Sid836
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I am being offered a few samigon steel reels. Would it be possible to use them in my paterson tank?
Trouble loading Paterson Universal 3 Reel
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rjschell
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Monz-
The reels are not adjustable, but are also available in 120.
You need a stainless steel tank (Kinderman, Nikkor, Adorama,etc.).
The reels are not adjustable, but are also available in 120.
You need a stainless steel tank (Kinderman, Nikkor, Adorama,etc.).
Monz
Monz
Thank you.
Is it possible to load two rolls of 120 film on one reel? This is just about possible with the Jobo reel after some practice.
newtorf
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Depends on the reels you have. There are 120 reels and 220 reels. I suppose with 220 reels it is possible, but I have never tried it.
Monz
Monz
rjschell
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Monz-
False economy. I wouldn't chance 2 rolls on 1 reel. Buy a taller tank & another reel or 2. Why risk losing your hard work & images? Besides, you might be taxing the capacity of your developer. Quality & consistency work hand in hand.
False economy. I wouldn't chance 2 rolls on 1 reel. Buy a taller tank & another reel or 2. Why risk losing your hard work & images? Besides, you might be taxing the capacity of your developer. Quality & consistency work hand in hand.
zauhar
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Samigon reels are much easier to load, they are available from B & H.
One problem that I didn't see mentioned above - if the film curls up a little, it may go under the point where the film first enters the reel when it makes the first pass around the reel. If the film is thin, it may be able to 'double up', two layers of film going around in the same slot.
To prevent that, keep your thumb under the film at the point where it is being taken up by the reel, and wait until you feel the leader coming around the first time - make sure it does not go under the film being pulled into the reel.
Randy
One problem that I didn't see mentioned above - if the film curls up a little, it may go under the point where the film first enters the reel when it makes the first pass around the reel. If the film is thin, it may be able to 'double up', two layers of film going around in the same slot.
To prevent that, keep your thumb under the film at the point where it is being taken up by the reel, and wait until you feel the leader coming around the first time - make sure it does not go under the film being pulled into the reel.
Randy
kxl
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YUP... I continue to use Patterson plastic reels, but I do have extra reels to make sure I only use the ones that are bone dry.
Monz
Monz
Thank you.
Very sensible advice 🙂
But sometimes I feel lazy!
With Jobo plastic reels I have managed to load two 120 rolls on the same reel. They have a red clip on the side of the reel which you are supposed to engage after inserting the first roll of film to the hilt. The clip is supposed to prevent overlap when the second reel is loaded. Over the years, I have managed to get away with it on most occasions but have had overlaps twice, spoiling a couple of frames on each occasion. I have not had a problem with exhausting the developer (Rodinal or XTol).
biomed
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I have used many types of reels and found the stainless steel easiest to load after some practice. The Paterson reels work well at times. It was the jamming issues I ran into with the plastic reels that made me eventually choose the metal ones. Kindermann made a loader for metal reels that guided the film onto the reel with just the right amount of crosswise curve. Here is a photo -
The reel slips onto the shaft and the film goes through the guide emulsion side down. I used one of these for a while then found doing it by hand was quicker. Metal reels with a clip of some sort on the hub to secure the end of the film usually are the easiest to use. After a lot of experience reels without the clip work just as well. As with plastic reels, metal reels need to be clean and dry before use. I used to practice with a strip of film until I could load the film onto the reel with my eyes closed. I haven't developed film for some time now. I don't know if I could load film onto a reel as easily as I once could.
Mike
The reel slips onto the shaft and the film goes through the guide emulsion side down. I used one of these for a while then found doing it by hand was quicker. Metal reels with a clip of some sort on the hub to secure the end of the film usually are the easiest to use. After a lot of experience reels without the clip work just as well. As with plastic reels, metal reels need to be clean and dry before use. I used to practice with a strip of film until I could load the film onto the reel with my eyes closed. I haven't developed film for some time now. I don't know if I could load film onto a reel as easily as I once could.
Mike
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