paulfish4570
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martinsmith99
Established
What scanner and holder have you got Paul?
I have an Epson v500. Standard holder is ok, nothing special.
I have an Epson v500. Standard holder is ok, nothing special.
paulfish4570
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epson 4490, stock neg holder. when i have the cash, i'm ordering a 120 betterscanning holder with glass. i already have the bs 35mm glass that works very well with the stock 35mm holder.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
I'm looking at a screen so I may be missing the point but what don't you like about these scans?
I used a V 4490 with the stock holders and I see you do also. Is the scanning plane of the scanner the issue?
I used a V 4490 with the stock holders and I see you do also. Is the scanning plane of the scanner the issue?
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Paul, here's an HP5+ shot with an old TLR and scanned on a 4490 using the OEM holders...

late night laundromat by jannx, on Flickr

late night laundromat by jannx, on Flickr
paulfish4570
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jan, i'd just like to know i've got the negs flat as possible because i'm going digital for printing. the bs 35mm glass helped hugely in this regard, and i am told by people who use them, the bs 120 holder/glass combo is excellent ...
jan normandale
Film is the other way
jan, i'd just like to know i've got the negs flat as possible because i'm going digital for printing. the bs 35mm glass helped hugely in this regard, and i am told by people who use them, the bs 120 holder/glass combo is excellent ...
Okay, now I understand.. most of the film I use is pretty flat. I shoot a lot of HP5+, TriX, and Neopan all seem to be very flat films after being stored in sleeves. Perhaps that removes the issue of 'curly' film. I have used film that has substantial concave curvature to it like the Chinese films Shanghai and Lucky. However I don't care about the scan quality because these films are used in a Holga and the quality of the scan is not as important.
I've a better scanning holder for 120 and I don't think it's as critical as one for 135. The other issue is flat bed scanners like we both have are not as capable as dedicated scanners like a Konica Minolta or Nikon. I usually go to a pro lab for scans for large prints and have the scan burned to a disc and also printed. I find for 'commercial' or pro style images and printing it's worth the extra. For friends who want prints I just use my flat bed... unless they want to pay ;D
Good luck which ever way you decide.
paulfish4570
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thank you, sir.
robklurfield
eclipse
paul, that rope shot is gorgeous.
paulfish4570
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thank you, rob. i had shot it several times with 35mm. i liked those shots fine but the square seems to fit much better. the square is very demanding on composition. i find more squares hidden inside my 3:2 frames than i find proper square compositions from the git-go. i need to shoot more 120. got some film yesterday ...
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
I commented on the rope shot elsewhere, more or less to the effect that it sings. Both composition, but also texture, definition and tonal gradation. You'd have a hard time replicating the technical qualitites in 35mm. Nice work Paul.
paulfish4570
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thank you, Ezzie.
oftheherd
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I really like the rope shot.
Those old folders can do pretty good.
Those old folders can do pretty good.
paulfish4570
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thank you, of ...
jan normandale
Film is the other way
.... i need to shoot more 120. got some film yesterday ...
You can never go wrong shooting 120 over 135 for image quality... so jump on the train I don't think you'll regret it.
FWIW: I still shoot 135 but not like I used to. Looking forward to the results.
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