Trespassing, justified or not?

[Roger Hicks]

Thanks for the explanation, Fred. I'd forgotten about easements.

I hafta to say this trespass thing interests me primarily because I get annoyed when someone expects to be excused of a crime, however minor, simply because he believes the law is wrong. That's even more the case when I support the behavior.

But surely, Bill, the point that it isn't a crime in most of the world may suggest that it shouldn't be a crime elsewhere. Otherwise you end up supporting Chinese or Burmese authoritarianism, where the law is written to criminalize anything that anyone in power finds even slightly inconvenient.

Cheers,

R.

 

[gm13]

wgerrard:
It is naive in the extreme to imagine that laws would be unnecessary if only people weren't so "ethically deficient".

I'm really not that naive.

wgerrard:
I don't see the difference.

I understand that. Our neurons fire along different pathways, and I'm ok with it.


now.... to find out if I got lucky w/ a roll of Tri X.
over and out...

 

[Daneinbalto]

Freedom to Roam

Freedom to Roam

The "Freedom to Roam" in Norway is not an example of "prescriptive rights" (i.e., an easement on a particular piece of land obtained through long use), but a general - now statutory - right.

While the concept may go back to the Viking ages, the incorporation into written law is a 20th century phenomenon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

Interestingly, the freedom to roam is much more limited in Denmark than in the remainder of the Nordic countries.

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allemandsretten

 

[hudthehum]

Maybe somebody in one of the below threads has already commented, but I didn't see it. If you have nothing interesting to do, like actually taking photos, read the two threads below, and especially where the same people have commented in both threads.

 

[Ezzie]

To the Aussies out there, correct me if I'm wrong. The land of Oz has a rather different approach. The law book down under is decidely thinner than in most other comparible societies. They put great importance in personal responsibility, It is expected that each and every one make up for their mistakes. I rather like the idea, for every hole in the in the judicial system you try to plug, you create at least another two, smaller holes. The more it is expected the laws of a country are to form the guidelines of normal behaviour, the less responsibility is placed on the individual. Bad idea.

 

[Al Patterson]

I don't know if anyone heard of this bizarre case in the US, where a woman who was walking through someone else's property called the police and accused him of being deliberately naked.

http://www.sodahead.com/living/man-...g-coffee-nude-is-he-innocent/question-691627/

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/101909_man_caught_making_coffee_naked_faces_charges

http://www.usforacle.com/man-should-not-be-punished-for-nudity-in-his-home-1.2046404

Yeah, I had a few laughs over that one. Maybe he should have charged the voyeurs with trespassing.

 

[gurkenprinz]

I will happily admit to jumping a fence yesterday. Went into an old, long abandoned factory and met some very nice graffiti artists there. Nobody was harmed by my unlawful actions - I even waved at some people that watched me jump the fence ;-)

By the looks of it, graffiti artists must have been going there for at least 10 years - completely unharmed! Is this trespassing - or is it maybe something completely different: a place for art?

 

[skibeerr]

Under Belgian law a person entering a private house thrue a door wich is not locked is not comitting a crime.
A friend, who is the Belgian equivalent of an asistant DA, has had problems prosecuting burglars who where cought in houses with unlocked doors, "just came in to see if anyone was home".