shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I agree, but let's be more specific. As an analogy, you guys wouldn't say that the 4x4 Truck magazine or Hot Rod Magazine's are really about all things auto/car, would you?ChrisPlatt said:
There are reasons why they remain to be specialty magazines.
Similarly, RFF needs to maintain its affinity towards everything photographic that emphasizes the style that a Rangefinder camera is strong at. For example, people/street/life/wedding/photojournalism/story-telling/etc. but not macro/sports/wildlife (Why? because it'd be difficult/weird/not exciting to use a rangefinder for these type of photography).
Notice I use the word 'affinity', not blind fanaticism, without a healthy sprinkles of variety and controversy, this forum would be worse than boring.
So, I don't think we'll attract too many SLR fanatics in our Evil SLR sub-forum whose sole intention is to turn RFF into yet another photography forum.
... if we do, we'll convert them into sleek RF photographers in no time, yes?
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Tuolumne
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A forum is more like a conversation than the formal published conetnt of, e.g., a magazine. And just as conversations wander a bit, so do posts in a forum. No harm in that.
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wintoid
Back to film
Does this thread really belong on the Evil SLR forum? Mods mods!!
Seriously, I can't be objective. I was seduced by rangefinders which brought me here. Right now I am being seduced by an SLR, and haven't touched my rangefinders for a while. I'd be sad to have to stop talking about it, and would probably visit progressively less. Then, in a few months, when the RF addiction kicks in again, I'd be less likely to return.
From my selfish perspective, I like this little SLR corner, and don't need it to expand. I'm quite happy keeping the gallery RF only too.
Mods mods!!Seriously, I can't be objective. I was seduced by rangefinders which brought me here. Right now I am being seduced by an SLR, and haven't touched my rangefinders for a while. I'd be sad to have to stop talking about it, and would probably visit progressively less. Then, in a few months, when the RF addiction kicks in again, I'd be less likely to return.
From my selfish perspective, I like this little SLR corner, and don't need it to expand. I'm quite happy keeping the gallery RF only too.
oftheherd
Veteran
Keith said:Send me one ... then you won't be so alone!
Trade one for an OM1? Not!
Sorry, while I can be subject to OM1 GAS as anyone else at current prices, I would never give up an ST for one. It would be like trading a child.
Sparrow
Veteran
If it’s going to be a big church then it’s going to have to be a wide one; I think we are all bright enough to understand that we need to play nicely to be allowed in the sand pit so I don’t really see what the problem is.
I don’t post none RF photos personally, but that’s a discipline I impose on myself I don’t feel I need to impose it on anyone else
I don’t post none RF photos personally, but that’s a discipline I impose on myself I don’t feel I need to impose it on anyone else
vincentbenoit
télémétrique argentique
Same here.jlw said:
Definitely.jlw said:
Vincent
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Matthew55000
6x7 FTW
Ok, I'll bite. Remove your SLR photos. This is a rangefinderforum (check top-left corner if you don't believe me).nikon_sam said:
Also, it's kinda fun you would end with 'Remember...Say what you mean...just don't say it mean...' a couple of sentences after "please have the b*lls to "Name Names"
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ruben
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Will, I feel you as a friend, so I will speak to you more from my heart, than from my brains.
I simply don't get what is really annoying you so much, leading you and other members to propose measures of force, restriction, "discipline" or plain censorship. You have went so far as to use the word "pollution", refering to images, photographic images Will, PICTURES !
The feeling you transmit to me is that you have in front of your eyes a kind of coup de etat or conspiracy to take over RFF, and I frankly don't get it. So there has been lately an Olympus OM festival, but it was just that. What is causing such feelings leading you and other members to go so extreme ?
And from the depht of both my heart and mind, I cannot get why do you and supporters of the same views, feel so weak ? Who is preventing you and your alike thinkers in this case, from taking wise initiatives of opening threads attracting high broad attention ? you are not a man lacking ideas nor opinions.
Therefore if you feel RFF is sliding out of its healthy path, why not competing for the interest of the audience, instead of calling for measures of force ? I simply don't get it, believe me.
