Travelling - What to do.

[RML]

That's exactly what I meant as well. There aren't any adapters for 21mm LTM lenses that will bring up 21mm frame lines. You can use any other adapter (for the 28mm for instance) without any problem, but you'll only get the frame lines that the adapter was designer for (28/90, 50/75 or 35/135).

I use the 28/90 adapter for my CV 25/4 lens. The 28mm frame lines cover quite nearly the 25mm FOV so I can use the viewfinder of my M2, but mostly I use the add-on viewfinder that came with the CV 25/4.

 

[Dath]

So, any adapter works, it's just a matter of framelines.. Okay.

So, if I get a 21mm, and use one of the seperate rangefinders they sell with framelines, it'll all be sweet and peachy?

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=288045&is=REG

 

[RML]

Yes. 🙂

 

[Dath]

Okay..

21mm, 35 and 90 covering landscapes, street and portraits...

No other suggestions? Or advice?
(And thankyou for all the advice shared/given so far)

 

[Nikon Bob]

Dath

You can get a screw to M adaptor that will let you mount the CV 21 on the R2 body. Depending on what adaptor ring you choose it will bring up various frame lines in the viewfinder but NOT for 21mm. That is why the 21mm comes with the seperate viewfinder that sits in the flash shoe. You use the seperate finder to frame the picture and the cameras viewfinder to focus only if that is necessary. The 21mm has so much DOF that you can set Hyperfocal and just frame and shoot. This might help http://www.cameraquest.com/adaptltm.htm . Hope this helps.

Bob

I see that I am a little slow on typing.

 

[Dath]

Thanks...

I just didn't realize that they affect the framelines..

I don't see many portrait shots from rangefinders..

Do the 75mm/90mm lenses perform as well as the wide angles on a rangefinder?

 

[rover]

Both the 75 and 90 are excellent lenes and perform well. As the maginification of the finder doesn't change when you change lenses, you will see that the view throught the viewfinder is always the same, the framelines for the longer lenses are just tighter to show the image captured by the lens. This is one of the advantages of a RF camera, you can see what is happening outside the frame of the picture and compose accordingly, or follow a moving target and anticipate better when it will be in the right place for your picture.

 

[spetsnaz]

I just like my R2 ( I went to play with M6 again today at my local shop, just to make sure I don't want to have one, and it is ! ) R3 should be great but I still don't know much about it. I use my 21/4 a lot for street shooting, 35/1.7 for indoor and low light situation. For me, 35mm is like a "standard/multi purpose" lens for any shot that not need too wide to cover. I'm also looking for 90/3.5 that I would use it for potrait shot plus another 75/2.5 if I could afford one more !

PoP

 

[Doug]

Thanks...
I just didn't realize that they affect the framelines..

Hi Dath, and I'll add my welcome too! One bit of clarification on the adaptors and framelines... Leica bodies and other M-mount bodies from Konica and the new Zeiss Ikon have their viewfinder framelines automatically selected when the lens is mounted. Of course this is limited to those framelines supplied in the viewfinder, and this will vary among different models.

When a screw-mount lens is used, one having a focal length matching a frameline in your camera body, then it's most convenient to choose one of the three screw-to-bayonet adaptors that will bring up the appropriate framelines. There's no other difference in the adpaptors.

Lenses outside the range of viewfinder framelines will need their own separate accessory viewfinder. Then you use the camera's rangefinder for focus, and switch to the external viewfinder for framing.

You'll note above I didn't include the Voigtlander Bessa models among the cameras, because these bodies have manual switching of the viewfinder framelines, not automatic. There's a switch lever on the top of the camera. So for Bessa R2/R2a/R3a it doesn't really matter which of the three adaptors you get, as they can't affect the framelines. 🙂

 

[spetsnaz]

Exactly like Doug said ! And ( to me ) that's another "plus" from Bessa over M.

Regards,
PoP

 

[Doug]

I agree, PoP, that the convenience is not always welcome! One example that comes to mind is with 40mm lenses, which usually trigger the 50mm framelines rather than the more useful 35mm framelines. Bodies with 40mm framelines substitute 40 for the usual 50.

This is how my Minolta CLE does it, also substituting 28 for 35mm... not sure what the 40/50/90 Leica CL did.

And except the R3a, with its manual frameline switch for 40, 50, and 90mm. Avoids the whole issue, really.

Another way to avoid some of the discrepancies is by getting screw-mount lenses and putting the "wrong" adaptor on it. For instance, if I got a 28mm Summicron (yum!) for my CLE, it would bring up the 90mm framelines, pretty useless. (On the appropriate Leicas, it would show both 28 and 90mm frames). So for my 28mm Skopar, I fitted the 35/135 adaptor, which displays the CLE's 28mm framelines that I want!

 

[Huck Finn]

Dath, Stephen Gandy at Cameraquest sells a generic adapter for $33. It doesn't bring up any framelines on any camnera - perfect for a Bessa camera on which you select the framelines manually anyway. It'll save you $20-$30 per lens.