vibration BS. The Pentax 6x7 is fine, a bunch guys (and I mean male guys) that were fatuous, irreflective, nitwits (that probably never use a Pentax 6x7) put this on the internet 20 years ago and it still lives.

Shutter 1/30 hand held, not great but the same if I did it with a 35mm SLR:

TMY-2 expired HC110h by John Carter, on Flickr
 
Yeh, forget the vibration BS. The Pentax 6x7 is fine, a bunch guys (and I mean male guys) that were fatuous, irreflective, nitwits (that probably never use a Pentax 6x7) put this on the internet 20 years ago and it still lives.

Shutter 1/30 hand held, not great but the same if I did it with a 35mm SLR:

TMY-2 expired HC110h by John Carter, on Flickr

CJC, I used mine off a tripod with an additional lens support and i still couldn't get sharp negatives with the 200 or 300mm. That's when i broke down and sold my Pentax, and switched to 4x5. With the 45 & 105 handheld, i had no problems.
Phil, I have thousands of sharp negatives from 30 years of flying around in Bell 212s. Your carrier photo is cool.....but it's not even sharp on my 13" screen. Like they say, 'your mileage may vary'..... it didn't work for me. I couldn't stand fuzzy 16x20" prints. Yes i know... 'sharpness is a bourgeois concept' but it didn't work for me or my clients.
 
You seem to have an unlimited budget. I envy you. Just teasing. You can see most of us here have had a long and varied journey through many different types of cameras.

Who, me, or OP? 😛 I certainly have had a long and varied journey as well...

I've been lucky in finding almost everything extremely cheaply (the 680 was $200!), spent a few years working at a dealer when everyone was dumping film for digital (and we were literally throwing trade-ins into the dumpster), and friends/relatives that dump their old gear on me (after finally selling off most of my Nikon kit, my brother goes all-in on mirrorless and gives me his whole Nikon F system, and my college roommate just gave me a 5D and some nice lenses).

For the record, as per my other thread, I ended up with a Rolleiflex 6008.

But all that said. I wish I got on with TLRs better. They're really unique to MF and have just as storied a history as Hasselblad or Leica.

I definitely need to get a new focusing screen for the Mamiya, and then maybe it'll be more of an everyday carry for me once I can actually see what I'm looking at clearly.
 
Agree, until you realize everyone on the street is staring at the geek with the strange camera with two lenses, like binoculars turned sideways. Which doesn't do much for candid shooting. In my experience Rolleis aren't especially slow for street shooting but one drawback is you have to wind on after taking one image, which does slow things down a bit. Focussing can be done by estimation.

For all other situation where an arsenal of focal lengths are useful then SLR of course.

Indeed, 'arsenal' is the right word! As a long-time TLR user I accept that one of the best plus-points (there are many) about Rolleis is you can't buy the shipload of fancy (= expensive) brand accessories every SLR owner collects. You learn to make do with the one focal length (usually 75mm-80mm altho' a 55mm and a 135mm cameras were also available at hideous cost) and a few accessories. In the field you do what the early TLR photo guides recommended, if you wanted a wide angle shot you stepped back a few feet, or for a telephoto shot you moved up closer to the subject.

For many of us older photographers Rolleis are ideal because you don't carry much with you other than the camera, a few small bits (lens hood one or two filters) and yes, film. Unless you do like me and cart two Rolleiflex Ts in your backpack.

In summing up, Rolleiflex shooters are often old-fashioned gentlemen (also many ladies) who dote on finicky and fussy old cameras, Edsels, Rolex Oyster watches, Parker 51 fountain pens and the like. In my day I've had Peugeots, Volvos and even a Morgan Four roadster, I wear a 30 year old TAG 2000, my fave pen is a 1980 Mont Blanc from the years before they grew into hot dog wieners, and I play Toscanini symphonies on a restored 1972 Grundig stereo system. I've owned Leica Ms but I now shoot 'miniature' with a Contax G1 kit. So call me ancient - it suits me just fine.
 
Agree, until you realize everyone on the street is staring at the geek with the strange camera with two lenses, like binoculars turned sideways. Which doesn't do much for candid shooting. In my experience Rolleis aren't especially slow for street shooting but one drawback is you have to wind on after taking one image, which does slow things down a bit. Focusing can be done by estimation.

Certainly agree, and its interesting as a sign of the zeitgeist of camera technology: when I took up photography in the midst of the dominance cheap point-and-shoots, an old SLR looked out of place, until DSLRs became commonplace. Now with people shooting with phones and mirrorless, the SLR looks like the odd one out again.

Regardless, TLRs have looked like curiosities for the better part of a half-century. Whenever I actually take out my TLR on the streets, I get endless comments (many of which are "is that a Hasselblad?")

In summing up, Rolleiflex shooters are often old-fashioned gentlemen (also many ladies) who dote on finicky and fussy old cameras, Edsels, Rolex Oyster watches, Parker 51 fountain pens and the like. In my day I've had Peugeots, Volvos and even a Morgan Four roadster, I wear a 30 year old TAG 2000, my fave pen is a 1980 Mont Blanc from the years before they grew into hot dog wieners, and I play Toscanini symphonies on a restored 1972 Grundig stereo system. I've owned Leica Ms but I now shoot 'miniature' with a Contax G1 kit. So call me ancient - it suits me just fine.

I'm in my 30s, but I think we'd get along just fine. My quarantine projects have been getting my 70s B&O back to top shape, and restoring a MB 121 —still think it's their most gorgeous pen. Reminds me I have to get new sacs for my 51 Vac too. Don't have a TAG, but I just bought a winder for my recently overhauled Citizen Bullhead (as worn by Brad Pitt in "Once Upon a Time...In Hollywood!). Feels like such a bourgeois purchase, but I don't move around enough these days to keep it topped up.
 
With my Hasselblads, I consider them to be a studio camera.

I don't think Victor Hasselblad felt that way. Here he is:

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I use my Hasselblads only for outdoor photography.
 
I had Mamiya 645J for very low price. It was working kit. But I never feel it as something I liked.
Old Hasselblad 500 was really something fascinating to hold in hands. But they are priced out to be unreasonable for few rolls per year.
I'm regretting to sell Rolleicord. It was low priced, right after CLA. I didn't use it and sold, but now one of our daughters is interested to try TLR.
Rolleicords are best TLRs, if not entire MF cameras for price, quality, appearance and incredibly good MF pictures. Nothing made in Japan is close to in on darkroom prints.
 
I love both of them. Three Rolleiflexes and three Hasselblads, all mechanical. I would not have it any other way.
 
My Hasselblad 500CM kit was languishing on the cabinet shelf too much of the time since I don't shoot all that much film any more. However, I refrained from selling it off and bought the 907x Special Edition last Summer. It was delivered in March 2020, just before the COVID-19 lockdown.

Now 500CM and its lenses are being used regularly again, courtesy of the 907x's CFVII 50c back. This makes me very happy. 🙂


Bananas
Hasselblad 500CM + CFVII 50c + Distagon 50mm f/4 T*

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When I shot more weddings than product shots, I preferred the smaller size, lighter weight, and quiet operations of my 6x6cm TLR. Now that I do more product shots and fewer weddings, I prefer the larger image size and the through-the-lens viewing of my 6x7cm SLR.


RB67 macro by Narsuitus, on Flickr


Macro by Narsuitus, on Flickr
 
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