Urgent: 90/2 Or 75/1.4 !?

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usccharles

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went to the shop today. they already sold out of their 75/2! all they had was the one 75/1.4 remaining, so i put that on hold till tomorrow. but right as i was leaving, the guy showed me an almost mint 90/2 in silver. that big chunk of silver looked SO Good on my black M8! :D

i really want the 74/1.4, but the 90/2 is also very tempting!

i have both on hold until tomorrow (there is some other dude that wants the 90).

IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE DAY AND HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ONE OR THE OTHER, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU PIC? :confused:

both are almost identical in weight and size (FYI - i find both lenses fairly small and easy to use on the M8 contrary what i've heard in this forum. it maybe because i always lug my Nocti around and i've gotten used to big lenses).

THANK YOU! :D

if at the worst, i may sell off some of my 5D lenses and buy both...
 
Depends on what your style of photography is (portraits?, landscapes?) but personally, I'd go for the 75/1.4. This lens is one stop faster than the 90/2 which is a lot, specially when photographing in dim-light conditions. The 75/1.4 also has a real good reputation, sharp wide-open with very smooth bokeh.

Both are really excellent lenses, it all comes down to what you're most comfortable with.

Jim Bielecki
 
I'd go for the 75. FOV on a 90 is already pretty tight and it'll be even tighter on the M8. Like Mackinaw said that extra stop will be nice to have, especially considering the longer focal length, but, at 1.4, it'll be hard to focus.
 
Which are you more comfortable with? 75 and 90 are two reasonably different focal lengths, and picking one over the other based on price might not be the best idea for you.
You seemed to prefer the 75 even before visiting the shop, so I would suggest to stay with your predispositions, especially if you wish the 90 only because "the big glass looks fancy."
90mm is on the long end of any RF outfit, especially for a camera like the M8. With the small magnification viewfinder and lens crop, you might not be getting the best focusing possible relative to a shorter lens.
Why not wait for the 75 f/2 to restock? As I'm sure you know, it's scores sharper than the 'lux, and much smaller.
 
I understand that lenses on the M8 are 1.3 times their 35 mm focal length. The 75/1.4 should make a fine, fast portrait and general-use lens.
 
ok so now that i think about it. the silver 90/2 is the older one. its not the new APO ASPH 90/2. i think its non-APO, whatever tha means.

no wonder the price on it was so good. should this weigh into the decision on whether or not to buy this lens? is there a big performance difference between the old and the new?

i wont say the price, but i was going to buy both since they were both priced very reasonable. (the 90/2 pretty much mint and cheap, but now understanding that its also the previous generation, and the 75/1.4 has sign of wear on the body, but glass and mechanics are clean. very good price also)

what does APO stand for anyway?
thanks
 
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Maybe I'm not the best person to answer the last statement, but...


If you genuinely are not knowledgeable about the lens you plan on buying, please for your sake do not buy the lens.
If you, as described, are wishing to buy the lens because it was "priced very reasonable," please rethink your intentions. Without an informed decision, and instead a hasty choice, you just might find yourself in an unenviable situation (both financially and mentally).

Is there any reason for you to not share prices? "Very reasonable" is extremely vague, especially over borders and with exchange rates. This vagueness is further increased when your apparent knowledge concerning Leica is acknowledged. I do not believe anybody will be able to give beneficial advice without knowing prices.

BTW, APO is short for Apochromatic. See here.

Proper capitalization does not hurt us, either.
 
usccharles said:
ok so now that i think about it. the silver 90/2 is the older one. its not the new APO ASPH 90/2. i think its non-APO, whatever tha means.

no wonder the price on it was so good. should this weigh into the decision on whether or not to buy this lens? is there a big performance difference between the old and the new?

i wont say the price, but i was going to buy both since they were both priced very reasonable. (the 90/2 pretty much mint and cheap, but now understanding that its also the previous generation, and the 75/1.4 has sign of wear on the body, but glass and mechanics are clean. very good price also)

what does APO stand for anyway?
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I have both the 90 s , the last one before the APO and the new APO version as well as the 75 1.4 . I find the 90mm APO to be the best all around for travel, portraits etc. I find the 75 1.4 to be a very special lens which can be put to great use in informal portraits. I found that for walking around the 90mm APO is more versitle. This is not what I expected based on the focal lengths ...I used all three and they all perform well. E. Putts reviews match my experience but ultimately it will depend on the how you plan to use the lens..etc. This is very subjective....there are a good number of apo 90s around ..you can normally arrange for next day delivery......
 
erikhaugsby said:
Maybe I'm not the best person to answer the last statement, but...


If you genuinely are not knowledgeable about the lens you plan on buying, please for your sake do not buy the lens.
If you, as described, are wishing to buy the lens because it was "priced very reasonable," please rethink your intentions. Without an informed decision, and instead a hasty choice, you just might find yourself in an unenviable situation (both financially and mentally).

Is there any reason for you to not share prices? "Very reasonable" is extremely vague, especially over borders and with exchange rates. This vagueness is further increased when your apparent knowledge concerning Leica is acknowledged. I do not believe anybody will be able to give beneficial advice without knowing prices.

BTW, APO is short for Apochromatic. See here.

