Using A Goggle-fitted Lens without the Goggles

[dszpiro]

Hi,

I am still climbing the learning curve regarding Leica equipment and I appreciate the insights and knowledge of the experts in this forum.

I have an M3 and I also have a 35mm Summaron f/3.5 fitted with goggles. Of course, the goggles can be removed from the lens. Accordingly, I was wondering if that lens can be used without the goggles on an M2 or M6? In other words, are the goggles only necessary for use on the M3?

Thanks in advance,
Danny

 

[kiemchacsu]

I've heard that focusing cannot be used properly if goggle is removed.

 

[karlin]

Dont do it.
you will lose focus ability and enjoying seeing the 35 FL through the 50 frame lines

 

[davidnewtonguitars]

No, the 3.5 cm lens can't be used without goggles.
The 5cm dual-range Summicron with goggles can be used without goggles, but the close-focus is hampered.

 

[raid]

It coukd be used on a camera with LiveView such as M240.

 

[dszpiro]

Thanks, all, for your quick responses - much appreciated! Looks like I'd need a different 35mm lens if I pick-up another M-body.

Best,
Danny

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I was one who actually removed goggles from Summaron 35 3.5 to actually see what happens.
And what happens is, you can't just focus it without goggles. Mechanically.
Lens needs to be modified (well, more like vandalized).
Don't go this stupid. In classic Leica VF (M2-M4) framing 35 lens in 50 frames is the blessing. I enjoyed it on M4-2, it just the lens itself is nothing special...

 

[dszpiro]

I enjoyed it on M4-2, it just the lens itself is nothing special...

Thanks for your response.

If you mounted this successfully on an M4-P does that mean it would also work (with goggles) on an M6? I have heard the M6 described an an M4-P with a meter.

Thanks,
Danny

 

[Ronald M]

mount need modifying to bring up 35 mm lines if possible. Will be scale focus without eyes no mater how you use it.

Use as switch the eyes

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I don't know on which particular Leica M it will not fit.
Leica made not just two lenses with goggles and not only in fifties.