TriX in Rodinal for first time

[lZr]

My first plunge into Rodinal after reading about in the forum

Trix @250 went to my provincial downtown market
I poured 8 ml Rodinal in 400 ml water for 1+50 at 20 C and after 14 min I dumped the soup. It was near black, or some dark purple colored. The negative was good seen naked eye. Let me show some examples from 42 I did on my Bessa R / CV 35/2.5

Some levels and/or curves applied, but no sharpenning at all.

The negative was wet. I saw the vapors on the scanner glass after scanning. Epson 4990

 

[lZr]

3 more examples comming. Let me know what can more be done

 

[lZr]

This one better seen on dark background

 

[ChrisN]

In the second shot, is it a bit under-exposed? On my screen there is no detail at all in the woman's coat, just solid black. If you look closely at the negative, is there some detail there that the scan has not picked up?

 

[lZr]

There was no true black in the frame, so I set the black level in Levels from the nearest as possible black. In the original there are details on woman's coat

 

[ChrisN]

Ah, ok. Can you adjust the scanner for more gain?

I'd say they look pretty good, perhaps a little more contrast than some people like, but that's a personal thing. I'm not familiar with Rodinal at all - does it normally give contrasty results?

 

[titrisol]

excellent!
some curves/levels adjustments and yu got it
the graininess of trix is wonderful and the gradation you had is very good
it is plenty sharp isn;t it?

now I wonder.... for so much light wouldn;t it be plus-x/fp4 enough?

ChrisN Rodinal can give contrasty results, as well and non contrasty results depending on how you use it.
check the unblinkingeye page for an article called appreciating rodinal

Other notes: colored rodinal after developing is quite normal, from green/blu with foma, to purplish with tmaxes. It is the antihalation dye that rodinal very efficiently takes out
Rodinal is quite good for many things, but scanning does not do justice to it. Sharpness is there but grain is exaggerated by electronic/digital artifacts
My suggestion is to agitating less with Rod 1+50 or 1+100 is better since it allows for longer tonal range by developing the shadows and preventing contrast bloooming.

Now, people are buying Rodinal after it was maligned for decades.... that is interesting 😉

 

[MCTuomey]

i can't help because i'm close behind you. my first 500 ml of Rodinal is sitting next to my HC-110, awaiting some film. same interest generated on these fora.

i'd like to follow the thread, though.

What agitation did you use, by the way?

 

[Samsam]

Thank you for posting your first experience with rodinal. The tonal range seems really good. I bought 2 x 500ml bottles of rodinal but never i've never tried to develop tri-x rolls yet. Would you say that you like Rodinal better than HC 110/D76 ?

 

[lZr]

Everyone know to use Rodinal with slow speed films, but I wanted this combo, because I like TriX. Usually I dev. it in HC-110 dil H or B, but I think now, Rodinal gives me finner grain and wider tonality (I see that in PS Levels Histogram)
I agitated slow for the first 30 sec and after that two inversions every minute.

I have 2 reels Jobo tank.

I am back home now, and soon will post more samples.

 

[naruto]

very nice IZr. I have been using the same combo for a while now, and very happy with it.

I usually do a pre-wash with water before pouring in the Rodinal. The green colour dye that comes off surprised/shocked me the first time. Now, I look forward to seeing that wonderful shade of green. 🙂

 

[charjohncarter]

You asked about slower speed films. I just (yesterday) developed Tmax100 in Rodinal 1+100, semi-stand development: 30 seconds agitation, then one each minute for 5 minutes 3 inversions, 20minutes stand 3 inversions, another 20 3 inversions, another15 minutes and dump, purple, 68f (20c). The negatives were a little overdeveloped and the ones that were the best were in subdued light.

Late afternoon, almost dusk.

and:

at church.

 

[lZr]

Gorgeous charjohncarter. My Iso 400 is near same grain. The best is for the standing driver. I like the sky

 

[lZr]

If I do 1:100 I need only 5 ml in 500 ml for 2 rolls. Rodinal can't be stored diluted. Agfa is not recomending less than 10 ml, but I think it can be done. Am I right?

Chris - The woman's coat is visible now. Do you read the number?

naruto - Is prewashing mandatory? What is the gain? How much time to wash and agitate?

 

[Murray Kelly]

Amazing how a 100 yo developer is still grabbing attention.
What goes round comes around?
Great stuff!

Murray

 

[charjohncarter]

IZr, thanks, I don't know what the minimum out of bottle amount is required for two rolls. Maybe it is in the tech sheet. I'll look. I do like Rodinal, but for me HC-110h is the one I choose. If I get a little more use to Rodinal maybe this will shift.

 

[lZr]

My question was badly phrased.

Rumoring on the 'net about 10 ml as requiered minimum for Rodinal. This is like the Kodak's minimum for HC-110 as you know.

Can you tell me how you diluted your 1:100?

After Rodinal, I will switch to Diafine for some time.

 

[LeicaM3]

If I do 1:100 I need only 5 ml in 500 ml for 2 rolls. Rodinal can't be stored diluted. Agfa is not recomending less than 10 ml, but I think it can be done. Am I right?

Chris - The woman's coat is visible now. Do you read the number?

naruto - Is prewashing mandatory? What is the gain? How much time to wash and agitate?

lZr,

have been using Rodinal since the late 70s.
No, there is no minimum amount, although you are correct that Agfa is recommending 10mls. I mostly use 5 ml in 500 ml for 120 or 2 35 rolls.

• I don't prewash.
• 1 hour at 20C.
• Agitate for 15 seconds in the beginning and for another 15 seconds (3 slow inversions) at 30 minutes. Dump at 60 minutes.

There are a lot good threads on APUG on Rodinal and stand development - check 'em out.

 

[LeicaM3]

You asked about slower speed films. I just (yesterday) developed Tmax100 in Rodinal 1+100, semi-stand development: 30 seconds agitation, then one each minute for 5 minutes 3 inversions, 20minutes stand 3 inversions, another 20 3 inversions, another15 minutes and dump, purple, 68f (20c). The negatives were a little overdeveloped and the ones that were the best were in subdued light.

John,
that is a LOT of agitation for semi-stand or stand.
try 3 slow inversions at the beginning and another at 30 minutes, dump at 60 minutes.

Let me know how it works or better, post some pics.

 

[pvenables]

Titrisol said scanning doesn't do Rodinal justice. It depends on the film used. Acros 100 at a 1:50 dilution is beautiful and grain free at say 10 x 8, and Delta 100 isn't far behind. I use a reasonably-priced Nikon Coolscan V.

Try it !.

Paul