Update on The Rangefinder Book

Roger Hicks said:
Reply from GMC: Thanks for your email and apologies for the delay in responding. I have discussed this with our Marketing dept and we feel that this would be too niche to justify the expense required to produce a second edition. I am sure it would be a popular title but the potential market probably isn't large enough.

So it's back to the e-book.

Cheers,

R.
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Dear Roger,

We've seen people launch their book here in pre-sale so the printer would be sure a given number of copies would get sold. Vicky's excellent book on Milton Keynes (thread here: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103281) comes to mind.

Is this an option with your printer at all? Seems quite a few people are interested in a new edition!?
 
Presumably the publisher has some minimum number in mind that would make it worthwhile doing?
Would they (or you) consider some sort of pre-order system as a way of showing good faith interest?
Rob
 
You don't need a p ublisher, exactly. You need a system that makes a book, which is different. To tell the truth, the Amazon e-books for Kindle are changing/have changed the industry. There is also Books on Demand -- where the book is downloaded at a bookstore and printed and bound in front of you -- giant machines about the size of two fooz-ball talbles end to end with a refrigerator laid on top of them. For the hard copy buffs. Unfortunately, though, Roger, this exhausts my knowledge on these topics which is entirely general. I've only read about the success stories -- I don't know anyone who's done it. I am a writer myself and friends with many writers and people in the publishing industry... but these are the new guys in town. Intro can be found here, I think: http://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520 -- interestingly enough they have their on-demand book operation as well as the better known Kindle e-book operation.
 
Great news, Roger. I'd buy the new edition in an instant. Nothing can replace "proper" books for me, even though I'm running out of space! I hope it all works out. Cheers...TW
 
Roger Hicks said:
Reply from GMC: Thanks for your email and apologies for the delay in responding. I have discussed this with our Marketing dept and we feel that this would be too niche to justify the expense required to produce a second edition. I am sure it would be a popular title but the potential market probably isn't large enough.

So it's back to the e-book.

Cheers,

R.
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A PDF file will work on just about all tablets from kindle to iPad as u are already aware. Just as an FYI though, amazon has a free kindle book on how to creatE and upload a kindle book.. Anyway here is link to their direct publishing info

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Direct-Publishing/e/B008241EAQ/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1

Cheers
Gary
 
It there a release date set?

It there a release date set?

Great to here about the new edition....what is the release date and will there be a different ISBN number? Please advise. Thanks🙂

Roger Hicks said:
I've already done quite a bit for a new edition in PDF format but to my surprise the publishers of the original book expressed an interest in a new print edition, so I'm currently waiting for their response. That's GMC/Guild of Master Craftsmen in Lewes.

Just thought people might like to know the reasons for the delay, i.e. that it's not just down to me being my usual laggardly self.

Cheers,

R.
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sparrow6224 said:
There is also Books on Demand -- where the book is downloaded at a bookstore and printed and bound in front of you -- giant machines about the size of two fooz-ball talbles end to end with a refrigerator laid on top of them.
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Here in rural Vermont my local bookstore has one of these machines. A more compact version, about the size of a US refrigerator. Nice looking unit, enclosed in plexiglass so one can watch the process. I've not seen it run tho it has been there for over a year. I'd love a chance to give it a try.
 
For those that might like Roger Hick's (co-authored with his wife) other books; I really enjoy my copy of 'Perfect Exposure.' It my not be in print now, but it is really helpful. That one book improved my photography, which was starting from a low base, more than any book I've read. I still refer to it, last night I refreshed myself on something as I went shooting this morning.
 
A copy of the first edition has just found its way Down Under. I'll keep watching for whatever comes next.
 
Roger Hicks said:
Dear Vince,

In what form? All suggestions/advice gratefully received, from you and from others.

Cheers,

R.
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Dear Roger,

Amazon's susidiary CreateSpace offers publishing as well e-books as printed books. Blurb was already mentioned, but there are a couple of other print-on-demand publishers.

Greg

P.S. Although I already own the first edition I would not hesitate ordering The Rangefinder Book 2.0 ;-)
 
Hi Roger,

How many books do you plan to print and would be able to "Warehouse" them for future purchases? That will determine the path for you to approach. For me coming form the publishing world, I would much prefer a printed & bounded book over any PDF as a standalone product. For a traditional book printer the magic number is 10,000 as a volume printer.

Like what many suggested, a Print-on-Demand printer whom you will have to obtain samples OF Your book is the best route. Not just a sample of their work, but of your book. That will give you an idea of the quality and workmanship

Here is a list of some low cost printers that I recommend to friends who went the Print-on-Demand route. I would suggest e-mailing them firsthand with the request and discuss what your requirement would be on an on-going basis & if they would allow you to print in small batches. It would be more costly, but you would not have to lay out the monetary funds before any sales occurs.

Evan


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Roger Hicks said:
I've already done quite a bit for a new edition in PDF format but to my surprise the publishers of the original book expressed an interest in a new print edition, so I'm currently waiting for their response. That's GMC/Guild of Master Craftsmen in Lewes.

Just thought people might like to know the reasons for the delay, i.e. that it's not just down to me being my usual laggardly self.

Cheers,

R.
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sepiareverb said:
Here in rural Vermont my local bookstore has one of these machines. A more compact version, about the size of a US refrigerator. Nice looking unit, enclosed in plexiglass so one can watch the process. I've not seen it run tho it has been there for over a year. I'd love a chance to give it a try.
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I would love to see what they are using in Vermont to bring back to life short runs of books, perhaps they are using medium format indigo press with offline bindery...

Being a printer myself, I've seen a pickup in short on them and, softcover books and the technology is now available. So we acquired a Zeiss Ikon to cater this segment for Costa Rica!
 
RBruceCR said:
I would love to see what they are using in Vermont to bring back to life short runs of books, perhaps they are using medium format indigo press with offline bindery...

Being a printer myself, I've seen a pickup in short on them and, softcover books and the technology is now available. So we acquired a Zeiss Ikon to cater this segment for Costa Rica!
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I have a book getting printed tomorrow. Just text, but will be curious to see what this ends up like. It was sImple enough to do. Trade paperback binding.

I'll get a picture of the machine when I drop by to pick it up.
 
As I carry a Kindle, I would prefer to have both hard and soft copies.

The hard copy for my office, (OK, my third bedroom with no bed), and one for the road on the Kindle.

One of my students did a stellar job collecting public domain photographs (as newspapers fold, some donate their entire collection to public university libraries), researching and creating his book-- then took it to a printer, -- the numbers (cost) were fine, the pages were not slick glossy, but medium quality, the cover beautiful, photographs were good quality-- and it all worked out impressively.

I believe he said his cost was very low, -- I was impressed with his tenacity -- he supplied book stores personally, promoted his book, and though he did not become rich, he made some money, and the information is out there.

I would try to support what ever choice you make Roger, just thought I would toss my two cents in to the pot.

Regards, John
 
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