Proper capitalization does not hurt us, either.
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ok ok :p

i don't know much about lenses, I'M SORRY. i know how to use my camera and i like to take lots of pictures. but the technical aspect of lenses cameras, yada yada are beyond me, hence my rambling questions on this forum for help from all you angels! :angel:

i won't share the prices because i have a respect for my seller and some people her may possibly know who the seller is. they are good prices, trust me.

further further, i have been close with my dealer for a long time. if i have been cheated in pricing or material, they will refund me immediately. they are credit worthy people and we have mutual respect for each other.

i'm just nagging and trying to squeaze info out of all of you because i am antzy about tomorrow and thinking about what lens i'm going to choose.

what i care about is personally opinions about image quality of these lenses, not ASPH or APO or blah blah. is the 90/2 non APO non ASPH lens a good camera in your opinion? were they sharp where they needed to be sharp and smooth bokeh where they needed good bokeh or what not? just personal opinions. thats all. :) the 75/1.4 i've already researched enough to know i like the image it produces. the 90/2... i don't know.

THANKS :p
 
As I look through the posts you have made in the past, Charles, I can't help but notice that you have an acute surplus of finances and an acute shortage of images posted; as I look through your blog my initial impressions are confirmed, though this time there is an acute shortage of images not including your dog or your legs. edit. Thorough lookings through of your blog do reveal pictures not including your dog. There are a few quality images. However, these images are buried amongst many images that are overly similar, in that it appears you shoot bursts for quantity and hope for quality. Bokeh is overly prevalent, and in such a form that it appears there is a belief that bokeh makes a quality image. My opinion stands.

I ask you to reflect upon the reasons behind your acquisition of Leica equipment; do you feel that the acquisition of another multiple-thousand-dollar-lens to mount on your five-thousand-dollar-digital-M8 is the key to making high quality and unique images? Considering your current "portfolio," it is certainly my opinion that this logic is at great fault.

Is there a reason to your haste in acquiring one (or both) of the two lenses in question? Is this the first time you have honestly thought of expanding your collection beyond the 35 'lux ASPH and Noct. in your arsenal? If so, I honestly implore to you to recognize the effects of acquiring additional lenses and your rationale behind the acquisition.

I am done, maybe someone else will kindly assist you, Charles.
 
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erikhaugsby said:
As I look through the posts you have made in the past, Charles, I can't help but notice that you have an acute surplus of finances and an acute shortage of images posted; as I look through your blog my initial impressions are confirmed, though this time there is an acute shortage of images not including your dog or your legs.

I ask you to reflect upon the reasons behind your acquisition of Leica equipment; do you feel that the acquisition of another multiple-thousand-dollar-lens to mount on your five-thousand-dollar-digital-M8 is the key to making high quality and unique images? Considering your current "portfolio," it is certainly my opinion that this logic is at great fault.

Is there a reason to your haste in acquiring one (or both) of the two lenses in question? Is this the first time you have honestly thought of expanding your collection beyond the 35 'lux ASPH and Noct. in your arsenal? If so, I honestly implore to you to recognize the effects of acquiring additional lenses and your rationale behind the acquisition.
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who is this guy on my case of a sudden:confused: :bang:

i don't like to argue on forums and be in conflict with people. i will post this ONE reply and you may ramble on afterwards as much as you wish. it will not bother me. :)

i don't give a rats bunghole whether or not you like my pictures or not. i love my M8 and all my fun lenses and i love to take pictures whenever i can. i am not a professional (maybe you are, WHO CARES!), but a hobbiest (who apparrently cant spell and capitalize his letters) who loves to take pictures and loves to print and post them for his own pleasure. i'm happy you took to the time to have so much interest in me to go through my blog and search my threads. its makes me feel honored.

regarding my money that i spend on my hobby. I'm sorry that you have an issue with that. all i can offer you is, lets try not to judge people you don't know. i have money to spend on expensive lenses. but i also work 7 days a week, 80+ hours running my own private business, and if buying this lenses give me pleasure for the few hours of the free time i get to spend out by myself or with my dog, HEY IM ALL FOR IT! :angel:

FYI, i'm not spending any money on this transaction. i'm selling my M6TTL and 3 canon EF lenses that are catching dust. keeping the Hexar but selling those four. not spending any money. recycling my sunk cost :p

good day ;)
 
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usccharles said:
good day ;)
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And you the same.

I just hope that you try to understand the lenses that you buy, and for me understanding inherently takes time; a one day decision is rarely beneficial.
There have been many opinions given by others, hopefully one of them will allow you to choose properly for your situation.
 
I'm with nachkebia. Order the 75/2 and wait until it comes in. Especially since you already have the Noctilux for a fast, creamy lens. The 75/2 is unbelievably sharp, and for a tight portrait, you should be able to find enough light in any situation. Just move Grandma under the Christmas tree lights.
 
Charles,
Buy the lens you want. Others sometimes get a little pissy because they can't afford the equipment they want. Snide remarks are common here. I'd go with the 75 'lux. It'll be more expensive to buy later. 90's are common and if not the asph model it should be cheap anyway. If the lux does not suit you, it can be sold later on.
 
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Charles,
Buy the lens you want. Others sometimes get a little pissy because they can't afford the equipment they want.
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I second that.

75mm would be my option.
 
Charles unless you absoloutely need the lens by tomorrow, go and find yourself the new 75/2 cron. Image quality and size makes this lens very tough to beat. The M8 affords you the flexibiltiy of changing ISO's so the 75 summilux's extra speed isn't that important IMHO.

Also consider that with the crop factor on the M8 you won't need a 90 because the 75 will cover the same angle.

Oh and as far as pissy erik he's 18 and full of himself so we should cut him a little slack he'll figure it soon enough.;)


Sherm
 
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