TTartisan 50mm f2 $70 and 35mm f2 APO/ASPH less than $500
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boojum
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"Quality is like oats. If you want clean, fresh oats you must pay a fair price. However, if you can be satisfied with the oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."
Duofold RF
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The material, optical elements polishing, labor…… et al. at least it is impossible to make one in EU or US, even has been through the horse or donkey
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
35 is just ugly, huge and heavy.
Nitroplait
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A philanthropic company owner who believes that everyone, regardless of economic capability, has the right to own a great lens?
Or
Poor work conditions and lack of regard for environmental matters?
Which is more likely?
raydm6
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Loss leader pricing strategy perhaps?
Dogman
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Maybe lacking in the beauty department, TTA makes some pretty sweet lenses. I'm very fond of their 35/1.4 and 23/1.4 for Fuji. Can't complain about the price either.
F
former member
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Tight tolerances are expensive. The Chinese lenses make up for loose tolerances by having a user adjustable Cam for the RF.
newst
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True, but the 2/50 lens is unique for TTA, a full-frame lens that isn't designed for a Leica M camera. Mirrorless cameras only so no rangefinder mechanism required.
F
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The 50mm F2 does not require the tight tolerance of a lens made for a rangefinder camera. Lenses for mirrorless cameras and SLR's will have greater deviation in focal length. The Nikon AF-D 50mm F1.8 was under $100.
newst
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Exactly. I have been waiting for TTA to release a full-frame mirrorless lens. Their rangefinder lenses are fine, I guess, but all of my rangefinder cameras are LTM. Their rangefinder mechanism, regardless of tolerances, is useless for me. So a cheap, useable, full-frame E Mount lens that I can pop on the A7 when I don't want to put more expensive lenses into service is welcome.
Duofold RF
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The Nikon lens is made of mostly plastic parts, but. The TTartisan seems made of metal.
F
former member
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Metal is not expensive to work with- especially with modern CNC machines. CAD/CAM designs that go directly to manufacturing.
Polycarbonates require molds to be made up, higher non-recurring cost.
hap
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Nothing really wrong with this lens
Archlich
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There is this thing called the economies of scales. Many of the machinery, parts and even designs had been pre-streamlined by suppliers and are available off the shelf. I've always said it's the ridiculously enormous supply chain in/around Shenzhen (where majority of the Chinese photographic lens makers are based) that ultimately brought the price down.
People seem to have forgot how standardization, factories and industries work.
boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
Price and value are commanded by more than economies of scale. It is part but there are lots of other factors, the primary one here of interest to us is quality. How much quality can you buy for US$70? A cheap price means a cheap product. TINSTAAFL
Duofold RF
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Good point, how about the so called “Leica replica” lenses? The $70 cost lens sell for $1200 and the rest is profited from Leica name?
newst
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Let's not drag out the straw men. The $70 lens doesn't even pretend to be a "Leica Replica". It is no more than, nor is it represented to be anything but, a full-frame version of the manual focus APS-C & Micro 4/3 lenses that TTA has been selling, world-wide, for years.
https://petapixel.com/2022/07/15/ttartisans-new-50mm-f-2-full-frame-lens-costs-only-69/
F
former member
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I like the user-adjustable cam in the 7artisans lenses, allows for fine tuning for F-Stop optimization and for shift when using deep yellow/orange filters. I bought two 50/1.1 7artisans lenses as they are closely related to the Zunow 5cm F1.1. Picked up the 75/1.25- once tuned to my M9, no problem hitting the focus using a 1.25x finder. The Chinese are using modern manufacturing equipment suitable for a quick cycle from design to manufacturing. CNC equipment reduces cost of the mechanical parts. Manual adjustment and testing can be held to a minimum with features such as the adjustable RF cam.
And they do not have to worry about a shortage of electronic components to produce these all-manual lenses.
And they do not have to worry about a shortage of electronic components to produce these all-manual lenses.
zuiko85
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Bought their 50 f1.2 because I never owned a f1.2, I’m 73 on fixed income, and for a hundred dollars it was within my income demographic. Also have that 10mm f8 Pergear body cap lens because I could get it in my m4:3 mount and Pergear had it on sale for $45. It is a fine little door hole peeper and the widest lens in my kit.
If you can’t get what you like…like what you get.
If you can’t get what you like…like what you get.
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