using hoods and filters

[msbarnes]

What is the best way to use hoods and filters on folders?

It seems that my super ikonta III accepts 29.5mm threaded filters or 32mm push ons? I haven't looked at the other folders but I'd expect them to be similar in this regard...

29.5mm threaded filters are difficult to find; I haven't looked for 32mm push-ons, but the drawback is that I wouldn't be able to use a hood.

Are there adapters that allow me to use hoods and filters of a different size?

 

[rjbuzzclick]

I use a push-on Series VI filter holder with a hood retaining ring on my folders.

 

[Ken Smith]

I haven't looked for 32mm push-ons, but the drawback is that I wouldn't be able to use a hood.

Why so? I have a 32mm slip-on hood and 32 mm slip-on filters for my Super Ikonta IV and Perkeo II. The filter slips on to the lens shroud and the hood slips on to the filter. I think normally the old 32mm slip-on filters are designed to accept a slip-on hood. I do know that I have a couple of Voightlander 32mm slip-on filters that will not accept my non-Voightlander 32mm slip-on hood, but they are made to work with a Voightlander hood. My Voightlander filters will not work on my SI IV because the metal slip on part is too thick. However, I have Zeiss, Walz, and Agfa 32mm slip-on filters, and a Walz hood and the hood works perfectly with those filters and my Perkeo and SI IV.

What I like about the Super Ikonta IV is that I can mount a 32mm slip-on filter, set the lens at infinity, and close up the camera without the filter binding during opening/closing.

You just need to watch Ebay for a 32mm hood/filter set - they frequently pop up as a kit in a leather case.



Ken

 

[Ken Smith]

Just to let you know - according to the SI III owner's manual, you camera accepts the same filter sizes as mine - 35.5mm screw in and 32mm slip-on. There are several Zeiss 35.5mm filters on Ebay at this time.

 

[msbarnes]

Thanks! I had no idea. I made a wrong assumption.

 

[barnwulf]

I have gotten several hoods and filters from an ebay seller Old Cam from UK. I have a Zeiss Super Ikonta III and IV. He ships quickly and has very fair prices with low shipping costs. His ebay store is:

www.ebay.com/sch/old_cam/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3984

I hope this helps. Jim

 

[graywolf]

I use a push-on Series VI filter holder with a hood retaining ring on my folders.

Series VI (6) is a bit big, I would suggest Series V (5). That said I have VI because I had them for my Crown Graphic.

For those who do not know the old Series filters used a adapter ring (usually push on), and a retaining ring, or lens shade to hold not threaded filters. The only problem with them is that it is almost impossible to find a working series Polarizer. For some reason they have all deteriorated over the years.

 

[UberSquid]

I have a really nice series VI polarizer that I got from ebay a couple years ago. I don't like using it because the only camera I have that is set up for series VI filters is a Richoflex Super TLR and it's a pain to get the polarizer in the right orientation. I see them come up often on ebay and junk shops and only a handful were shot. Maybe I've just been lucky?

 

[rjbuzzclick]

Series VI (6) is a bit big, I would suggest Series V (5). That said I have VI because I had them for my Crown Graphic.

It's a little big, but not too bad. I have a number of cameras that take Series VI (including a Speed Graphic) so it's nice to just have one main filter set to carry. Also, the Series V filters seem to be harder to find. I do have a Series V set by Bolsey, but the filters do not have a metal edge around them, so might be more prone to chipping in my clumsy hands.

Of course, with the Koni-Omega, I need a Series VI for the 90mm, a Series VII for the 60mm, and a Series VIII for the 180mm (sigh)...

 

[msbarnes]

I'm confused on how the series filters work. If I go the series filter/hood route then what exactly is required?

-I'd need an adapter, and a special hood?
-Does the adapter thread into the lens or does it push-on?
-Can I close my folder?

The 32mm push-on is attractive for the folding reasons and simplicity, but I'm interested in looking into alternatives.

 

[graywolf]

They made both push on and threded adapters. The advantage of the push on is you can easily use a square lens hood with them.

Some cameras will close with an adapter in place, my Graphic will actually close with a smallish lens hood in place, but most will not. That is another advantage of the push on type, easy to put on and off, although there are some cameras that will not take one due to having a slanted outer ring on the lens.

Series filters were, I think, and American thing. Most European cameras used push on metric sized hoods and filters, you could stack them because the front was reduced in size so the push on part of another filter would fit.

Some cameras actually had series sized threads on their lenses so you could just screw in a filter or a retaining ring.

In the end, the fitted filters won out. Probably because they could sell you a different set of filters for each lens you owned. Profit always seems to trump sensible.