I happen to love my OMs, I am ready to sing them prize, but from a certain point in my life i couldn't stand anymore that mirror flap in my face and ears, and that's the end of the story. One day, if i travel overseas and go for postcard type of images, instead of street type, i will take my oms with their teles and will be happy to post the images here, in a separate sub-galllery if you want. But where is the desperation.?
If you read my previous post at this thread, you will hear me quite harsh, but from a totally different angle. If RFF starts to adopt measures of force to remain "pure" then we are becoming a religious sect, maintaining its identity by forcefull isolation.
What about maintaining our identity by open competition ? By example ? by gathering interest where interest is ? Why do you feel debacled in a struggle that hasn't even taken place ?
Since I joined RFF I have been shooting rf exclusively, i am your ally, not your enemy. And what if for some weeks some folks me included went to jocke and exaggerate our adulations for the oms ? Is this an earthquake ?
There are a lot of newcomers asking questions about RFs every day. Give them your heart, your attention, answer them with utmost patience, and you will be achieving our common goal in the most effective way. There is nothing more refreshing and live that being in contact with young people. And these young people flocking RFF are expecting it from you.
So what are we going to show them ? the police stick, or the years of photographic experience we have gathered and they want us to tell ?
Cheers,
Ruben
I simply don't get what is really annoying you so much, leading you and other members to propose measures of force, restriction, "discipline" or plain censorship. You have went so far as to use the word "pollution", refering to images, photographic images Will, PICTURES !
The feeling you transmit to me is that you have in front of your eyes a kind of coup de etat or conspiracy to take over RFF, and I frankly don't get it. So there has been lately an Olympus OM festival, but it was just that. What is causing such feelings leading you and other members to go so extreme ?
And from the depht of both my heart and mind, I cannot get why do you and supporters of the same views, feel so weak ? Who is preventing you and your alike thinkers in this case, from taking wise initiatives of opening threads attracting high broad attention ? you are not a man lacking ideas nor opinions.
Therefore if you feel RFF is sliding out of its healthy path, why not competing for the interest of the audience, instead of calling for measures of force ? I simply don't get it, believe me.
I happen to love my OMs, I am ready to sing them prize, but from a certain point in my life i couldn't stand anymore that mirror flap in my face and ears, and that's the end of the story. One day, if i travel overseas and go for postcard type of images, instead of street type, i will take my oms with their teles and will be happy to post the images here, in a separate sub-galllery if you want. But where is the desperation.?
If you read my previous post at this thread, you will hear me quite harsh, but from a totally different angle. If RFF starts to adopt measures of force to remain "pure" then we are becoming a religious sect, maintaining its identity by forcefull isolation.
What about maintaining our identity by open competition ? By example ? by gathering interest where interest is ? Why do you feel debacled in a struggle that hasn't even taken place ?
Since I joined RFF I have been shooting rf exclusively, i am your ally, not your enemy. And what if for some weeks some folks me included went to jocke and exaggerate our adulations for the oms ? Is this an earthquake ?
There are a lot of newcomers asking questions about RFs every day. Give them your heart, your attention, answer them with utmost patience, and you will be achieving our common goal in the most effective way. There is nothing more refreshing and live that being in contact with young people. And these young people flocking RFF are expecting it from you.
So what are we going to show them ? the police stick, or the years of photographic experience we have gathered and they want us to tell ?
Cheers,
Ruben
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Henryzx
Established
c'mon...as long as those threads stay in SLR forum....not too many of us use/collect exclusive RF cam's
ywenz
Veteran
wow such a heated thread for such an insignificant point. are people actually "freaking out" that there are SLR related posts in RFF? talk about not having enough things to worry about... worry about something more worthwhile.
i equate a thread on SLR concerns akin to something like: "I've noticed that people recently are not capitalizing the first letter of a sentence in their posts. I wonder if RFF members are letter their grammar slip when posting in our forums."
i equate a thread on SLR concerns akin to something like: "I've noticed that people recently are not capitalizing the first letter of a sentence in their posts. I wonder if RFF members are letter their grammar slip when posting in our forums."
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Thardy
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Too many SLR posts?
or
Too many posts about Olympus?
or
Too many posts about Olympus?
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ruben
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Henryzx said:
Not in my case. With my slr gear I am over done. With rf gear it depends a lot, on many factors, Mr K future surprises included. Although Kievs are an issue of irrational love, floating out there regardless of anything at Earth.
Cheers,
Ruben
gb hill
Veteran
If you don't like the SLR post then you ought to stay away. Thats how I see it. There are plenty of topics in other forums to keep one busy. As for me i'm glad to see it. It's a shame all these great old film slrs stuffed away in a closet. I just picked up a 50/1.4ssc lens for my Canon and I am having loads of fun with it, and only gave around 25 dollars for it. As for posting photos I don't wan't to see RFFs gallery with slr photos. I'll have to keep a watch on dslr exchange to see how it develops, but as of right now I don't care for it very much.
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wlewisiii
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I would rather read many SLR posts here, from folks who know and appreciate all cameras, than many other places. Pnet comes to mind.
Now, there are truely good alternates for SLRs - Nelsonfoto to mind - but still, this place was the first one I found that had decency towards all the users & respect towards all styles.
I'd prefer to talk about all of my Canons here.
William
Now, there are truely good alternates for SLRs - Nelsonfoto to mind - but still, this place was the first one I found that had decency towards all the users & respect towards all styles.
I'd prefer to talk about all of my Canons here.
William
jan normandale
Film is the other way
If I want a Buick I go to GM if I want a Toyota I go to... you got it.
If I want to talk specifics on rangefinders, guess where I go. I've got other cameras that aren't RF's and I don't discuss them here. How hard is that for me? Not hard at all.
Keith has made a fair observation.
BTW I can't tell if someone puts up an SLR shot; so I don't think his point's about the image on the 'net
If I want to talk specifics on rangefinders, guess where I go. I've got other cameras that aren't RF's and I don't discuss them here. How hard is that for me? Not hard at all.
Keith has made a fair observation.
BTW I can't tell if someone puts up an SLR shot; so I don't think his point's about the image on the 'net
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ruben
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jan normandale said:
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
If you want a BMW car, you don't complain to the dealer that he's also selling BMW bikes. And if you don't want to read about SLRs, nobody forces you to read the "Evil SLRs" subforum. Problem solved.jan normandale said:
If at some point traffic under "Evil SLRs" develops to the point where it spills out because it's too numerous to live in its little tongue-in-cheek subforum, it gets spun off into a new SLRF community, and everybody can be happy.
Philipp
Finder
Veteran
Well, everyone knows that it is the equipment that defines photography. That is why talent is marginal if you have great gear. And I completely agree with purging non-rangefinder images. All images taken with the following equipment should be deleted:
Holgas
Viewfinder folding cameras
Lomos and other plastic cameras
Widelux, Noblex, Horseman, Linholf panoramic cameras
Brooks Veriwide
Alpa
Viewcameras without rangefinders
Bessa L
Zeiss Icon super-wide body
Rollei, Yashica, and Mamiya TLRs
In short, if it does not have a focusing mechanism that works by determining object distance by triangulation, the results from those cameras must be deleted. We should have simply two catagories - mechanical rangefinders and electronic rangefinders.
And since scanning and darkroom techniques can be applied to the unclean varieties of camera gear, we should delete any reference to those topics - unless you find a rangefinder enlarger.
This will make these forums pure and sanitized. It will be populated by only the worthy and will be so dull as to wonder why you would ever want to participate.
Holgas
Viewfinder folding cameras
Lomos and other plastic cameras
Widelux, Noblex, Horseman, Linholf panoramic cameras
Brooks Veriwide
Alpa
Viewcameras without rangefinders
Bessa L
Zeiss Icon super-wide body
Rollei, Yashica, and Mamiya TLRs
In short, if it does not have a focusing mechanism that works by determining object distance by triangulation, the results from those cameras must be deleted. We should have simply two catagories - mechanical rangefinders and electronic rangefinders.
And since scanning and darkroom techniques can be applied to the unclean varieties of camera gear, we should delete any reference to those topics - unless you find a rangefinder enlarger.
This will make these forums pure and sanitized. It will be populated by only the worthy and will be so dull as to wonder why you would ever want to participate.